Rep. Cooper: We may have to arrest Postmaster General

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    what funds was he withholding?

    i am gonna have to flag this as fake news unless you can provide me with a link to prove there were funds he was withholding
     
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    The new PMG is not there to improve the USPS.

    Trump wants him there to damage the capabilities of the USPS as part of his presidential campaign stragegy.

    And, HE has said so.

    If he were there to help the USPS, we would see a plan that includes multiple approaches to doing that.
     
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    sure he is

    no he didn’t...stop making things up.

    another lefty who’s post has to be flagged as fake news
     
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    They latest version of his presidential campaign's assault on the USPS is in his stated direction of blcoking USPS funding in order to prevent mail in voting.

    How did you manage to miss them all?

    https://apnews.com/14a2ceda724623604cc8d8e5ab9890ed

    "In an interview on Fox Business Network, Trump explicitly noted two funding provisions that Democrats are seeking in a relief package that has stalled on Capitol Hill. Without the additional money, he said, the Postal Service won’t have the resources to handle a flood of ballots from voters who are seeking to avoid polling places during the coronavirus pandemic."

    “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money,” Trump told host Maria Bartiromo. “That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting; they just can’t have it.”

    This is not the only case.

    And, this interview demonstrates that his approach to the USPS is driven by his election campaign.
     
  5. struth

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    so he blocked no funds because no new funds has been authorized?

    gotcha

    why didn’t you just say so?
     
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    This guy has been there a matter of days and he's not showing ANY move toward an honest appraisal of the issues facing the USPS, let alone creating or communicating a plan.

    What he has done is to take immediate action to make vote by mail harder, especially for those the president doesn't want to vote.
     
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    Its not the only case.

    And, the difference is irrelevant.

    The crime is that he's using the USPS as an arm of his campaign for officie.
     
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    the plan he is putting in place was submitted to Congress back in Feb.

    he has done nothing to make voting via the mail any harder. he in fact reissued the same letter to the states reminding folks to get their ballots back in timely
     
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    what other case?

    don’t most people use the post office as an arm of their campaigns?
     
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    In 2005 a Bipartisan Committee on Federal Election Reform headed by Former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker stated that absentee ballots are the largest source of election fraud. I don't recall Congress taking any action as a result. So voting by mail was effed up 15 years ago -- but now according to liberals Trump has effed up voting by mail.
     
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    Some people don't get it because they don't understand other people don't get it because they just don't want to.
    Lots of words. Still wrong.
    But lots of words
     
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    Yes - he admitted to the public that the USPS is in trouble.

    He admits that they are failing to deliver mail on time to such a degree that it risks our democracy!

    He suggests that the Trump assault on the USPS is working.

    Are you really going to try to claim that means all is well???
     
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    Oh, please. the PMSG is warning the US voters that the USPS can NOT handle the ballots.

    If it could, it wouldn't require states to figure out how to deal with the new, worse USPS.
     
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    a CEO could not be arrested for helping a company legally profit.

    he has the authority to arrest the postmaster general because the USPS is a commie enterprise.
     
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    OK, Ithink your major problem here is that it is up to the states to fix vote by mail security.

    Alll Trump has to do is to allow us to have a working USPS.

    You are right that lots of states had little security in their absentee ballot systems that every state has.

    What you miss is that today vote by mail security has advance hugely.

    A good number of states already vote by mail exclusively or almost exclusively.

    And, our system here in WA is highly secure.

    Trump is just flat out lying about lack of security in vote by mail.
     
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    You say it is up to the States. Then why does the Federal Government (per the Dem house) need to give the USPS 25 Billion?
     
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    1) it is in trouble
    2) who said that? our democracy is fine and the post office is still doing its job.
    3( what assault?
    4) no the post office needs some work and the trump admin has bee trying to help.

    It’s failed to pay its bills since 2012. Cleaning up the Obama/Biden trainwreak isn’t easy
     
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    You need to read my whole post.

    Vote by mail needs a working MAIL.

    That's why the Trump campaign for his reelection is assaulting our mail system.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    FALSE he said they were prepared just get them in on time. It's up to the state to set it's dealines accordingly.
     
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    The problem started in 2006 when the Democrat Congress passed legislation destroying the Postal Service economically. Now they accuse Trump of destroying the Postal Service economically. And well ... people believe them. No need to be confused by facts when the Dem publications tell them what to think.

    https://ips-dc.org/how-congress-manufactured-a-postal-crisis-and-how-to-fix-it/
     
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    He reaffirmed what everyone already knew the Postal Service is financially failing, he did not say they were meeting to duty to deliver the mail. And he is right and it is his job to get it on better financial footing like implementing the plans to eliminate unneeded capacity and shifting those resources to more profitable parcel post, you know the prescriptions for blue hair old ladies the Dems cry about. They are fully able to handle the vote by mail volume which if everyone votes by mail would only be a minuit increase.
     
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    So maybe you will explain why the Democrat Congress passed legislation destroying the USPS economically in 2006, i.e., requirement to prefund pensions 75 years in advance. Why do you blame Trump for what Pelosi did in 2006?
     
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    What private company awards employees lifetime retirement healthcare? Why don't postal workers do like everyone else and go on Medicare when they hit the certain age. The Postal Service and Union complain that no other company has to fund retiree healthcare cost out 75 years to insure it is there for the retirees leaving out the fact that private companies don't do that. Phase that out and shift those people into 401k's and Medicare.
     
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    Well, you say this, but you totally ignore that I've given evidence that your first 3 aren't true!!

    What kind of nonsense is THAT?

    Beyond that, who says how much money the USPS needs to make?

    How much does our military have to earn?

    How much does our transportation system have to earn?
     
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    It was a lame duck Republican Congress with bipartisan support that passed it on a voice voice in the House and unanimous consent in the Senate and a BAD piece of legislation. It was 50 years to cover the existing employees but then why do they get retire healthcare, they should go on Medicare and have 401k's instead of government pensions.
     
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