Repealing and replacing Obamacare: What kind of healthcare plan do you support?

Obama already socked us taxpayers with exorbitant costs under Obamacare. If Trump even slows the rate that's a win in my book.

 

You could click my sig link to start...otherwise, your just wasting your time, and mine.
Or you could compel the argument in your favor.

 

Thought about what, the Odumbo along with all those partisan hacks that were supposedly against him managed to spend on average $1 trillion more per year than they took in. But not to worry, at only a half point for interest our great, great, great, great grandchildren will only have to work 9 months of their year to pay off our benefits. All so that those that have more than they can ever use in their grandchildren's lifetimes can have even more. But not to fret as things too overloaded have a tendency to collapse. The only question remaining is the point at which all those added props will fail allowing the inevitable.

 

First of all the ACA already slowed the rate....if you think what your getting charged now is bad....you've been influenced by the media.

Granted I got VA..so I'm good, but seriously...how does none see a win win from employers not having the burden of providing healthcare to employees, employee's not having 1/3rd of their check going into an employee health program, and then all the people etc, etc, with healthcare bills with no intention of ever repaying back.

What is the argument again for not wanting single payer for America?
Single payer is not socialized medicine. It's not socialized anything.

 

Really, then how do you explain that the federal administrative regulations has 51 titles? Just one, Title 26, the Internal Revenue regulations covers 20 volumes just by itself

 

I don't respond to inline quotes. The method is a dishonest way of taking quotes out of context.

 

Did you read the first sentence of my statement?

ALL of the insurers relocate to a state where it is all but impossible to sue.

So, if ALL of the insurers move, where do you go?

 

You also have the choice to obey laws or not obey, stay poor or make money,...wtf is your point?

People getting sick,injured or maimed, is not something that should be placed on paying policy holders for the burden..It is selfish not to be covered.
you have a right to be selfish though...but it is not a right to place that burden on paying individuals for you being so....not being covered places the burden on someone else.

 

HEY AL, wanna come back in from left field?

The quote to which you're responding has nothing to do with the size or extent of the federal administrative regulations. It was a comment on the nature of the population in Congress and the White House.

Do I need to get Foghorn Leghorn in here?

 

The expense of healthcare is why both parties are now supporting a national healthcare system. Because as is, no one can afford paying out of pocket, except the super wealthy. You are correct though, we need to make other changes to reduce the cost of healthcare in the US. I would also suggest we lighten up on our restrictions on medicines coming in from foreign countries.

I definitely wouldn't rule it out of the realm of possibility that he would say one thing and then do another. Many presidents have done that.. heck, at this point in his presidency Obama was still against the insurance mandate. We've heard repeatedly from Trump that there will be a replacement plan, and it will protect people with preexisting conditions. We'll see what he delivers

 

That I'm not forced to buy a license, I only have to have one if I chose to operate a vehicle on a public roadway. The ACA mandate requires me to purchase a private product, from a private company, if I breathe and live in the US. You are pretending these two are the same, and they are not. One leaves me a choice, one does not.

Yes it is, which is part of why I carry coverage, but, I can no longer tailor my policy to my individual needs, I want the right back, to tailor my policy to MY needs, and, I soon will.

 

You also need to restrict some of the more futile care. One in five deaths in the USA occur in ICU. That is not one in five ICU patients dying but one in five of all deaths. If death is inevitable then they should not even be started to be admitted to a unit where average daily cost is around $5,000 per day

 

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to make that call, but nor would I argue with the premise.

 

The federal government isn't in the healthcare business you need to connect with reality

 

Perhaps categorize healthcare as per age bracket and health conditions,
depending upon the possibility of becoming sick, the insurers would be given tax subsidies if they will ensure the high probability bracket.

 

Birth is a death sentence...don't start this death panel crap.
Its bad enough trying to get single payer...now your gonna try an limit what you want covered for everyone for the almighty dollar?

 

So you want to go back to the world of pre existing condition, no insurance for your kids, caps on maximum payouts, people going bankrupt over health care costs, and millions without any health insurance at all?

Because what you're calling for is what we had before the ACA.

Oh, by the way, premiums were going up 15% a year under that system.

And you think that's a good idea??????!!!!!!!

 

And you started off so well, why mess it up?

 

Outstanding analogy, thank you.

 

what? we just literally did that with the ACA...

 

Your math is completely off...and what is the cost to the American people for the uninsured, compared...what are the numbers in unpaid medical bills?
I could not find it...but that 3.2 trillion dollar amount includes all the cost associated with why we need single payer system.

We need to alleviate our selves of that yearly bill, while getting better bang for our buck.

 

Paying recurring expenses by use of a vehicle designed to cover loss and damages normally results in runaway costs necessitated by having to pay for the administration. For medical insurance, the administration is two sided, the doctor in trying to get paid and the insurer to pay claims.

 

Because they'll get right on that, right after they fill that pothole you'be been swerving to avoid every day for the last four months.

Look, if we made it a 'true" insurance program- you just buy insurance based on your individual situation, the system would collapse in months. The old won't be able to afford it, and the young won't bother. The system only works because the government supports so much of it. So why are we including these middle men at Cigna and Blue Cross pulling down nine and eight figure salaries while making the quality of service worse?

 

Ah yes, when in doubt go with the old bandwidth fallacy. And nobody has been "screwed" that has not begged for it. I would suggest that for once in their lives, people use that bump between the shoulder's for something other than a hat rack.

 

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