Republicans have shifted so far to the right they are off the charts

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    You have fallen for left wing propaganda lock stock and barrel. The right had a single violent riot in 2021. The left had 547 of them in 2020. Conservatives have about the same positions as they have had for decades. Wokeness is a left wing thing and far further from being centrist than anything on the right. You have it backward and you are not moving right glacially or otherwise. You are a hard core lefty. I am a hard core righty but most conservatives are far left of me. I have been a hard core righty for at least a half century.
     
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    There are a litany of issues the Left has essentially remained static on while the Right has moved to more extreme positions. Once upon a time Repubs supported the imperative to address climate change, understood the need for gun control, supported bi-partisan legislation on immigration reform. For example, the Senate Immigration Reform Act of 2014 included a path to citizenship and passed 68-32. Would a similar bill get any Repub support today? No chance.
     
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    The complete opposite is true, actually... It is liberals who have shifted wayyyyyyyyyyyy to the left. Conservatives haven't shifted anywhere.
     
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    Well, no. I hear Repubs call Dems communists and we don't have a communist problem. Besides, no one is calling everyone anything. Does that change the fact we have a problem with the rise of the white supremacy movement, here and in other parts of the world? No.
     
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    Project much?

    There was one attempted coup, and that's what counts.

    Trump, and his Death Cult, are the opposite of traditional conservatives, and of conservatism itself. Your party has gone insane, and you can't tell radical from conservative. Why am I not surprised?
     
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    American conservatives are neither small in number nor extreme.
     
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    You're a small minority, useful tools for the extreme Right rich.
     
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    Sure if the rest of the country decides to be moved by it. Most people are sheep in the herd.
     
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    DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!!

    A friend of mine puts this nicely as part of "The Debunking Signature" on his informational reference forum:

    https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/128/qanon-debunked
     
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    No point in repeating what I said. You aren't paying attention to it.
     
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    Yes.

    Yes, they do. They have pulled it so far left that they are in line with communist China. They now call Democrats such as Tulsi Gabbard "right wing extremists". Tulsi is no less of a leftist as she's always been, but the left has moved so far left that her very same leftist position on the political spectrum is now located "a bit right of center".

    They control the Democrat Party now.

    Conservatives do not control the Republican Party... RINOs do. Conservatives are fighting like hell to replace RINOs though.
     
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    Your opinion centers on what politicians do. I remove politicians from my opinions since I am antipartisan.
     
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    I'm not racist. Sowwy. Wife is Chinese. We have a mixed baby. White supremacy is kind of not gonna stick on me sir.
     
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    Radical is the opposite of conservative.

    There would be a fun discussion to be had about how conservative old school conservatives were, but that is not likely here..

    Anyway, this is the usual breakdown, 10% are genuinely off their rocker, and other 20% are along because they like chaos, and the rest had joined up and that's that.

    But here's a clue for ya, trying to kill democracy is the opposite of conservative, or smart, as far as that goes. Trying to take us back a century or more, also not conservative, but it is staggeringly dumb.
     
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    You're part of the White Power movement that is the Republican party these days. Rationalise that however you want.
     
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    What about the ones that support BLM and Antifa and the pro-abortion insurrection that is going on?

    What does it take to qualify for this "QAnon support". If QAnon supports say the right to keep and bear arms and I also support the right to keep and bear arms does that make me a supporter of QAnon?
     
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    36 out of 435! :eek: Get back to us after the primaries.
     
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    I did by labelling anyone who thinks that nonsense as crazy.
     
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    I doubt anyone actually knows what Qanon is. Is there a leader, does it have a location, does it have members, how does one join it? Sounds like just a liberal wet dream, just another universal bogyman for the left.
     
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    It has a guy that started it.

    It's an internet thing

    It has participants. People start rumors, and then everyone builds on that rumor. It's how you get child prostitution in a cellar that doesn't exist. These people have no idea what they're doing.

    Any idiot can join in, but you have to be an idiot.

    You wish.

    "QAnon[a] (/ˈkjuː.əˌnɒn/) is a political conspiracy theory that later evolved into a political movement. It originated in the American far-right political sphere. QAnon centers on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals known as "Q". The core QAnon theory is that a cabal of Satanic,[1][2][3] cannibalistic sexual abusers of children operating a global child sex trafficking ring conspired against former U.S. President Donald Trump during his term in office.[7] QAnon has direct roots in Pizzagate, an internet conspiracy theory that appeared one year earlier; it also incorporates elements of many other theories.[8] Some experts have described QAnon as a cult.[9]

    QAnon is described as antisemitic or rooted in antisemitic tropes, due to its fixation on Jewish financier George Soros and conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family, a frequent target of antisemites.[14][15] QAnon's conspiracy theories have been amplified by Russian and Chinese state-backed media companies, social media troll accounts,[20][16][21] and the far-right Falun Gong-associated Epoch Media Group.[27]

    Although it has its origins in older conspiracy theories, the first post by Q was in October 2017 on the anonymous imageboard website 4chan. Q claimed to be a high-level government official with Q clearance, who had access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States.[28] Q soon moved to 8chan, making it QAnon's online home.[29] Q's often cryptic posts became known as "drops", which were later collected by aggregator apps and websites. The conspiracy theory expanded into a viral phenomenon and quickly went beyond Internet culture, becoming familiar among the general population and turning into a real political movement. QAnon followers began to appear at Trump reelection campaign rallies in August 2018,[30] and Trump amplified QAnon accounts on Twitter through his retweets.[31]

    QAnon followers have perpetrated acts of violence on numerous occasions.[35] Members of the movement actively took part in the 2020 U.S. presidential election, during which they supported Donald Trump's campaign and waged information warfare in an attempt to influence voters.[36][37] After Joe Biden won, they were involved in efforts to overturn the results of the election. Several associates of Donald Trump, such as General Michael Flynn[41] and two members of his legal team, Lin Wood[46] and Sidney Powell,[52] have promoted QAnon-derived conspiracy theories. When these tactics failed, Trump supporters – many of them QAnon followers – attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. The Capitol Riot was a watershed moment for QAnon and led to a further, more sustained social media crackdown on the movement and its claims.[53][54]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

    Real bunch of winners.
     
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    Just a bunch of vague descriptions with no actual evidence. Another fantasy category for liberals to treat as a trash can.
     
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    Said the Leftist who just got through making excuses for a "progressive" Supreme Court nominee who refused to define what a woman is. :roll:
     
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    There are tons of evidence.

    You keep running away from the obvious, it's kinda sad.
     
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    Show the evidence. So far you only have posts from biased sources. A couple of random few disturbed dudes who claim to be Qanon members and the left runs with that as some kind of existential threat.
     

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