REVEALED: Israel’s IDF Used Passenger Airliners as Cover During Christmas Day Attack <MOD WARNING>

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  1. Pisa

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    Oh, the "I'm fresh out of arguments but I won't admit defeat" mother of all arguments.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amazing the reaction
    Oh Sorry, what other point were you making about the British Empire if not, "why did you not save us earlier" with your moaning about appeasement. Do tell what action the German Zionists took against the Nazis?
    Menachem Begin Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just in case you are struggling with my previous answer do you think this is terrorism?
    A man who leaves his own country whilst it is being invaded, has a choice between fighting for that country or going to another country and attacking only civilian targets, against a country who is fighting the invaders of his own country.

    Begin had studied the Irish War of Independence and the Indian independence movement, and, while planning the rebellion with Irgun commanders, devised a strategy of leverage he believed would force the British out. He proposed a series of guerrilla attacks that would humiliate the British and damage their prestige, which would force them to resort to repressive measures, which would in turn alienate the Yishuv. Begin banked on the international media being attracted to the action, which he referred to as turning Palestine into a "glass house", with the world looking in. This would draw international attention, and British repression would create global sympathy for the Irgun's cause, which in turn would translate into political pressure on Britain. Ultimately, the British would be forced to choose between continued repression or withdrawal, and Begin was certain that in the end, the British would leave. Furthermore, so as not to disturb the war effort against Germany, only British government and police targets would be attacked at first, while military targets would only be attacked once Germany had been defeated.
    I think that is terrorism, attacking of civilian targets, creating political pressure with violence, murdering civilians and police. So do you think that is terrorism or not?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin
     
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    As you described it no. Because it appears assuming your account is accurate that attacking civilian targets was NOT undertaken with the intent of terrorizing the civilian population but in order not to detract from the greater war effort against the Germans.
     
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    101 reasons why murdering Police and Civilians is not Terrorism according to a Zionist!
    Not sure why you think it would not terrorise people to think they may be shot or blown up, I presume you did not think 911 was terrorism because they did not attack the US military structure!
    Edit. And that is to be added to your,
    It is not terrorism if no-one gets hurt!
     
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    I must admit I am surprised how many people support terrorism on this forum! I must be naive, I sort of assumed that most people would not support terrorism regardless of who carried it out!
     
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    Here is a cartoon from the Daily Mail in 1946 for all you terrorist supporters out there, enjoy.

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    After what the brits has done all over the world I get why some wanted to take up arms against them.
     
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    Some terrorism is acceptable
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is great to see on this thread some Zionist supporters finally admitting to their beliefs!
     
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    That the brits should be made to pay for what they did..; Yep! guilty as charged.
     
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    Yes, look at the way they promised a land not theirs to Zionist Jews, even before they had liberated it from the Turkish Empire! But sorry cannot agree with attacks on civilians and police.
     
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    Well you know where we are!
     
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    Terrorism must be a hostile action with the intent of causing fear among a population.

    Of course the 9-11 attacks were terrorism. They attacked civilian targets with the intent of spreading fear.

    And I am not a "Zionist". I've never even been to Israel.
     
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    So funny, you do not even know what a Zionist is!
     
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    So, what is wrong with being a Zionist.
    You say it as though it is a bad thing.
     
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    Exactly what part of that sentence makes you think that?
     
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    what part of what sentence.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The sentence of mine you quoted!
     
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    Zionist is too vague, and is used for derogatory claims.
    Just agreeing with the existence of Israel as a jewish state can make you a Zionist,
    Regardless what your views on the issue are.
     
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    Christian Zionism in the original sense is clearly bad. Herzls Zionism whilst understandable has been proved incorrect by the Jewish community in the USA. Religous Zionism is just another sky god story.
     
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    Since you seem to be a self proclaimed expert on "Zionism" in all its forms would you care to provide detained definitions of each?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, google it. I would not help an apologist for terrorism in any way.

    And I do not claim I am an expert on Zionism in any way, you are simply making stuff up again, why do you do that?
     
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    I do not make stuff up. You and the other guy "Grau" in this thread have either made up a host of things, misrepresented stuff, and promoted wild assed conspiracy ideas.

    And no I will not list those. You can google it.
     
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    You just did make stuff up, you wrote I was a self proclaimed expert on Zionism and I showed I have never claimed any such thing. Now you claim I have made things up which again is just a fantasy but will not provide any evidence to back up your falsehood. You claimed you were not a Zionist without knowing what a zionist is, it is not my fault if you choose to promote your ignorance on a public forum.
     

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