Rick Santorum openly admits to wanting Christian theocracy

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    They dont know your personal interpretation of Islam. They are very familiar with the Islam that existed for 1300 years. Familiar with the Islam of the first four Rightly Guided Caliphs.
     
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    And I 'openly admit' that I think Rick Santorum is a xenophobic whack job.
     
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    I would not call people fools being that ti is just about "par for course" or run-of-the-mill for politicans, especially so-called Conservative ones, to want to emphasize their Christian Identity to the detriment of others who are not either Christian or Jewish. It may have just been rhetoric but it will and has caused a divide among the peoples of the United States.
     
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    Dixon, it is not an interpretation, any Muslim/Mushinun knows that there is no interpretation of Islam. Those who say that there is either are just hear-say "believers" or just outright hypocrites. Such are on the same level as a disbeliever.

    Also, it is a true lack of knowledge that causes one to state that Islam only existed for 1300 or 1400 years. Islam started with the Creator/Originator Himself. Islam is trillions of years old. It is about 76 to 78 trillions years old (when Creation first began).
     
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    "to emphasize their Christian Identity", is not a theocracy.
     
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    Sure it is. An interpretation that leads you to believe that the other muslims are "those who do know not what is Islam" and "on the same level as a disbelieverelieve"
     
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    They are also completely unrelated to the Bible. They are protections against the inalienable Right of Life and Property.

    The primary purpose of the United States government, based upon the Declaration of Independence, is to protect the inalienable (unalienable) Rights of the People and I cite that passage in my signature. The fact that there might be a Biblical coincidence is unrelated to the laws in the United States. As we know the Bible also contains passages that advocate war, murder, incest, polygamy and many other violations of the inalienable Rights of the People. People have used "Biblical teachings" to rationalize atrocities for thousands of years.

    Today we have Rick Santorum advocating the tyranny of government in supporting the denial of equal protection under the law and, in fact, has pledged an oath to seek a Constitutional Amendment to institutionalize this discrimination based solely upon his "Christian Religious Beliefs" and he's openly admitted that fact. It certainly goes against the very ideal which was the foundation for government in the United States and he literally should be condemned by every American that believes in the ideals upon which this nation was founded.
     
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    Yes, and many of us want to win the lottery. That doesn't mean it will happen, unless we elect the Pope himself, and Congress will be made up of Nuns and Monks.
     
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    I was watching an analysis this morning on CNN and the odds don't look good for any Republican presidential candidate in November based upon the primary results so far. In most of the primaries the minority vote has been well below 10% because the Republicans have disenfranchised the minority communities.

    With about 1/2 of the US population being minorities it's going to be virtually impossible for a Republican to win the presidential election. Republicans may win some Congressional seats where they hold a clear majority in a "white" state but the presidency appears to be completely out of reach. Of course it doesn't help that they've embarked on a course to disenfranchise women voters as well but that's another story.
     
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    Also in the bible. Not sure of your point. Proclaiming ssomething to be unrelated to the bible isnt really an argument
     
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    Many like to claim that the laws of the United States are based upon the Bible but in reality they are not. There are cases of coincidence but that is all. The laws of the United States should never be based upon any religious teachings because we are a secular country. They should be based upon protecting the inalienable Rights of the People.

    Rick Santorum wants to impose law based upon the Bible that violates the inalienable Rights of the People even though the specific Right he advocates violating is protected by enumeration in the US Constitution.
     
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    Not when they only make up 15-20% of the vote.
     
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    What you dont understand, is that the motivations for the law are irrelevant. A murder statute doesnt become unconstitutional because its motivated by a belief in the bible, and doesnt become constitutional if it is not.
     
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    No, coincidence does not create a violation of the Constitution but laws exclusively based upon religious beliefs, such as the prohibition of same-gender marriage, which violates the enumerated protected Rights of the Individual under the Constitution are a completely different matter.

    The attempt to impose Biblical Law is no different than the attempt to impose Shiara Law and both are equally unacceptable and both violate the 1st Amendment.
     
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    Wrong. While the exact words cannot be found in the constitution, the intent is clearly there (in the establishment and free exercise clauses) and there have been plenty of legal decisions, includeing supreme court decsions that have limited the extend to which religious belief could be accomodated by the laws, especially if the application of religious beliefs into ACTIONS pose a significant burden on society.

    I suggest you go to Wikepedia "establishment Clause" and "free exercise clause" article to read it in full, including the case studies. but here is an extract from that Wikepedia article:

     
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    Lying again, I see. It never seems to get old for you.
     
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    What an amazing stupid post. Atheists are not the font of peace, common sense or reasoning. We can all think of some totally irrational atheists. I'm an atheist but I'm comfortable with that and don't need to proselytize.
     
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    How is this a lie?
     
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    You don't even know what a theocracy is. So it probably isn't technically a lie, when it's ignorance.
     
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    It means the gouvernement is directed by someone who is "divinely guided"

    Santorum admitted to this several times, he even is proud of it.

    If it fits ...
     
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    we are protected from becoming a theocracy... and from people like SatanRum trying to pass laws pushing religion on the people
     
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    The lefts lies will strangle them.
     
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    If that is true then why are the wacko environmentalists pushing their religion of man-made global warming and doomsday on us through the Obama administration?
     
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    his dream would be America's nightmare
     
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    Nothig there to support your assertion that the clause protects people from religion
     
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