NO, I have NEVER acknowledged that bunch of crap ...that is Anti-Choicer going into "Making Things Up" mode when they have NO FACTS. Here's the STILL NEVER Answered Question: What rights do you want a ZEF to have that don't interfere with the rights of the person they are in? See, despite Anti-Choicer's disappointment, women still have rights. Despite Anti-Choicers trying to turn them into nothing more than broodstock women are still humans and have rights.. DUH, the Supreme Court doesn't write laws....[/QUOTE]
Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? BTW, did you know women are persons????? You seem to forget that
And, a tenant in a landlord's dwelling on a lease is a possession as well. But, the landlord cannot kill the tenant if he/she doesn't like the tenant. The fact is, it's the parent's duty to protect the child-fetus while in the temporary possession.
[/QUOTE] That's correct. So, the Roe v. Wade case must be overturned as it was writing a new law that did not exist. Thanks for agreeing...
Haven't forgot women are persons. But, they are the landlords and should know that. They should be adults and take responsibility for the protection of the child while under her care. Being a person has nothing to do with being a woman. Men are person's too. But, those who mess around with God's procreation powers that she shares with God should take good protection acts, not murder.
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, I have NEVER acknowledged that bunch of crap ...that is Anti-Choicer going into "Making Things Up" mode when they have NO FACTS. DUH, the Supreme Court doesn't write laws.... FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, I have NEVER acknowledged that bunch of crap .. You saying I agreed does not mean I agreed... ...that is an Anti-Choicer going into "Making Things Up" mode when they have NO FACTS. DUH, the Supreme Court doesn't write laws....
FoxHastings said: ↑ Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? BTW, did you know women are persons????? You seem to forget that Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ????
The landlord can kill the tenant if the tenant is harming the landlord.... Or do you believe only YOU should have the right to self defense??? Here's the STILL NEVER Answered Question: What rights do you want a ZEF to have that don't interfere with the rights of the person they are in?
It's called legislating from the bench. Roe v. Wade was that. Making laws form the bench. Let's remove it and let Congress do their job.
The woman has a right to live. The baby has an equal right to live. Neither have more rights. But, the pregnant woman has more responsibilities when messing with procreation powers. She must take care of what she has created, not kill it. That is irresponsible and murder.
. Oh my, how kind f you...but sad for you that she has many more rights than that. A baby does, a fetus doesn't. YOU want ZEFs to have the right to harm another without their consent... NO one has that right....so you want the ZEF to have MORE rights than anyone else. No, she only has responsibility for herself.....YOU do NOT determine what responsibilities others should have...that's a "god" syndrome disease. No, she can do whatever she wants with her body. Only to you, you who has NEVER done their civic duty and called the police about these "murders"... Why can't you answer the questions?: FoxHastings said: ↑ Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? BTW, did you know women are persons????? You seem to forget that Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ???? AND LEARN HOW TO USE THE QUOTE SYSTEM...# 186 is a mess..
This is for any misogynist or science denier who claims pregnancy doesn't harm women : Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy: exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks) altered appetite and senses of taste and smell nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester) heartburn and indigestion constipation weight gain dizziness and light-headedness bloating, swelling, fluid retention hemmorhoids abdominal cramps yeast infections congested, bloody nose acne and mild skin disorders skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen) mild to severe backache and strain increased headaches difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping increased urination and incontinence bleeding gums pica breast pain and discharge swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) extreme pain on delivery hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover) Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy: stretch marks (worse in younger women) loose skin permanent weight gain or redistribution abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh) changes to breasts increased foot size varicose veins scarring from episiotomy or c-section other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty) increased proclivity for hemmorhoids loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis) higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates) Occasional complications and side effects: complications of episiotomy spousal/partner abuse hyperemesis gravidarum temporary and permanent injury to back severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies) dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele) pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies) eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death) gestational diabetes placenta previa anemia (which can be life-threatening) thrombocytopenic purpura severe cramping embolism (blood clots) medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby) diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication) serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis) hormonal imbalance ectopic pregnancy (risk of death) broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone") hemorrhage and numerous other complications of delivery refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures) severe post-partum depression and psychosis research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease Less common (but serious) complications: peripartum cardiomyopathy cardiopulmonary arrest magnesium toxicity severe hypoxemia/acidosis massive embolism increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer) malignant arrhythmia circulatory collapse placental abruption obstetric fistula More permanent side effects: future infertility permanent disability death.
The passage in Ezekiel clearly identifies a fetus as a possession. And, concocting stories about persons when the issue is fetuses is just plain not good enough.
Was there a law from Congress that approved abortion? Then why is it legal? Because the Court made it legal. That was easy...
Yes it is because the analogies are true. You just don't want to accept them true when they are mostly clearly true. So what if it's a possession? It's only temporary and it's what the parent is to do with the opportunity of temporary possession. Their responsibility is clear, to protect and nurture the child. Not kill it. Abortion is a sickness of evil.
The "so what" is that the Biblical position documented in Ezekiel was that there should be no punishment for the death of the fetus - only financial compensation to the husband for the loss of a possession. Unlike the Bible, you are making claims of murder and the commission of "evil".
YOU claimed the Supreme Court wrote laws....they still don't. Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ????
FoxHastings said: ↑ YOU claimed the Supreme Court wrote laws....they still don't. Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ???? Why are you dodging the questions? Yup, we are all BORN equal...
Why are YOU claiming I said the SCOTUS wrote laws or the other lines of your post????????? "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," It is SELF-EVIDENT, why are you denying it and making a fallacious statement just to defend abortion. You know abortion in which a human life that was created is killed, an unborn baby. Why are you denying science and biology we are all equally created as human beings, in the same way, and that creation is at conception. Again you prove my point that the pro-abortion side must try to change the common language, engage in euphemisms and deny science and biology to sustain their position.
FoxHastings said: ↑ YOU claimed the Supreme Court wrote laws....they still don't. Prove it...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ???? Why are you dodging the questions? Yup, we are all BORN equal... That post was directed at another poster...pay attention. LOL, so now you're calling a ZEF a "man"??? Yup, hasn't been born, has no rights. , Science and biology don't say that. There is no "Pro-Abortion" side... Again you prove my point that you must try to change the scientific language, engage in euphemisms and deny science and biology to sustain your position. Prove a ZEF has rights...show your unborn fetus's SSN .... use it for a tax deduction ??? Why do you want some "persons" to have more rights than other persons ???? Why are you dodging the questions?
