Roe Vs. Wade should be overturned

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  1. Joe knows

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    Abortion is a disgusting event. It’s the murder of a baby. The clear intent to stopping a human heart from beating. The constitution does not in any way give one a right to abortion or murder. The constitution also does not restrict a states ability to regulate against it. Roe Vs Wade was a ruling not based on the constitution but only on the emotion of murderous, and self centered women.

    I believe the judge who wrote the dissent was 100% right.

    https://www.thirteen.org/wnet/supremecourt/personality/landmark_roe.html
     
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    No. The murder of a baby is called infanticide. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. Get a dictionary, mate.

    No.

    Ever heard about Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? Or the separation of Church and State?

    Keep your Bible to yourself, bruv.

    You are 100% wrong in believing so.
     
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    Have you ever had unprotected sex?
    Or, do you only have sex for the purpose of procreation?
    Do you believe that someone has the right to tell you what you can and can't do with YOUR body?
    If not, why do you believe that you have the right to tell someone (with the same rights you have) what she can with hers?

    You don't have to answer. I just want you think about those questions for yourself.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States

    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/24/18630825/abortion-roe-v-wade-vs-jane-collective

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    Source: http://www.ccainstitute.org/resources/fact-sheets




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    Source: https://www.savethechildren.org/us/charity-stories/child-hunger-in-america
     

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    Where do you think unwanted children end up? Not counting the children I advocated for, but people that I know personally - I know of three mothers and 1 father who refer to their children "my big mistake" (oops baby, etc.). What do you think that does to a child's self-esteem and sense of worth? All of them are middle-class in two parent households.

    Reversing Roe v Wade won't stop abortions and caring and nurturing CAN'T be mandated. We are condemning most of these children to a life of poverty, abuse, neglect, trafficking, hunger and eventually a life of crime (in many cases).

    These children are bounced around from place to place until they "age out" and they are basically left with nothing. Could you rent an apartment or buy a house, afford a car, gasoline and food when you were 18 years old?




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    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/opinion/how-to-turn-children-into-criminals.html
     
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    If anti-abortion activist spent half the time and money on incubators and well baby clinics for babies that are wanted
    and already born they would be doing more "pro life" work that actually mattered to real lives rather than potential lives
    ... oh well - it's all about the rhetoric and not the reality - it's all about party politics, not lives of real babies.
     
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    Infanticide? Did you make that up?

    A baby aborted at any stage is considered a abortion by most Americans.
     
  9. Ritter

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    Nope. It is a very real word.

    Just as it should.
     
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    :) Gee, no misogyny here , folks! (sarcasm)
     
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    Once again, there are NO babies involved in abortion,....just in the fact-free imaginations of Anti-Choicers
     
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  12. Joe knows

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    Then I suppose a fetus, as you would call it, is still life. It doesn’t matter what you call it. It has a heart beat and it is alive
     
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    Animals have heartbeats too and even cancers and the Coronavirus are lives.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Once again, there are NO babies involved in abortion,....just in the fact-free imaginations of Anti-Choicers



    That doesn't make it a PERSON, a legal person with rights....it's still only a fetus and NOT a "baby".
     
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    You seem incredibly ignorant of the constitution. You should learn about it. It is important.

    That said, I will help you.

    The right to abortion is located in the 9th amendment between the right to travel and presumption of innocence.
     
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    Actually, the anti-abortionists are a threat to Individual Rights as a whole and even threaten everyone's right to property, free trade and also free speech. Thus, they crap on the Constitution as a whole.
     
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    Agreed. Many, not all, are fake patriots.

    I mean really, many repub voters were advocating for and voting for Roy Moore... even after he was removed from the bench twice for violating the constitution.

    Unparalleled hypocracy.
     
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    Lets say abortion becomes a crime. How do you enforce abortion laws that failed long before the internet and abortion drugs?
     
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    Republicans are only pretending to care about the unborn. They figure that the more unwanted children are born, the better chance they will have to lock them up for life or execute them down the line. The prison industrial complex spends tons of money electing these phony “pro lifers”...
     
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    Actually that is not true
     
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    If, whatever created us, wanted us to have random unprotected sex with strangers we just met, just for fun, he or she would have given us built-in protection for doing so - this applies to abortions and sexually transmitted diseases - both of which are Mother Nature talking to you.

    We're humans - we're not supposed to act like livestock.
     
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    You are being extremely judgemental and prejudiced about a large portion of the population with no real basis to back it up with other than the 2000 year old superstition your priest has fed you.

    If everything was up to "Mother Nature", we would not have medicines, houses, laws or even the Internet to be here discussing this topic. What makes us human is our umique capacity to reason and conceptualise. Our ability to break the chains of "Mother Nature" and replace her with Civilisation.

    What is so bad about having sex just for the fun of it anyways?

    Then why do you anti-abortionists treat women as such?
     
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    If whatever created us didn't want us to have sex then they shouldn't have created a sex drive....or sex !!!

    "Mother Nature" isn't real...

    We aren't supposed to be treated like livestock....but if women are forced to gestate that is what they are...
     
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    Uh, "babies" can't be aborted since they are already born...
     
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    I have whoever you responded to blocked. I can only imagine the <censored myself> in that post.

    The other issue here is people (mostly Catholic) are having anal and/or oral sex to claim they are still "virgins" when marrying. Both of those can transmit STDs and cause certain cancers. Look what happened to Farrah Fawcett and Michael Douglas.

    It's really bizarre to me how "religious" people cherry pick which "rules" they want to follow.
     
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