Ron Paul Supporters:

If the nation could give a 2year Jr. Senator who never managed a lemonade stand a shot, We can give a decorated Military Veteran who made it back home in one piece, a shot.

case closed

Now it's Ron Paul or I'm moving to a Senegal. j/k but you get the picture.

 

Do you provide anything worthwhile at all to debate with other than the usual drivel you deliver? I've never seen you once actually post anything worth debating it's usually ad hominems and fallacies.

 

you don't know what you're talking about

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Oh yes those comments... the ones that were opened up in 07 but, fell in flames afterwards. Keep trying honesty. You're only proving my point you're simply out for personal attacks rather than going for the message.

 

Yes.

I am very Afraid of what might happen when a guy who doesn't believe Iran is a threat is elected president .

END OF STORY.

 

honesty? ron paul's newsletters are real

and what fell was ron paul as a serious presidential candidate

ron paul says he doesn't accept the theory of evolution, either

 

Sorry I don't see that... Considering how much favor he has today. Those personal attacks failed just as much your own attacks towards him failed. Keep trying harder.

Does it really matter? It's not like he trying to force his opinion on you or anymore. I see plenty of Religious People in Political Positions shouldn't you be fearing them too for their Religious Beliefs as well?

 

He understands we're making them a threat because we're cornering them... a Wild Animal doesn't attack unless it feels severally threatened. In the case of Iran they have every logical sense to want a Nuke if they so desired by the actions of Foreign Countries around them. You remove the threat and you remove the reason to be aggressive.

 

Iran could never be more than a regional threat and Israel will make sure even that doesn't happen. Honestly, some of you folks remind me of the Red Scare mentality of the 50's. We don't need to spend our way further into bankruptcy and sacrifice more Americans to feed paranoia.

What do you think Mitt Romney will do to Iran? Saber rattling?

Recognize that Iran has a huge % of its population under 30 that doesn't think like their regime does. Remember the Green Movement there in 2009? Why alienate another generation or do you just like to cultivate enemies?

 

Yawn...you posted this same exact vid with the same exact comment earlier. Is this your default argument against Ron Paul? Do you not think that every candidate has a whacko or two supporting them?

 

The only threat Iran is to the USA is if they decide to refuse to accept dollars for their oil. This idea that they will explode a nuclear device in the US is nonsense. They, and everyone else in the world, know that they wouldn't exist thirty minutes later. Use your head and decipher the real threat. Quit being manipulated.

 

This shows me that you don't understand how government works. This is why we need an insider who knows how government works and can make it work for The People. So we should be interested in an insider who has a consistent track record of fighting government for The People.

When a bill is introduced to congress, it is preallocated a specific block of funds, (ie; a $450 billion jobs bill). That money is then assigned, or earmarked, to specific projects, programs, investments..... The money that is not accounted for in an earmark for a specific use goes into a slush fund, where it is most often wasted and/or corrupted (a $500 hammer, a $10,000 toilet seat...)

Ron Paul is known for earmarking bills to benefit his constituency. When people attack him on this, they conveniently leave out the catch; after Ron Paul earmarks the bills, he then votes "NO" on them. He got the nickname "Dr. No" honestly.

I highly doubt that Ron Paul voting "NO" on the bills that are earmarked to benefit his constituency is what has gotten him reelected 11 times.

 

what a joke

in 2008, ron paul couldn't even win one state primary election, not one

that's deceitful

 

That's OK

Those who (NO) RON Paul.. Know he is wrong for America.

All those millions he raises every cycle ..and he just gives them away to NO chance pot party candidates.
If you call him on who he supported during any previous campaign as in- effective or stupid..all you get back is principle and character.

Just like his votes in Congress.
On principle..character..

and just as in -effective and stupid.
He can afford to VOTE NO when he knows his vote DOESN'T MATTER..and the sheep still dont get it.

 

Clearly you're still a moron with how you present yourself and your basless accusations as well as your pathetic points of view concerning the foreign policy absolutely baffle me. After reading your comments concerning the Soldiers fighting the Wars while you get to comfortably sit on your ass all day then proceed to call them morons because they're not high up on the Command is repulsive. Maybe you should have been born an Ant rather than a Human... Your collective thought process and disregard of life you have for the "sub-human" soldiers in Wars really makes me believe you're nothing but an insect. You keep preaching as to how Romney is the glorious one when he has shown nothing at all to prove he is a Man of Honor or a Man of Character. He is nothing but what another thread said "serial windsock" in how he bends over to whatever the Banks or the Majority of the populace demand of him. He is just another scumbag and I can see why a person such as yourself would vote for him.

 

Really? Why? Because you say so?

 

because it isn't straight it's crooked

if ron is against a bill, then he shouldn't contribute to porking it up, he should just vote no on it

but ron votes no, knowing that the bill is likely to pass and his district gets to spend the money

 

That shows that you don't understand how the legislative process works. When a bill is presented to Congress for a vote it is preallocated a specific block of funds (ie a $450 billion jobs bill). That money is already attached to that bill, because whatever genius wrote the bill knew that is exactly how much money would be needed to fund it. If that money is not accounted for through specified projects (earmarks) then the unclaimed money goes into a slush fund, where it is used to buy a $10,000 toilet seat. Ninety percent of the money that lands in a slush fund is wasted away through corruption.

So instead of sitting on his hands and doing nothing when a big budget bill is presented to the House, and just waiting for it to come to a vote so he can vote "no", he loads his share of earmarks into it to see to it that if the bill is passed that money won't make its way into a slush fund and will actually go to help his constituency.

You said, "Ron votes 'no' knowing that the bill is likely to pass." Well if he knows that the bill is likely to pass, then it might be a good idea for him to assign some funds to benefit his people, and the taxpayers, so that it doesn't become more government waste, no? He put earmarks into Obama's Jobs Bill and voted "no" on it too, did he know it was going to pass? It didn't pass.

You're saying that instead of putting his earmarks into the bills and then voting "no" on them, he should do nothing and then vote "no". It is quite naive that you somehow consider that lack of action to be more productive.

 

no, it shows that ron paul is a dishonest politician, he says he's against big government, but his district is consistently among the top in texas that takes federal dollars; he's just another double-talking, crooked politician

 

I like your supporting evidence to prove your claim... maybe you should try actually proving it next time unless of course this is the Opinion forums.

 

It's easy to vote against wiretaps..knowing its going to pass and you're one of the few republicans to vote against it..

The same with going to war in Iraq.
so he votes No all the time and he get re elected 11 times ?

gee ..imagine why some are able to connect the ear mark dots .
Either that or his district is one of the stupidest in America.

So..if he votes no all the time.( and we have a economic mess anyway..)
and he doesn't bring home Pork ( even though we know better )

Why would you keep sending an in effective old man back to congress 11 times ?
It is all about the ability to bring the PORK home... and his lack of term limits allowed him to rise in PORK value among those old timers in Congress.

Paul isn't the answer..he's part of the problem..

No votes ..ya right ..he prevented nothing from happening..did nothing to stop the melt down.. didn't end wars or kill bad guys..
He just gave position policy speeches.
for 22 years..without SHOWING THE BEEF.
just little shrimps.

 

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i wouldn't, ron paul panders to know-nothings, miscreants and malcontents

 

You make good points. Sounds like he didn't contribute to the problems. I suspect that he is reelected because his constituency also don't wish to contribute to the crimes being committed in congress. As for earmarks, his district obviously appreciates his attempts to capture some of their tax money and bring it home. After all, it is their money. Against earmarks, yes. Recovering a small percentage of the tax that his district paid to be used in his district-good sense.

This is really not that hard to understand unless you just don't want to see.

 

ron paul has been a part of the big government he preaches against, for decades

 

On the Iraq war vote..

I would have loved to see a tie vote with Paul casting the last vote.
No where to run..no where to hide,and then we could have debated his true political abilities.
Based upon a vote that mattered.
I dont think he would change that vote..but he would still have been on the wrong side of that vote...and it would have mattered more.
As president all this stuff REALLY does matter and count..
No more pre season.. no more policy speeches..That be Obama..
We need stuff fixed right now..not 5 years later.