Royal Air Force Pilots Ordered To Shoot Down "Hostile" Russian Jets Over Syria

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ed-shoot-down-hostile-russian-jets-over-syria

Thus the evolution of Western elites from abstract threats terrorism - in specific address was completed, and it remains only to wait, what exactly lieutenant decides that it is time to start a nuclear war.
And since threatening aircraft in the eyes "of our western partners" is generally any aircraft of the Russian Federation, I do not think that will have to wait very long.
Especially that "authoritative Western experts" argue that War will not be long - 15 days and everything will be over.

Another speech European politician. You know how it ended. Is not it?

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What do you think about it?

 

I think you shouldn't worry. A couple of 'mistakes' shooting down some RAF fighters with those S-300 missiles you have will see them leave.

 

The idea to defeat Russia "very quickly" - before the frost - absolutely not original, it can be said - the age-old, but, in contrast to the great ideas, stupid ideas are immortal. Almost all of the "Western partners" to defeat Russia has already tried - everyone at least once - it embody. My God, how many these "exceptional" was already. Russian land is rich on Western military "talents" that are buried in it... Well, if appeared yet one idiot, let him try.

 

I think the Russians can sometimes act a bit paranoid, confusing the kind of talk and war scenarios that are used to grab more money for the US military industrial complex with actual thoughts of risking a nuclear war with Russia! The only way the US would even get close to such a situation is if it is certain that Russia has taken their 'war scenarios' seriously and has accepted defeat before a shot is fired, making them absolutely confident that Russia would not retaliate to any provocation. Otherwise, if they have the slightest doubt on the issue, they aren't going to risk any war (conventional or nuclear) with Russia over any of the nonsense they are involved in.

 

I will tell you what I think. Like many americans we have lost all trust in our gov't, which is no longer our gov't. We are ruled over by a collusion of the robber baron class, the oligarchs, and our politicians who are their puppets.

Next, we wage wars based upon lies, told to the American people, and there is no doubt in my mind that the next war will be based upon outright lies. America, thanks to this collusion that has usurped our republic, as gov't got out of the way and allowed the return of the robber barons who write our policy, has moved into fascism, oligarchy.

All that Russia and putin have to do, is to bend over, let our robber barons ram their pedophile rods up your arses, without even the courtesy of Vaseline, and you can be the servants of our robber barons, and all will be well, very well. Let us plunder your resources, let us extract as much of the wealth of your people as possible, and all will be well. For this is what my nation does, and our gov't has even helped these barons in taking 60 percent of the wealth of our middle with their sociopathic schemes.

I think our citizens should join with your people, and cleanse America of these treasonous bastards. Traitors to the republic our founders formed and gave the American people. I do not know how we would do this, but something has to be done, and I abhor violence so I would not want to go down that road. But unless we take this nation back, the wars based upon lies will never end, as the evil American fascist empire enriches its robber barons and exploits every human being that can be exploited in their sociopathic greed.

Ike warned us, and the political tribalism amongst our brain dead partisans, paid no heed. But then most of us have been conditioned by propaganda to manufacture a consent that allows our robber barons free rein. And unless the American people understand this evil ruse, we will continue to wage perpetual war for perpetual peace, based upon lies. Some of this propaganda has convinced our brain dead that Russia is hitler's Germany, that Russia plans on conquering western Europe, and that all should fear Russia, for she is so evil. When IMO, based upon over 70 years of observation, all that Russia wants is national and economic security from the western robber barons who run our gov't. They do not want to be surrounded by NATO with missiles set up and aimed at Russian cities. No more than we would want that done by anyone else. In fact, if it were done by another nation, or nations, to us, we would not tolerate it. But we are entitled to what other nations have no right to be entitled to. Russia has no right for economic and national security, only the west does. It is utter lunacy, and yet we have americans who cannot or will not see this. American Idiots.

I live in the Dark Empire. And I am sick of it. We have not had a congress or president who represents the American people, the non elites, since Reagan got into office. Reagan was not smart enough to understand what would happen when you unleashed the robber barons upon America, and the rest of the world. His meme of getting gov't out of the way, was essentially another way of saying, we need to turn the robber barons loose again, after FDR had cut off some of their nut sacks to restrain them, and not allow them to wreck our economy again after they gave us the crash of 29 and the great depression. Of course the power of the robber barons never went away, but FDR constrained them enough to keep them from destroying our economy again. And it worked, for decades, until Reagan and every president and congress beginning with him, were complicit in the crash of 08, complicit with the elites taking, stealing, 60 percent of the wealth of the middle, as they plundered or tried to plunder other nations.

I do not know what will happen unless we take back our republic from these dangerous, arrogant, sociopathic robber barons and their puppets in DC. But I do know that the propaganda and lies will continue on, giving us a continuation of perpetual war for perpetual peace, for as Gen. Butler said long ago, of our robber barons and their puppets, War is a Racket.

 

I'm looking for a verifying link of what that US general quoted the Russian foreign minister. THAT verbiage was insane. Your linking Hitlers speech but uh what that general quoted sounded a lot like a Hitler speech.

So that to me is out of context to all the ME saber rattling and very bad

As far as a European Russian campaign success wise if you look at the breakdown of their military forces, it's definitely a land grab army heavy on mobile air defense to protect their huge tank number superiority. So I guess their idea would be to grab X,Y, and Z then after bloodying our noses since they can't beat us make a treaty? Purely conventional of course

 

Bravo!!!

 

Russia seems to be TRYING to get western forces to attack it....be careful what you wish for.

 

I do not think that will be a classic war. In the likeness of the first or second world war. I think that it's will be nuclear apocalypse.
Everyone is talking about it. For example, in Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations conducted exercises with the participation of 40 million people. (You imagine how much it costs? And if Russian agree to these expenses, then it means the money will not matter. It is a matter of survival.) There are other indicators..... Russian do not start wars, but the Russian ready for war.

Unfortunately idiots in Western governments do not understand - Russian do not surrender. If Western governments want war, they will have it.

 

Yes, Russia was attacked by enemies too often. And Russia suffered a tremendous loss. Therefore it is not surprising that Russian direct threat words reacts as direct threats to the action.

Too often, the threat in words turned into a real attack.

However, it is not in Russia but in Israel it was said: "If your opponent promises to kill you, do not think he wants to kill you, or just said. Act as if he wants to kill you really are.".

 

Haha this old story again. It was fake to begin with and its fake now

 

If Russia wants to avoid warfare, the solution is really very simple. All it need do is stop invading and annexing the lands of its neighbors and obey long established international law. That shouldn't be too difficult to do.

 

Ayup...ever wonder why all those bases are there?

Here's a little hint...NATO.

Ever looked at the charter and thought about WHY it has grown so much?

Here's another little hint...RUSSIA.

 

When the USSR collapsed, much was released and learned of the USSR's military plans in the event of war with the USA. Russia had no first-strike plan, only retaliatory plans. We learned that our military planners were 100% wrong about USSR capabilities, strategies and even locations of key weaponry and systems.

We also had severely under-estimated the USSRs military capabilities and how advanced their systems were. For example, the bulk of the USSR's nuclear tipped ballistic missiles were literally on the other side of the world than we thought. The USSR had been using inferior submarines that we could track - thinking we are superior being able to do so, while their city-killing most advanced submarines were thousands of miles away and never detected - plus learned overall their submarines weapons systems were vastly superior to ours.

Russia generally always fights an initial defensive war taking huge casualties, and then mounts a massive and ongoing merciless counter-attack.

Hillary Clinton and USA/Western military planners are making the same mistake Napoleon and Hitler - and many others - have arrogantly made believing they are superior people over ignorant Russians. They also assume Russia will not go atomic or nuclear if we stick to conventional warfare attacks against Russia, despite Putin stating he will use tactical nuclear (ie atomic) weapons in response to any conventional attack including attacks outside of Russian borders.

Americans have not suffered warfare in the USA since the Civil War. Russians historically are well familiar with war and possibly are far more realistic about it.

The actual effect of Hillary Clinton, her neocon war-masters, and those in the US military talking about a renewed arms race, renews Cold War, shooting down Russian aircraft over a country they do not have permission to be flying and and Russia does, and other talk of war against Russia will be a high recruitment interest and growing nationalism within Russia increasingly militarizing Russia and Russian society.

Who could have predicted the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential candidate would be the most war-mongering political party and candidate since the Indian wars? Thru the corporate propaganda MSM their pushing for another Cold War and even hot war with Russia is unprecedented. Never before in USA history has a political party or presidential candidate openly called for - even promised - war with Russia.

 

If the US wants to avoid warfare, the solution is really very simple. USA should not attack other States, should not kill civilians, do not need to build military bases around Russia. The US needs also to stop backing terrorists and support the totalitarian regimes of the middle East. It would also be nice if the United States ceased to tell you what to do Western Europe, ceased to bring its policy in sport. That shouldn't be too difficult to do.

 

The Russians are watching you and are going to get you. It must be terrible to live in such constant fear.

 

NATO are the USA And, it isn't necessary to deceive himself and others. The NATO grew contrary to arrangements with Russia all the time. Even in 1990s when Russia was weak and in principle couldn't threaten neighbors.

So it not the NATO grows in response to threats of Russia. It Russia should behave aggressively in response to growth of NATO:

From the collapse of the USSR, NATO has begun to be at war in Europe and to extend towards Russia. Of course, Russia can't disregard it.

 

Well, here is the problem with that, the US isn't attacking other states and doesn't intentionally kill civilians...oops. Unfortunately for you comrade, facts do matter. On the other hand, your beloved Mother Russia has repeatedly and intentionally bombed civilians. If your beloved Mother Russia didn't illegally invade and annex the lands of her neighbors, the US wouldn't need to build military installations on Mother Russia's borders. The only reason US troops are on Russia's borders is because those countries fear Russia will invade as Russia has done in the past. American troops are on Russia's borders only because Mother Russia has threatened those countries to the point where those countries have requested an American troop presence in order to keep Russia at bay.

And just what terrorists do you think the US is backing exactly, and please do be specific? The truth is the US isn't backing any terrorist groups - sorry comrade. The truth matters. And this gets back to Russia's inability to be able to discern the difference between dissidents and terrorists. Russia has always been a dictatorial state and has never tolerated dissidents, hence the inability to understand the difference between a terrorist and a dissident. There is a difference comrade. The Free Syrian Army split off from the Syrian Army. Just in case you are not aware, what's going on in Syria is a civil war brought about by Assad's murder of his own people. And as you know, your beloved Mother Russia supports Assad; the man who has used weapons of mass destruction against his own people, and killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children and creating 5 million refugees in the process, many of which are being resettled in the US.

 

Russia do not annexation land its neighbors. Crimea after the referendum, voluntarily became part of Russia. Do not violated any international law. Who says the opposite - lying. Red Army in the Ukraine no. Who says the opposite - lying. Russian in Syria are at the invitation of the legitimately elected government of Syria. The US and other Western countries in Syria - underground. Western countries - 100% aggressors. For all international laws.

In addition, Russian mentally prepared for war....The aggression of Western countries against Russia - may be is this the first time?... Russian used to it and know from birth how and what to do. In addition, Russian - Orthodox. Therefore everyone knows that to die for Russia - it is a great privilege and honor.

 

I know it. These bases for aggression against Russia. Maybe you need to remember how many times the West attacked Russia. Russia has never attacked the West. Only protect. So the myth about "the bloody Russian" leave for the Western media. The Western media are very fond of these myths entertain a flock of sheep.

 

It certainly is for the Ukraine.

 

Further can not read all this nonsense.

 

I am also very surprised But my poor knowledge of English does not allow understand it trolling or completely brainwashed. Therefore, in any case considered that no trolling

 

Come on comrade, Russia did repeatedly invade and annex the lands of its neighbors. First in Georgia and then in Ukraine. And Russia did repeatedly violate international law. Those little green men which Russia initially denied as theirs and latter admitted where theirs weren't boy scouts. They were Russian Troops and they illegally invaded Ukraine e.g. Crimea. You also know the "referendum" was a farce. It wasn't open to international scrutiny and there were only 2 choices on the ballot, annexation now or later. I realized rigged elections are the norm in Russia, but then again Russia has never managed to get the democracy thing down. It has always been ruled by dictators.

Russia may be mentally prepared for war, but that won't help them. Russians are perfectly welcome to die for their country. But as an American general was attributed with saying,."I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country" - George C. Scott

So if Russians want to die for their country, so be it. It's their choice.