Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham and John Eastman subpoenaed by Fulton County DA in election probe

I wonder if it would have sounded better or worse if T**** had said "I just want to lose 11,780 Biden votes"? That's actually something a corrupt S of S might have been able to pull off....

 

Fanni/office can still investigate him

That's why Fox hired her, she had experience;

 

No and No, depending on what your definition of the words "office" and "investigate" is...

SNIP
A Fulton County judge is disqualifying District Attorney Fani Willis and her office from questioning state Sen. Burt Jones as part of their investigation into whether former President Donald Trump and his allies broke the law as they sought to overturn Georgia’s 2020 elections.

That means another set of prosecutors will determine whether to subpoena the Jackson Republican, whether to categorize him as a target of the investigation or whether any charges should ultimately be brought against him.
ENDSNIP

https://www.ajc.com/politics/judge-...or-in-trump-probe/E5UE3RMBQBC5XJ4YSRVTLCALXY/

I haven't seen anything that says her office cannot feed this new mystery office all of what she's found out about GA fake electors, though...

It's not like this one guy did something (or didn't do something) different than the other 15 bozos

 

Georgia Governor Kemp Will Testify in Probe Over Trump’s Bid to Overturn 2020 Election

Brett Pulley and Billy House, Bloomberg News
July 25,2022

"(Bloomberg) -- Georgia Governor Brian Kemp will become the latest politician to answer to Fani Willis, the Atlanta-based prosecutor commanding a wide-reaching investigation of former President Donald Trump’s attempts to change the outcome of the 2020 election.

Kemp will testify on Monday afternoon. Willis, the district attorney in Fulton County, has also issued subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from some of Trump’s closest confidantes and allies – including Rudy Giuliani and US Senator Lindsey Graham -- and sent letters to 16 Georgia Republican leaders warning them that they are targets in a criminal probe.

While the House committee in Washington investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack has held live nationally televised hearings, a concurrent investigation in Georgia has been quietly honing in on the former president. With evidence such as Trump on tape asking Georgia’s chief election official to “find” an additional 11,780 votes in his favor, Willis is now moving to get lower-level politicians and government officials to “flip” and testify against the president.

“It looks like Fani Willis is closing in on an indictment for Trump,” Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe said in an interview. Tribe said Willis has a clearer case to prove than the Justice Department, which is looking at broad issues such as obstructing a congressional inquiry, defrauding the government and inciting an insurrection.

Court filings revealed last week that 16 Trump allies involved in creating an alternate 2020 presidential elector slate from Georgia were notified they could face charges in the ongoing investigation led by Willis. Lawyers for some of the fake presidential electors are attempting to quash subpoenas sent to their clients.


Unlike a regular grand jury, the special grand jury will not issue any indictments, only recommendations. Those recommendations will be used to determine whether a regular grand jury is convened for the purpose of seeking criminal charges.

In addition to Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, and Graham, the Republican senator from South Carolina, Willis has in recent days subpoenaed another half-dozen former top aides or advisors to Trump.

Republicans, meanwhile, have said Willis’s investigation is politically motivated, citing a fund-raiser she hosted for the political opponent of one of the targets.

“Fani Willis has issued subpoenas to all the right people and properly issued target letters,” Tribe said".

cont:
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/georgia-gove...-1.1796563

 

Rep. Jody Hice Subpoenaed In Georgia Election Investigation
A number of high-ranking GOP state officials have already testified before the special grand jury.

"ATLANTA (AP) — Republican U.S. Rep. Jody Hice of Georgia has been subpoenaed to testify before a special grand jury that is investigating whether former President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to interfere in the 2020 election in the state.

The subpoena, which Hice received on June 29, orders him to appear before the special grand jury in Atlanta on Tuesday, his lawyer said in a court filing. That filing seeks to have the matter heard in federal court rather than before the Fulton County Superior Court judge who’s overseeing the special grand jury.

“Since Congressman Hice is a member of the United States House of Representatives and is being asked to testify pursuant to a state-issued subpoena, the federal officer removal statute should apply, and this action should therefore be removed” to federal court, attorney Loree Anne Paradise wrote in the filing Friday.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis opened an investigation early last year into whether Trump and his allies committed any crimes as they sought to overturn his narrow election loss in the state. A special grand jury with subpoena power was seated in May at her request.

A number of high-ranking Republican state officials — including Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Attorney General Chris Carr — have already testified before the special grand jury. Gov. Brian Kemp is set to give a sworn recorded statement on July 25.

Hice, who will leave office in January after an unsuccessful bid to unseat Raffensperger, was one of several GOP lawmakers who attended a December 2020 meeting at the White House in which Trump allies discussed various ways to overturn Joe Biden’s electoral win. Hice joined other members of the House Freedom Caucus, a conservative wing of the chamber, in the hourslong meeting to discuss with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows two specific strategies to subvert the election results.

The first was an effort to appoint an alternate slate of electors who would falsely declare Trump was the winner in seven battleground states won by Biden. The second was a plan to ramp up a pressure campaign against then-Vice President Mike Pence to disregard the true electoral votes from those seven states when he presided over the ceremonial certification process on Jan. 6, 2021.

Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Meadows, revealed the details of the White House meeting to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Earlier this month, Willis began a process to subpoena out-of-state witnesses to testify. That included some close Trump advisers and allies, including U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also served as Trump’s lawyer.

Graham has a hearing scheduled in federal court in South Carolina later this week to try to fight Willis’ attempt to get him to testify.

Willis, a Democrat, has indicted that she’s interested in the actions of the group of 16 Georgia Republicans who, acting as an alternate slate of electors, signed a certificate falsely stating that Trump had won the state when it was actually Biden who got the most votes."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jody-hice...6f21bed36a

Early life and education

'Hice is a native of Atlanta and received his Bachelor of Arts degree from Asbury College in Wilmore, Kentucky, a Master of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, and a Doctor of Ministry degree from Luther Rice Seminary in Atlanta, Georgia.[3]

Early career

"Until April 2010, Hice was senior pastor of Bethlehem First Baptist Church[4] in Bethlehem, Georgia. In addition, he was first vice president of the Georgia Baptist Convention (2004–05) and Professor of Preaching at Luther Rice Seminary. Hice was senior pastor at The Summit Church, a Southern Baptist church, in Loganville, Georgia, from 2011 until December 2013, when he stepped down to run for office.

Hice started Let Freedom Ring, a talk radio show originally heard on WIMO 1300 AM, Bethlehem, Georgia."[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jody_Hice

 

Georgia prosecutor knocks Lindsey Graham's subpoena challenge

"A Georgia prosecutor on Thursday hit back at Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) for challenging a subpoena to testify before the special grand jury investigating former President Trump’s election meddling attempts in the state.

In a Thursday court filing, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) said Graham’s challenge is “built on the shifting sands of erroneous legal arguments, inapplicable legal principles, and citations to caselaw that fail to support any legal point being made.”

Graham renewed his efforts to resist the subpoena earlier this week, asking the Georgia federal district court to expedite hearing his challenge.

His legal team argued in a court filing that the subpoena would set a precedent allowing “other county officials in locales across the country to impose similar burdens on federal officials, of whatever party, to the detriment of our federal government and the federalism that protects it from state and local interference.”

cont:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-prosecutor-knocks-lindsey-graham-195919521.html

 

I believe the pivot point is going to be that he was aware that Pence could not legally or Constitutionally overturn or reject the states' reported totals PRIOR to his rally speech.

Therefore, as what is happening in Jones' case, where does Freedom of Speech become Hate Speech and what harm/damages were caused by them?

He and Rudy called Senator Lee to urge him to stop the certification and tweeted a repeat of his earlier lie about Pence DURING the mob attack and breach.

I think about those officers and their families. Surely, some of them were Trump supporters. I'm not fond of politicians, in general, but NOBODY deserves to have their leader abandon them in a crisis (especially one he caused). He never made it a secret that he didn't care about those of us that didn't vote for him but he turned a deaf ear to Republican lawmakers trapped inside. It breaks my heart.

Reckless disregard for human life. Either he is a monster or a psychopath. Neither is fit for office.

 

I think it's pretty complicated. I doubt any one element of Trump's actions so far revealed is clearly illegal if he can hide behind the fig leaf that he really believed the election was stolen. (I'm not sure if that would be a legitimate defence given all the officials telling him he was wrong. Does a wilful disregard for the truth torpedo that defence?). If he could be tied directly to the instigation of the fake electors scheme, possibly that. He's good at CMA: that one line at the end of his speech about 'peacefully and patriotically' gives him a bit of cover, even though that tweet about Pence, ignoring the violence, rather contradicts it. His conduct was obviously despicable, but illegal? I don't know.

 

Link:

The “Willfull Ignorance” Doctrine Will Be Trump’s Downfall — SMERCONISH

 

Interesting, thanks.

 

This gem never gets old.

 

And Lindsey loses again.... 8/23.... Prepare for more 5th Amendment claims

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-sen-graham-must-testify-125815026.html

Like all MAGA's, I'm sure he'll appeal, if appeals are still available....

 

Losers like losing... or at least are used to it

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lindsey-graham-vows-appeal-federal-161359637.html

 

This just in.... Sweaty Rudy has now been informed he's now a target of the Fulton County investigation....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...t-georgia-election-investigation/10330453002/

Rudy's been seen in his hotel room practicing taking the 5th... and tucking his shirt into his pants...

 

This is going to get even more fun for the Trump team. Seems they were caught making illegal copies of voter info. !!!
I hope GA makes an example of them.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgi...of-trump-attorney/XCPM33PXC5ABJN6UXG645EXLM4/
The GBI confirmed Tuesday that it has opened a criminal investigation of the incident on Jan. 7, 2021, when the group flew from Atlanta to South Georgia and were given access by local election officials to equipment that was supposed to be kept secure from outsiders. Computer trespass is a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

 

Yeah, I just saw a segment on YouTube about the Michigan AG investigating this. These kooky crooks sure felt entitled with the Orange Gangster in the Oval.

 

Yep, this makes 3 confirmed states (and possibly Nevada) where MAGA accessed elections equipment/databases illegally.....

I wouldn't want to be a GQP running in any of those potentially compromised districts, because their election WILL be rightly suspect... due to GQP actions..

 

I thought the 2020 elections was clean though! Obviously throw the bag at the culprits if they're found guilty of the act, but its remarkable that both sides were ready to call foul, and Biden called foul on the mid-terms like a year and a half before they even began.

How about instead of calling foul, both sides play the game fair?

 

The elections WERE as clean as any election in a country this size with likely a dozen different voting systems can be... it's all this SHITTY post election illegal GQP activity in Col, Mich, Ga, Nev, ?,?,? that is going to put future elections in question in certain areas...

Congrats ...... you've actually created the problem that wasn't there in 2020.

 

I didn't. I didn't even vote, let alone be an election poll worker ha . But here's the thing: Republicans had long believed(whether fallaciously or not) that democrats cheat, so why shouldn't Republicans? And when we get to this point of law and politics intermingling, it's never a good thing.

And we should be trying to find a way to resolve that. I would be all for voter expansion, but I also agree with the fundamental idea that US citizens should be doing the voting. If we remember, Democrats also agreed we don't want outside influence(aka: Russiegate). So I'll restate my endorsement plan: Use Social Security as the basis for every voting card in America. That way, race, class, income, etc doesn't matter and everyone is entitled to the same one vote. Now whether everyone actually votes is a different matter and I disagree with a forced Australia voting system, I think it actually damages 'democracy' to have such a system of enforcement.

 

Wasn't sure you were aware non citizens can get a Social Security card

https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/questions-answers/ss-card-non-citizen.html

But that's not remotely the largest potential problem with voting in this country. The problem, as I stated, is not having a single standard voting system in this country. Flipping ridiculous.... Same early voting dates, same machines, similar ballot designs, etc etc etc.

I don't care what it is, but I'd push for paper ballots and voter ID, as we do here in Virginia...

 

Hopefully GA will follow through the legal process.

 

Here's another GOP who can't be bothered to defend an investigation into possible lawbreaking in his state.... Yup, the Gov...

It WAS reported he did a video testimony last month, which sounded suspect to me in the first place.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/governor-office-files-kill-subpoena-202358943.html

Show up and answer 1 day of questions about your 'limited involvement", Bri-Guy.....

Fani should have no problem agreeing to his terms that "ensure the topics discussed during his appearance remains on his defense of state law and the Constitution in the aftermath of the 2020 election.”

Nobody really cares what else he'd have to say....

 

That would be nice, but a politician showing transparency. !!!