Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    The outcome. Ukraine will lose the whole Donbass and complete access to the Black Sea. Kiew and Lviv (stolen from the Poles) will be called Ukraine.
     
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    I believe 33....Stop minimizing the Russian losses. Only the Ghost downed 7 Russian fighter jets in a single day. Astonishing.
     
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    Genocide would have been a better and more accurate choice of words, and it's about time people started acknowledging what is actually happening there. What Putin wants is to destroy Ukraine.
     
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    Only an idiot would take that seriously...
     
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    When Russkies start treating the Ukrainians the same way Ukrainians treated the Russian minority in Ukraine after the coup in 2014 then we could possibly call it genocide. Of course, Ukraine is going to be broken down into two very different countries. The western part and the eastern part. If Ukrainians get lucky, they may get access to the Black Sea. They listened to crazy neocons and lost half of their country forever.
     
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    Paranoids are very dangerous people because they do to others what they believe others are doing to them. So let's see now:

    1 - The US and Nato broke up Yugoslavia and invaded and bombed Belgrade illegally for 78 days on false premises;

    2 - Invaded and destroyed Iraq illegally, causing the death of over a million people.

    3 - Bombed and destroyed Libya illegally under the pretext of establishing a no fly zone.

    4 - Invaded and occupied Syria while stealing its oil under a pretext that it's fighting ISiS while supporting ISIS to overthrow Assad.

    Doesn't seem to me that the destructive paranoid is Russia, but rather the other way around.
     
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    Funnily enough you took it seriously enough to reply.
     
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    I take the time to mock a lot of bullshit around here.
     
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    VATNIK-FLAG SM.jpg

    Bless your heart.

    As Vlad the Invader continues his attempt to finish what Stalin started it will be called genocide right now. And we're talking about the real kind like the Holodomor, not the phony one Putin and his flying Internet monkeys chatter about.

    By the way, the 2000s called and they want their "neocons" psychobabble back.
     
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    Read your own link:

    Though given some of the comments from Vladimir Putin's adviser on Ukraine Sergei Glazyev - for example his interview with the Kommersant-Ukraine newspaper the other day - you don't need your own listening station to be clear about Russia's intentions. Russia he said "must interfere in Ukraine" and the authorities there should use force against the demonstrators.

    Lovely.
     
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    It takes two to tango. No one ever denied that Russia tried to protect their own interest in Ukraine. However, the neocons are directly responsible for the whole mess in Ukraine. There wasn't any need to go all the way to Russian borders.
     
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    Then surely you must now that millions of white Christian Russians perished in Stalin's gulags. Millions. Plus millions were exiled. An average American is not intelligent enough to distinguish between USSR and Russia.
     
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    You certainly are determined to side with Russia in this matter. Why?
     
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    There is no any other choice. I do believe that those lunatics in Washington DC (neocons and their allies) were up to something so sinister that Putin decided to take over large part of Ukraine as a defensive measure. Preemptive strike. You do realise that we are headed towards unthinkable. Sleepwalking into unspeakable tragedy.
     
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    Why would you believe such a facially absurd thing? Why be so paranoid about our national leaders? What information could possibly lead you to believe this?
     
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    Ukraine jets hit Russian column; Russia has used thermobarics, Ukraine military says
    Howard Altman
    Wed, March 2, 2022, 7:15 AM

    This story has been updated with new information from the Pentagon and United Nations.

    Ukraine armed forces have been striking that long line of Russian troops heading to Kyiv while the Russians have used thermobaric weapons against Ukrainian cities, the head of Ukraine’s defense intelligence agency tells Military Times.

    “We are striking the enemy’s columns,” Brig. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told Military Times in an exclusive interview Wednesday morning. “We burn many columns of the enemy.”

    The strikes, he said, are being conducted by Ukraine Su-24 and Su-25 fighter jets, artillery and missile barrages.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-jets-hit-russian-column-131510676.html

    **** yeah! :machinegun:
     
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    I thought those big explosions in Kyiv were an indication of something big going on.
    Ukrainians are butchering Russian troops right now and all they can do is bomb civilians!
    :machinegun:Russia!
     
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    I actually think the outcome will be Ukraine regaining control of all of its territory. :lol:
     
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    The USA does not care about the world. The USA is run once again by the military industrial complex. What is happening in Ukraine is a child play, kindergarten in comparison to humanitarian catastrophe that has happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen etc...Millions died, millions displaced, all know international laws broken and no one has ever being held accountable. Why being surprised?
     
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    I’m just relaying the numbers reported by Ukrainian side. ;)
     
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    The Ukrainian Nazis know that they are unpopular prompting them to install Zelensky with a fake persona as a Jewish comedian--except it is not reported that Zelensky is also a LAWYER, and former CEO of his own media network.

    Experienced Ukrainian political operatives have already infiltrated the U.S. ("Luxury cars, MAGA flags and Facebook invites: How an unknown Idaho family of Ukrainian immigrates organized the Portland rally that turned deadly."). The U.S. Capital Jan. 6, 2022 was modeled on the The Ukrainian Maiden Coup of 2014--and it almost worked (The Link From MAGA Riot To White Supremacy In U.S. Policing.).

    Don't believe anything the Ukrainian government or the American media propaganda claims while they agitate for war fever.

    Even if we assume Zelensky is Jewish....there is evidence that Hitler had some Jewish heritage. In fact, there were some high level Nazi officers of Jewish heritage. So Zelensky's heritage is irrelevant and is only being used as propaganda to project a false persona.

    Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu is Jewish, but he is also the best friend forever to the fascist Donald Trump who has publicly praised Hitler! All members of Congress knew of Trumps' mafia/fascist background just as they know that fascists are influential in the Ukrainian government.

    Bernstein: Top US general compared Trump to 'Hitlerian fascism'

    Former President Barack Obama is a black American who pretended to speak in the cadence of MLK, but sold out all Americans by surrendering to the crypto-Nazis in the U.S. Right- Wing Congress which has further degraded into a mafia/fascist whore house. Obama is as insulting to the Progressive Democrats as Biden is today and they are proud of it.

    Obama's ethnicity was used to hide from his political constituency his Neo-liberal political beliefs--and it worked! Obama and Biden were so intimidated by the fascist right that they both failed to protect the American people and the US Constitution. All the lies, crimes, frauds, and war crimes committed by the W. Bush Administration were codified into bureaucratic policies by Obama, and normalized thereby providing the foundation for the fascist generated violence occurring today.

    Charlottesville: Race and Terror
     
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    You have very inaccurate ideas about this country, and you are unfairly blaming us for how messed up those countries are.
     
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    This is comically bad propaganda. You need to go back to the drawing board, comrade.
     
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    3. “ZELENSKIY VISITING THE TROOPS”

    Possibly no politician in history has had a PR makeover quite as fast as Vlodomyr Zelenskiy. Last week he was just some guy, this week he’s a war hero, there’s talk of building statues of the man. A (not at all staged) “leaked” phone call had him turning down the US offer of an airlift to safety.

    Twitter is dotted with people sharing photos of him in combat fatigues, comparing him favourably to Trump and Trudeau and asking “what other leaders would fight alongside their troops?”



    But the problem with that is the photos are all almost a year old, taken when he visited the troops last April:
     
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