Russia Suspends Memorandum With US on Flight Safety in Syria - Foreign Ministry

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  1. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

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    I wonder, what kind of poll in my country have used word 'pindos'. I assume same kind of polls that use words 'chin', 'khach', 'moskal', 'khohol' and 'niggеr'.

    I do not approve, when people twist facts. I twice as hard do not approve this, when see this pathetic flaw in my fellow citizens.

    Poll uses derogatory slang, no actual number of voted presented, and the ways the options of poll formulated gives an idea that this likely is some a childish, unofficial, nonmattering poll on some random website or VKontakte group.

    Using such kind of material is not worthy of Russian.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Why do you think that out of 59 missiles fired from American ships, only 23 flew in? Moreover, the flying missiles did not cause any harm.

    Here is a map with the missile hit points.

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    You can notice neither the airstrip is undamaged. All planes are intact. Only 6 planes were broken, which were prepared for scrap. Not even aircraft that were standing on the open ground did not suffer. Not in hangars.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    You tell this for thief Navalny.
     
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  4. Ninian

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    And I thought we were through.

    He is a politcian. He has right to express his views and concerns. People have right to express THEIR concerns. Government is not expected to be always 100% satisfying for population. For that exist freedom of speech, right to gather, and right to express opinions. Don't like it - make a petition for abolishment of these rights.
     
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  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You think so? You going to war with us over Assad, the baby butcher?

    Your call.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Ahahaha :roflol::roflol::roflol:... "Freedom of speech." All thieves like to talk about "freedom of speech". Such as Navalny, twice convicted thief-recidivist.
    And he is not a politician. He is a thief and a prostitute. At first he was a liberal and consisted in the party of the feeble-minded Yavlinsky. Then he was a nationalist or even more a fascist. And he called - enough to feed the Caucasus. All Caucasians must be killed. Now he is a "human rights activist" on the maintenance In the US embassy. Same a lying scoundrel and a thief as Nemtsov.
     
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    If you attack, then certainly.
     
  8. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Putin's been working deals with Chinese for a couple of years now and he's been QUITE successful so far
    Links:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/25/russias-putin-gains-strategic-victory-with-chinese/
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...inas-ties-with-russia-during-putin-trade-trip
    http://www.dw.com/en/russian-president-vladimir-putin-signs-trade-deals-in-china/a-19356814

    The military cooperation and joint exercises that both Russia and China have participated in together are impressive in scope also:
    Links:
    https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pdffiles/PUB1266.pdf
    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/...-china-sea-russia-military-exercise/87651530/
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/12/asia/china-russia-south-china-sea-exercises/

    BTW, as it stands today, Russia is the Number #2 military power in the world, and China is Number #3.... Draw your own conclusions....
     
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    Yes, if I had a "very small loan" of $14 million ($32 million in today's dollars), from daddy I could grow a fortune too. Just like Trump did.
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...bout-trumps-very-small-14-million-loan-228709
     
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    This insane Obama supporters continue the policy of confrontation. Instead of building mutually beneficial, equitable relations between countries. For the common good and development.
    I was sincerely happy when Trump won. I thought that now there was a chance to establish a good relationship between our peoples .... but .... aggressive madmen Followers of Obama could defeat Trump. I'm very regret about it.
     
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    I hardly care. Freedom of speech exists, and right to express concerns exists. If I have them - I express them, and so I did. Got a problem with that - make petition. Abolish the freedom of speech. If. You. Can.

    If not - learn to live with it.


    And if you want to establish some sort of friendly relations - try to antagonise people less, and discuss in a civilized, and respectful manner - so people can actually talk, instead of spending time pointing at the mistakes. As I said - I expect better from people of my nation, and sincerely want them to be better than any other human being in the world. Not proclaiming themselves better, but being better - or striving to be.
     
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    Shocker, a personal attack to try to deflect the positive things Trump has done with his life and the "cards he was dealt". A higher percentage of those given such a large amount of money squander it, when compared to those who are successful. The multiple that trump has managed is far above that of those put in a similar situation.

    I know you "Never-Trumpers" will use any example to attack him personally, but on this on I agree with the other poster in saying that "Trump's life has a much higher level of influence and success than Obama.
     
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    I think even Putin has better sense than that. You're on no moral high ground, defending Assad, nor given Russia's history in Georgia and Ukraine. Also, not only have you got nothing there, but your military is also not comparable to the US military, especially where force projection is concerned. Defensively, Russia no doubt has potent force, though far from unbeatable.

    Not that the US has any interest in attacking Russia, I'm sure. Assad and IS are the issues of the day. Even Putin isn't using chemical weapons on people...
     
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    It's politics. PEOPLE care about moral highground, politics do not. At least, very-very-very rarely they do.

    Also, I assure you - you greatly underestimate how complicated situation in post-soviet states, when it comes to public and territorial integrity. A lot, LOT more complicated than you think - so please, don't make haste judging. Ever.

    What do you mean by 'even', we are part of the Convention of 1992. Basically, that year we are literally finishing destroying last of the chemical weapons on territory of RF. Again, be more critical to information you're given by media. You would be surprised, how many things Putin has NOTHING to do with.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention
     
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    They've already been attacked...for several years now! Only a matter of time before Assad dangles or is forced to run!
     
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    They're trying to protect their small base at Tartus, and if Assad was taken out, would bet Putin would do nothing!
     
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    Those may be interesting points, but remains to be seen in the long run, there's still unforeseen geopolitical issues down the road and anything can change. I can see China surpassing for #2, if not already.
     
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    I tend to agree. That's all Russia ever gets really excited about - warm water ports. Hence Crimea and Syria.
     
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    Seems the usual wishful thinking of the ones cursed with Russiaphobic DNA's. Well I have news for you, Putin is an old fashion man with an old fashion sense of honor. He considers loyalty the greatest virtue, and he said that Assad will remain as long as the Syrian people want him to remain. If the US wants to get rid of Assad they will have to go to war with Russia. ..which they are planning to do, otherwise why are they preparing for boots on the ground?

    I have a suspicion though that this has nothing to do with Syria and the false flag attack, and everything to do with Russia going off the American dollar. Russia and China are now going on the gold standard ...as Ghadaffy tried to do in Africa, before they destroyed Libya and killed him. Russia will also trade with China in gold ...which they both have plenty of, as do other countries such as India.

    This might not seem like anything, but as long as the American dollar is used in the swift system to transfer funds from one place to another, the US makes money. More important though, it enables the US to keep tract of every transaction in the world. Without that power, sanctions would become useless.

    To facilitate the change from a system based on the dollar, a separate swift system has been formed by Russia that will split the world in two.
    Anyway, I'm just speculating here, I don't know that much about it.
     
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    I think it's always better to check any information. Propaganda works on both sides.
    What the airstrip wasn't hit is strange. Looks like Americans didn't aim at it.
     
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    Your homeland is Syria? Then go there and die.
     
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    You will never understand Russian psychology, even if you operate on truthful facts. And if you believe in a lie, then you will not understand anything at all.
     
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    Russians are afraid to lose Atlantic warm water ports. It's no great mystery.
     
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    You could be right. Russia has only one passageway to and from "warm-water" ports -- the Dardanelles and the Bosporus Straits, up to the Black Sea. We could interdict traffic through both of them, I suppose, but then the Turks would go absolutely bug-eyed crazy! Nobody who depends on passage into the Black Sea would be at all happy, either, and that would involve both Ukraine and Russia, among others.

    In the Eastern Mediterranean, Russia does have a logistical advantage, clearly, over either the U. S. or Europe. But, as the hours pass and nothing else happens, I am more and more convinced that this whole "Syria" thing was just an interesting entertainment put on for Xi's benefit, and indirectly, for the edification of Putin, Kim Jong-un, and the delusional, somewhat crazed Islamo-priests in Tehran....
     
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    Do you think that any solutions have only one reason? :)
     

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