Russia Threatens Norway to Stay Out of NATO Missile Defense

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Craig is not referring to Donald Trump who we all thought would have the strength to fight the neo con war mongers. The decisions of the State Department were made during the Clinton administration and even before with the Wolfowitz Doctrine.

    Either Trump caved to them because they are so embedded that it was impossible to fight them, or Trump deceived us and didn't plan on doing so from the start.

    An example that Trump is now following the same policy of false flag attacks and lies as the previous administrations, would be the chemical attack in Syria. No matter how much Assad and Russia insist on having neutral international observers examine the area, the US and its cohorts like France and Britain refuse. They insist on their own analysis based on the White Helmets which are part of the terrorist group Al Nusra...
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And risk being in their crosshairs by aiming missiles at Russia when they have no missiles aimed at Norway?

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    NATO’s military infrastructures are advancing in the Arctic and an advanced training site for NATO’s contingents was created in northern Norway. Trump previously said NATO is obsolete but he's now listening to his military advisers who are pro-NATO. Russia recently unveiled its RS-28 Sarmat thermonuclear-armed ballistic missile system. Satan 2 is capable of destroying a country the size of “France or Texas”.

     
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    Great statesmanship by the Don..:)
    He only said it to scare the minor NATO countries and kickstart them into pay their membership fees, which they're now doing..:)
     
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    Because of Siberia and its continental shelf, most of the reserves in the Arctic belong to Russia. The US owns a chunk because of Alaska, Canada owns a lot, and Denmark because of Greenland. Russia has signed agreements with Norway, so there weren't any problems unless now the US wants it challenged.

    Russia sent to the UN all the scientific papers towards their claims years ago. The others haven't conducted any research in response towards delineating the boundaries which is an ominous sign, so Russia is building bases all over its territories.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    still sty to sell useless Muscovite PROP IN the name of greater kumakstan with capital in Batumi? even we all have seen how they failed so badly ?

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    Mar 30, 2017 - The Voronezh Mechanical Plant has sent 71 Proton-M launch vehicle ... in combining less-fusible metals) that did not contain precious metals, ...

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    Feb 1, 2017 - Metal thieves halt Russian space rocket programme ... Workers building the Proton rocket engines replaced alloys with less ... “They knew perfectly what their actions could have resulted in ... LOL))


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    Putin rolls out the big guns: Russia deploys advanced 'Growler' anti-aircraft missile system in Syria able to hit jets at an altitude of up to 90,000 feet as far away as Tel Aviv



      • Photographs from Russia's Syrian base appear to show advanced weapon
      • The SA-21 Growler can hit high-flying aircraft at a range of 250 miles
      • The missile can cover most of Syria and much of the eastern Mediterranean
      • It may even be able to target British jets using RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus
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    The S-400 missile can reach 400 km, and as high as 27 km. The radar has a range of 600 km. (RT)

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    LOL))) BUMS FROM AFRO- ASIA , SOMALI WITH DEFECTED PROTONS vs. NORWAY AND NATO ))
     
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    That's how it is. Get used to it.

    Russian missiles can be aimed anywhere. So can ours.
    You have them, we are in range of them. Therefore a missile defence is wanted.

    Unilaterally disarm and we will remove them as they are costly and we would rather buy other things with our money..
     
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    sure. "rujsski mir", sure
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    10 000 NWS is a myth, and Kremlin propaganda, here a well-known Muscovite expert talk about Muscovite NWS today, you have to understand Muscovy today has technological level of Nigeria or P-stan

     
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    This missile defense system will do nothing to secure Norway, other than indirectly, by giving the US more of a reason to strike back at Russia, if Russia ever tried to disable it.

    The US want their missile system here to secure themselves. And that's fair enough, since we are dependent on their conventional forces to secure us, so maybe it makes sense to place a missile defense system here. Although it's not very effective, and will probably not stop anywhere near enough nukes to render the Russian nuclear deterrence impotent.

    But by placing a missile system here, we're also painting a bulls eye on ourselves, in case hostilities between the US and Russia ever breaks out.

    Basically, the best solution would be no ICBM defense system, but strong national armed forces, while keeping a strong alliance with the other Nordics, and an almost equally strong alliance with the Anglosphere, while at the same time going for good relations with Russia, France and Germany.
     
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    Ahahaha... Yes... Kumakistan with Batumi capitol...

    I love you litwo... :)))
     
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    Good evening, goody, I see you have a fun here :-D Meanwhile I had a wonderful baklava and excellent coffee today in a Turkish cafe in Kreuzberg in Berlin.
     
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    Don't tell me you went to "Defne Cafe"...
     
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    No, no, I know Defne- they offer delicios Turkish food, but this is kind of a restaurant. I was in a small cafeteria. :)
     
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    What one I wonder?
     
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    Litwin, I don't want anything to happen to you,so sit down while I break the news: The U.S. Uses Russian Rockets to Launch Its Satellites.

    Okay, okay, I'm sorry I told you, now sit down and take deep breath and you'll be fine.

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    I love Turkish food. They had a great one here in Boca, but he sold it. Why did he have to do that?
     
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    Mexican and Chinese are hard to compete with in restaurant business in the US, especially when you got little or no Turkish community around.
     
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    i know) do you agree that c-400/300 , Protons are fakes, props?
     
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    Dude I don't know but if they are somehow disabled when Israeli planes fly, thats no good.
     
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    what got disabled when Turmp´s tomahawks visited Assad and his fiends?
     
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    Decoys Litwin. They look like the real thing from the air.
    Inside they have a petrol powered air blower that creates heat and makes it look the real thing on FLIR,

    This serves a few useful purposes, one: to misdirect an enemy from your real installations. Two: to get him to fly into an ambush.
    3: to misdirect military planners into your actual strength or area of deployment.

    Decoys are cheaper than the missiles they fire at them.

    In the Balklans campaign, NATO air-forces claimed hundred of ground kills on Serb armour.. When ground forces arrived, they found none. Zero.
    Likewise in the Gulf War, after a few months of aerial bombardment the air-forces claimed to destroyed all Saddams tanks.
    When the ground forces got there, the bulk of them were still entirely operational.

    In WW2 decoys such as these were used to fool aerial reconnaissance. Fake armies were deployed to show an army staging for invasion on a different front to that which the actual invasion was being planned. Drawing off Hitler's forces from the real assault.

    Russian tank commanders have been equipped with radar decoys since the fifties.
    Apache pops up from behind the tree line, scans for targets. Radar detects four targets. Tanks.
    Apache launches 4 missiles.

    4 explosions, 4 unharmed decoys... and the one tank hiding in the shed nearby, now knows the position of his enemy. He fires back.
     
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    Litwin, if you can look at it without falling into a stupor, there's an outline of Russia's electronic weaponry on Tass:

    http://tass.com/defense/942027
     
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    26 aeroplanes I think. 1/3 of the Syrian air force.
     
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    and what has happened with putler´s c-400/300?
     

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