Russia vows to stop USA from "taking over Ukraine".

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  1. yabberefugee

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    Is that a dodge or do you have corn cobbs between your ears? Why did Brandon stop our pipeline?
    Actually, Brandon is considering reinstating whatever power Trump used to stop their delivery of natural gas.
     
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    Ukraine is a bunch of little “countries,regions, and tribes that had lines drawn making it a country. Putin only eants a peace for now, my guess is better access to the black sea.
    Too bad. Call your Chinese buddies.
     
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    Stop our pipeline? What are you talking about? That one from Canada?

    Do you imagine that it is somehow relevant to the North Stream 2 pipeline?

    Why didn't the orange retard stop it? He had four years and failed miserably. Germany told him to hau ab because he was too stupid to do diplomacy.
     
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    Does Angola build rocket engines? Or aircraft?
     
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    Russia already has access to the Black Sea. I’m pretty sure that if Russia was interested in a good sea port, it could have build it on its territory for all the money it wasted on this war and it would probably still have some saved up.
    I think Putin hopes to build USSR 2.0 to make it into Russian history books. He controls Belarus and Khazakstan. He gets Ukraine in and he gets the most important parts of old USSR fall back into place. I don’t see what’s the point in any of this, but he is an ex-KGB agent, so who knows what’s in that rotten brain of his.
     
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    Quote - "Did the USA start the Korean war? I thought it was the Communist north invading the south."

    Methinks you are confusing 'divide' with 'invade.'
     
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    Curious that you would call colonialism a 'Capitalistic idea'
    Colonialism doesn't need Capitalism - look at Lenin attacking Poland to try and start WW2.
    Or China creating 'islands' in the South China Sea.
    Or the great Bantu-Zulu conquest of Southern Africa
    Or the Comanche empire in southern USA, northern Mexico.
    Or the Aztecs, the Tongans, the Taiwanese etc..

    In Sth Vietnam the Buddhist monks were respected for keeping out of politics. Not so after
    that event. And recall the poor naked girl, hit by US napalm? That girl was struck by Sth Viet
    napalm when the old Imperial city of Hue was taken back from the Nth Vietnames - the people
    who the 'peace movement' said were not in the South. And in Hue they uncovered hundreds
    of mutilated bodies, some buried alive, in a trench down the main road of the city. These poor
    people bore the brunt of anger of the ARVN when they did not rise up in Marxist revolt. And
    it never became an issue. Same as the tens of millions dying over the Chinese border in their
    own Maoist 'cultural revolution' where the past, religion, private property and culture had to be
    destroyed - kind of like what neo-Marxists are doing in America.
     
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    This is nonsense. No one in Russia is building the USSR 2.0. It is being built by a few crazy deputies. There is no USSR 2.0. And keeping Ukraine as part of Russia is absolutely not economically feasible

    Ukraine withdrew from all trade and military ties after 2014, and as we can see, Russia lives well without partnership with Ukraine. What Russia is offering is Ukraine's neutrality in terms of military alliances. Does Ukraine want to join the European Union? Let it go. Trade with it will take place on the terms of trade with the European Union. No whining about high gas and energy prices. No relief in duties. What Russia wants is to respect the rights and freedoms of people who speak Russian. Ukraine is a former part of the USSR, and there are a lot of Russian speakers there. The use of force, as in the Donbass, is not permissible. That's what Russia wants.
     
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    Lenin died in 1924.
     
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    Oh... it suddenly is not about the Russian pipeline, but about an American pipeline.
    Since it's totally not related to the subject: how about you go find that one out yourself?
    And I doubt Keystone was about natural gas.
     
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    Me thinks you're playing shenanigans that when the US shows up with it's soldiers that it's not invading but just "dividing".... while it was rather straightforward invasion.
     
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    Thank you. It's right.

    Hi all!
     
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    Because colonialism is all about exploiting human and natural resources through violent oppression and draining away the profits.... and that's rather capitalistic. While communism is where all men are equal and profits are shared. That's how you get that communists ends up fighting colonialist oppression.


    I do believe Poland wasn't made to give Lenin anything, unlike how things went down in Vietnam when it was ruled under thug French colonial rule.

    That has nothing to do with colonialism.
    Taiwan was part of China before their civil war.
    Taiwan's government still calls what they got "China".
    The mainland China calls it part of China.
    So it's not a colony of any kind.

    Yeah.. they were so respected that one just killed himself out of pure desperation. Do note. Them Buddhist monks are a very solid and profoundly present part of their rather deeply devoted society. And that napalm was given by Americans to terrorist. It was on par with what the US did: rather genocidal. The people who got caught slaughtering around in My Lai received just 3 years of house arrest.. and that house was a massive military base with malls and theatres.

    The Vietnamese civilians suffered incredible under the genocidal campaign. They still suffer to the WMD's the US used against them civilians. The chemical waste that got dumped in the US of that WMD war cost 1.4 billion bucks to clear up. It's unimaginably how much damage the US did to Vietnam and it's civilians who got bombed more extensively then WWII. Damage done by a bunch an army that mostly contained a bunch of racist and drug addicted thugs.
     
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    Korea was divided into north and south.
    Stalin installed a Communist govt in the north - yes, the one with the appalling human rights record,
    the same nation just appointed to some 'nuclear non-proliferation' UN forum - an act of third world
    mockery of our institutions.
    With Stalin's go-ahead North Korea invaded South Korea in what became the 'Korean war.'
    Had not America stupidly declared it would not use nuclear weapons then China would have kept
    out of Korea, and the UN would have sent the Nth Korean communists on an extended holiday in
    China and Russia - and saved the lives of millions of Nth Koreans though famines and gulags.
     
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    I love it, I love it.
    A 'neutral' Ukraine with 100,000 Russian troops in it - busy hunting down wanted Ukrainians.
     
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    100,000 soldiers who are on their own territory? are they not allowed to be on their own territory?
     
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    Curiously, I mention Commanches and Bantus because I am part Bantu, and related by marriage (only) to
    Cynthia Parker, the white girl kidnapped by Commanches in Texas. Her son was the famous Quanah Parker.

    The Commanches had the cruellest colonialism - torture was their forte. They nearly reached Mexico City.
    Of course the worst colonials were the Mongols who killed over 11% of all humans alive at that time.
    The last colonials are the current ones - Russia invading Ukraine and her neghbors, and China taking on
    Vietnam, India, Phillipines, Brunei, Indonesia, Taiwan... and still occupying Tibet. No Capitalism anywhere.

    And Communism is a two part part system - the Rulers and the Ruled. No opposition is tolerated. At its height
    Communism ruled one third of the world's population. It's not called 'colonialism' of course, but that is what it
    is, Communist Colonialism. And it's still going on.
     
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    No, Russian soldiers are not allowed in the Ukraine.
    Do you see 100,000 American soldiers on the Canadian border?
     
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    I see American troops on the border with Mexico
    Do you see 100,000 Russian soldiers on the Belarus border?
    or maybe Canadians are killing peaceful Americans who want to speak English, not French?
    You have a strange logic, when Al-Qaeda blew up the twin towers, America bombed an entire country, when Chechen terrorists blew up several houses in Russia, took hostages at a school (!) and a theater, after which Russia sent troops into Chechnya - this is a violation of some rights there
     
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    Because the US invaded the country, where you said they did not.
     
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    Yeah, the UN would have sent)
    I wonder if you know the meaning of the word GULAG?
     

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    Yeah wel. I read on facebook that it aint true.

    You're really out of line here with the most dumbest of comparisons.
    The Dutch invented the stockmarket in the 1600's to specifically make it easy to invest into their colonial empire.
    It was pure capitalism back than. It was capitalism back in the 1950's when the French had their war in Vietnam.
    And the communist fought against it.

    There is no such thing as "communist colonialism". The capitalist did it. And all things is included like kicking out elected governments, and installing fascist murderous puppets to do your bidding for your economical gains. The US is no stranger to that AT ALL!
     
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    In his opinion, the dead Lenin invaded Poland, starting the Second World War, what do you want from him?
     
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    In his opinion, that is "communistic colonialism".
    Utter complete nonsense.
     
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    Amazing what you learn on Facebook.
     

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