Russia vows to stop USA from "taking over Ukraine".

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They are training civilians for real urban warfare.

 

Yah...wooden rifles.

I don't think you suddenly put an AR15 into someone's hands who've never even held one ..let alone fired one. Accidents happen....accidentally discharge,misfire, shoot someone,shoot yourself? When I was in basic training...I was first given a brief mockup of how to handle before putting an M16 in my hands.

Have you ever fired anything...?

 

A false narrative not interesting enough to discuss.

 

So, then let it be known - this member faults Ukraine for making their pro-independence fighter from the times of WWII, Bandera, a national hero, calls him a nazi war criminal, and yet failed to list any war crimes committed by that individual, or committed by anyone under that individuals meaningful command. This member is looking for their own confirmation bias, not the truth, and is spreading Russian lies and propaganda.

 

But no chemical weapons have been found in Iraq.

 

Yes, and . . . ?

 

It's the only narrative senate got when they went on a fact finding mission, and therefor it's the absolute prove until they find something else.
And so it remains the US intelligence remains a total joke when they announce what's up, since they can just as well parrot the will of the president without any facts.

 

It's not deniable he founded an organization that has the removing of civilians based on their ethnic background as a core policy.
And that organization he build, committed genocide and so complied with it's core policies of it's founder.
That makes the guy a war criminal.

It's the opinion of Poland and the Wiesenthal center. That's not "exactly" pro Russian propaganda.
You're just parroting far right wing nationalistic Ukrainian opinions. Let's be frank about that one.

 

So, he was an ideologue who wanted an independent Ukraine for Ukrainians. At the time when everyone was talking about ethnicities and races.

If Poland faults modern Ukraine for the past - why are they openly sending weapons to Ukraine to fight Russians?
And, if someone is a war criminal - where are the crimes? If Bandera was a real war criminal - why is there no proof of him doing the mass murders himself, or ordering his followers to kill innocent people? All you have is some organization putting a label “war criminal” on the guy without listing his crimes, and you are parroting that label without researching him yourself! What are the physical actions that were done by Bandera that earned him that label - the Nazi war criminal?

I’m not parroting anything - I’m posting truth in its modern context. Ukraine is not a country that is being ran by neo Nazis, and it does not persecute ethnic minorities.
Did you look at the election map of Ukraine from 2019? Yuriy Boyko was the only candidate who promoted normalization of relationship with Russia, the regions that supported him are shaded in light blue:


As you can see, even regions that are dominated by Russian language opted to vote for someone who was promoting anti-Russian rhetoric. Cities with heavy ethnic Russian presence, Kharkiv and Odessa, didn’t want to even talk with Russia without getting all Ukrainian territories back.
Your claims that Ukraine is a neo-nazi state that victimized ethnic Russians are a complete and utter BS!

 

You keep posting that map over and over but Zelensky couldn't be elected dog catcher if another election was held today. His popularity is on par or worse than Joe Biden. His act is over and everyone knows he is Igor Kolomoisky's puppet.

 

It’s not about Zelensky!
These people had a choice! They made their decision! Out of top 4 candidates, the only one who advocated friendship with Russia got a whooping 10% of the vote and their party has like 10% of the seats in Ukrainian parliament. The political fight in Ukraine wasn’t even about east vs west anymore - it was about how fast and how aggressive should Ukraine become with its integration with the West. Every 18 year old in Ukraine has seen Russia as a dangerous, lying aggressor for as long as they can remember themselves! Ethnic Russians in Ukraine spoke loud and clear what direction they support, something that would not happen if Ukraine was committing some sort of a genocide against ethnic Russians, your favorite piece of Russian propaganda.
There are no ethnic cleanings in Ukraine!
Ukrainian Russians do not want Ukraine to establish and maintain friendly relationship with Russia after Russia annexed Crimea and started the war in Donbas. What kind of an idiot would think that ethnic Russians themselves would be OK with their neighbor violating numerous treaties, invading, annexing, and starting a real war with real human bodies in their home country, and then lying about it to the whole world and their personal friends and relatives who live in Russia proper?

 

^^^^^^ That's one sad piece of propaganda.

How many dead bodies and mass graves will it take for you to stop?

Russia just needs to go ahead and take back the southern and eastern portions of 'ukraine' and be done with this nonsense. Then the western nationalists running the show can cement their ignorance and dream of their own master race....while piping and trucking everything in from the very expensive EU.

This is what will happen if Ukraine is armed:

 

What propaganda? I use the results of a democratic election that was verified as fair by everyone. I am not quoting someone’s opinions, I am not quoting results of a poll - I’m presenting the result of the actual election, an event where every citizen of Ukraine had an opportunity to express their will about the direction of their home country! How much more of a direct input do you want to prove that local Russians in Ukraine want nothing to do with Russia?
None of your claims about Ukraine and Russians in Ukraine have any basis in reality!

 

RT?


They should add a disclaimer: paid for and delivered by the government of Russia.

 

The official reason for the invasion of Iraq and the death of Saddam was precisely the discovery of the presence of chemical weapons, which was allegedly proven by Collin Powers when he shook a certain test tube from the UN podium. notme wrote everything correctly.

 

I am not reading you dispute that the gimp was the founder of an organization that had as a goal to remove non ethnic Ukrainians, and so they did by massacring civilians around.

You are still parroting the nationalistic far right ideals by emphasizing only the happy things a nazi collaborating war criminal accomplished for the good of Ukraine, while looking the other way he founded an organization that committed genocide.

You say that, while source that the parts of Ukraine close to Russia either did not vote or voted for a pro Russian approach. That's the part where predominantly ethnic Ukrainian Russians live.

I didn't say that. I stated they announced a nazi collaborating war criminal to be their national hero.... and so there is no moral high ground to be obtained when noting the de facto seceded parts of Ukraine are governed by far right wing criminals.