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Russian Defense lines collapsing in Donetsk Oblast.

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  1. Phyxius

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    They won't save one from a drone dropping an IED on their head...

     
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    Greeting the UAF with open arms is why there existed before the Russian invasion of the eastern part of Ukraine, for examples, The People's Republics of Luhansk and Donetsk?

    Greeting the UAF with open arms is why there's continuous shelling of the citizens of Luhansk and Donetsk by the Ukranian neo-fascist group Azov?
     
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    There is a difference between "Fact" and "State Sponsored Propaganda" mate. Time to learn :)
     
    Giftedone, Sep 28, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Sep 28, 2022
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  5. Jack Hays

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    Video Shows Counterattack That Led to Capture of 2 Russian Majors: Ukraine
     
    Jack Hays, Sep 28, 2022
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    There “you go again” the old QUANONISH refrain of AZOV did it. In your world did Azov break the pipeline!!
     
    PARTIZAN1, Sep 28, 2022
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    That news has at least a colonel (kernel ) of truth and is almost a major accomplishment generally speaking. Were they captured by privates under the supervision of sergeants! If they are exchanged for two captains will they receive corporal punishment !
     
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    Azov... lol
     
    Durandal, Sep 28, 2022
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    If they've been kept in good shape and you know how to set the sights and use windage? Sure.
    If you're a conscript with no training in any of that handed a rifle and a few clips (because they load with stripper clips) you're not going to be very effective.
     
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    Azov shelled Ukranian citizens in the east of Ukraine.
     
    cabse5, Sep 28, 2022
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    The picture. Ukraine advances in the north, threatening to cut off the 3000 Russians in Lyman.

    [​IMG]
     
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    They may have re turned fire after proRussian separatists fired at good Ukrainians.
     
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    If we wait a couple days Putin’s Kremlinyks and pro Russian embers here will blame the Azov battalion for the Katyn Forest genocide and the Valentines Day massacre in Chicago circa 1930’s.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Sep 28, 2022
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    Photos of what ? perhaps try posting a photo and commenting coherently on it .. who knows - this might be a rare instance of something that is not State Propaganda coming from your direction .. not that you would know the difference .. so not accusing you of intent or anything like that .. more of an unwitting sort of thing .. :)
     
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    The photos are in the post. Russians are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
     
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    Jack Hays, Sep 28, 2022
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian military leadership has likely failed to set information conditions for the potential defeat of the Russian grouping in Lyman, despite increasingly concerned discourse among Russian milbloggers regarding the potential for a Ukrainian envelopment of Lyman.
    • The Kremlin could temporarily postpone announcing the annexation of Russian-occupied Ukrainian territory to better prepare the Russian information space and administrative organization, although September 30 remains the most likely date for some kind of annexation announcement.
    • Russian authorities continue to send newly-mobilized and undertrained recruits to directly reinforce severely degraded remnants of various units, including units that were previously considered to be Russia’s premier conventional fighting forces.
    • Ukrainian forces likely continued to make significant gains around Lyman on September 28, advancing from the north along the Zelena Dolyna-Kolodiazi arc and from the southeast around Yampil.
    • Ukrainian military officials largely maintained operational silence regarding specific Ukrainian actions in Kherson Oblast on September 28 but stated that Ukrainian troops are continuing positional battles in unspecified locations to consolidate and improve their positions along the Southern Axis.
    • Russian forces continued unsuccessful ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian military recruitment officials are openly contradicting the Kremlin’s publicly-stated guidelines for mobilization to meet quota requirements even as Kremlin propaganda is attempting to change the public perception of partial mobilization.
    • Russian authorities are beginning to restrict movement of Russian citizens into Russian border regions to cope with hundreds of thousands of Russian men attempting to flee the country. . . .

    Russian milbloggers discussed Ukrainian gains around Lyman with increased concern on September 28, suggesting that Russian forces in this area may face imminent defeat.[1] Several Russian milbloggers and prominent military correspondents claimed that Ukrainian troops advanced west, north, and northeast of Lyman and are working to complete the envelopment of Russian troops in Lyman and along the northern bank of the Siverskyi Donets River in this area.[2] Russian mibloggers stated that Ukrainian troops are threatening Russian positions and lines of communication that support the Lyman grouping. The collapse of the Lyman pocket will likely be highly consequential to the Russian grouping in northern Donetsk and western Luhansk oblasts and may allow Ukrainian troops to threaten Russian positions along the western Luhansk Oblast border and in the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area.

    Russian military leadership has failed to set information conditions for potentially imminent Russian defeat in Lyman. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not addressed current Russian losses around Lyman or prepared for the collapse of this sector of the frontline, which will likely further reduce already-low Russian morale. Russian military authorities previously failed to set sufficient information conditions for Russian losses following the first stages of the Ukrainian counteroffensives in Kharkiv Oblast, devastating morale and leading to panic among Russian forces across the Eastern axis. The subsequent ire of the Russian nationalist information space likely played a role in driving the Kremlin to order partial mobilization in the days following Ukraine’s initial sweeping counteroffensive in a haphazard attempt to reinforce Russian lines. Future Ukrainian gains around critical areas in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblast may drive additional wedges between Russian nationalists and military leadership, and between Russian forces and their superiors. . . .

    Ukrainian military officials largely maintained operational silence regarding specific Ukrainian actions in Kherson Oblast on September 28 but stated that Ukrainian troops are continuing positional battles in unspecified locations to consolidate and improve their positions along the Southern Axis.[21] Ukrainian military officials also reiterated that Ukrainian troops are continuing an interdiction campaign to target Russian logistics, military, and transportation assets, as well as concentration areas, in Kherson Oblast.[22] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command stated that Russian forces are pulling reserves from the Crimean direction to reinforce the current southern frontline against Ukrainian counteroffensive operations.[23] . . . .
     
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    They were responding to attacks by Russian forces and their puppets. Also, as we have repeatedly seen (at the nuclear power plant ad in Donetsk) Russians normally lie and try to blame Ukraine for their own autrocities. It seems to be what the Russians always do.
     
    USVet, Sep 29, 2022
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    The point is that Azov are neo Nazis, not that they're active. We know they're active.
     
    Esau, Sep 29, 2022
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    They are not neo Nazis.
     
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    Ukraine's offensive in Kharkiv was hard and bitter, say soldiers who did the fighting
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    How Putin is trying to salvage his "special military operation" | To the point


    Annexion und Zwangsrekrutierungen: Wie Putin seine "Spezialoperation" retten will | Auf den Punkt
     
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    Russians want to quit.

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    Russia. Putin. Ukraine. Revolution, and the ghosts of The Collapse of the Russian military in 1917,
     
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    Jack Hays, Sep 29, 2022
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    US to deliver more HIMARS rocket systems as Ukraine forces push to recapture Lyman | Ukraine latest


    There is also some more coverage of the sham referenda, about how people were forced to vote and their ballots checked by armed soldiers, and people fleeing those areas now. Why they stuck around this long is a mystery to me.
     
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