Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To fully rejoin with the Russian Federation would be a difficult and long process because of the economic differences. I remember Merkel saying that uniting East Germany to West Germany took them ten years to recover. What Lukashenko will do though, is form a stronger military union with Russia, something he was afraid of before because of Belarus' proximity to Nato forces.

    Lukashenko realizes now he has no choice, and doesn't want his country to turn into another Ukraine. Russia is establishing bases in Belarus to give them Russia's full military protection.

    The western propaganda networks will probably spin it and say that Russia's taking over Belarus so as to arouse the people - and some will probably be aroused. This might be the reason the Belarus forces have entered Minsk and are stationing themselves in various parts of the city. I'm just speculating of course.
     
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    Botox boy is aware that the population has rejected Luka last "election".....much of law enforcement,media, govt don't support him much. I would suspect those branches may have been infiltrated by Russian ops to spin their propaganda 24/7.
     
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    As ever, you're only concerned about Putin and his stooges, not about the people of the country in question and what they want..
     
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    Ask the Ukrainians what they want - if you can without being killed. Today it's economy is on the same level as Somalia. Here's some images of those representing the South and East of the country, and what was done to them before an election. I guess it's what you would call democracy in action Kiev style.

    From what I read, they protesters were being paid by the oligarch and mega criminal Ihor Kolomoisy, who owned Privat Bank and who supported 3 private armies. His was wanted in Russia for bombing Slaviansk with White Phosporus while Governor, and is under suspicion for the burning and hacking of over 100 protesters in Odessa and the shooting down of the

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    Yeah, you can ask the people of Ukraine what they want. They're not repressed for expressing their opinions the way their brothers and sisters in Belarus are right now.
     
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    It was rumored that Lukashenko's youngest son Nikolai [16] had been sent to Moscow for protection.

    Stately Nikolai has been groomed from childhood to be Lukashenko's heir.

    If only Putin had a son.

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    Fabulous Putie would have to adopt.
     
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    The most important person in a nation is the leader. If he is a righteous Christian leader he will protect and promote his people. Today, that means protecting them from evil perverted antichrist globalist propaganda and promoting his people's own race, religion and culture [unlike racially diverse and morally perverted Western democracies who are ruled by oligarch moneychangers and overflowing with foreigners!]

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    When Nikolai was a child, CrazyIvanova wondered if he was Putin's son hiding incognito.

    But at age 16, he is already over 6 ft tall. So he's either Lukashenko's son or Peter the Great !

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    I don't get it. If you love authoritarianism, why do you stay in the US? Move to Putin's glorious new Christian Russia. Maybe you could even have his child that way.

    P.S. Russia is a very ethnically and linguistically diverse country, just with a lot less immigration.
     
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    Here is link to Putin's April 21, 2021 speech in English.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65418


    Does anything specific jump out at you?


    I found this part interesting because of the historically ironic bridge symbolism and cryptic word, asymmetrical.

    We really want to maintain good relations with all those engaged in international communication, including, by the way, those with whom we have not been getting along lately, to put it mildly. We really do not want to burn bridges. But if someone mistakes our good intentions for indifference or weakness and intends to burn or even blow up these bridges, they must know that Russia's response will be asymmetrical, swift and tough.


    Below is a larger part of Putin's speech that talks about Belarus and Russia's military.


    The meaning and purpose of Russia's policy in the international arena – I will just say a few words about this to conclude my address – is to ensure peace and security for the well-being of our citizens, for the stable development of our country. Russia certainly has its own interests we defend and will continue to defend within the framework of international law, as all other states do. And if someone refuses to understand this obvious thing or does not want to conduct a dialogue and chooses a selfish and arrogant tone with us, Russia will always find a way to defend its stance.

    At the same time, unfortunately, everyone in the world seems to be used to the practice of politically motivated, illegal economic sanctions and to certain actors’ brutal attempts to impose their will on others by force. But today, this practice is degenerating into something even more dangerous – I am referring to the recently exposed direct interference in Belarus in an attempt to orchestrate a coup d’état and assassinate the President of that country. At the same time, it is typical that even such flagrant actions have not been condemned by the so-called collective West. Nobody seemed to notice. Everyone pretends nothing is happening.

    But listen, you can think whatever you like of, say, Ukrainian President [Viktor] Yanukovych or [Nicolas] Maduro in Venezuela. I repeat, you can like or dislike them, including Yanukovych who almost got killed, too, and removed from power via an armed coup. You can have your own opinion of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko’s policy. But the practice of staging coups d’état and planning political assassinations, including those of high-ranking officials – well, this goes too far. This is beyond any limits.

    Suffice it to mention the admission made by the detained participants in the conspiracy about a planned siege of Minsk, including plans to block the city infrastructure and communications, and a complete shutdown of the entire power system in the capital of Belarus! This actually means they were preparing a massive cyberattack. What else could it be? You know, you cannot just do it all with one switch.

    Clearly, there is a reason why our Western colleagues have been stubbornly rejecting Russia’s numerous proposals to establish an international dialogue on information and cyber security. We have come up with these proposals many times. They avoid even discussing this matter.

    What if there had been a real attempt at a coup d’état in Belarus? After all, this was the ultimate goal. How many people would have been hurt? What would have become of Belarus? Nobody is thinking about this.

    Just as no one was thinking about the future of Ukraine during the coup in that country.

    All the while, unfriendly moves towards Russia have also continued unabated. Some countries have taken up an unseemly routine where they pick on Russia for any reason, most often, for no reason at all. It is some kind of new sport of who shouts the loudest.

    In this regard, we behave in an extremely restrained manner, I would even say, modestly, and I am saying this without irony. Often, we prefer not to respond at all, not just to unfriendly moves, but even to outright rudeness. We want to maintain good relations with everyone who participates in the international dialogue. But we see what is happening in real life. As I said, every now and then they are picking on Russia, for no reason. And of course, all sorts of petty Tabaquis are running around them like Tabaqui ran around Shere Khan – everything is like in Kipling's book – howling along in order to make their sovereign happy. Kipling was a great writer.

    We really want to maintain good relations with all those engaged in international communication, including, by the way, those with whom we have not been getting along lately, to put it mildly. We really do not want to burn bridges. But if someone mistakes our good intentions for indifference or weakness and intends to burn or even blow up these bridges, they must know that Russia's response will be asymmetrical, swift and tough.

    Those behind provocations that threaten the core interests of our security will regret what they have done in a way they have not regretted anything for a long time.

    At the same time, I just have to make it clear, we have enough patience, responsibility, professionalism, self-confidence and certainty in our cause, as well as common sense, when making a decision of any kind. But I hope that no one will think about crossing the “red line” with regard to Russia. We ourselves will determine in each specific case where it will be drawn.

    I will now say, just as I always do during the annual addresses to the Federal Assembly, that the improvement and qualitative strengthening of Russia’s Armed Forces continues on a regular basis. In particular, special attention will be given to the development of military education both at military school and academies and at military training centres at civilian universities.

    By 2024, the share of modern weapons and military equipment in the armed forces will reach nearly 76 percent, which is a very good indicator. This share in the nuclear triad will be over 88 percent before this year is out.

    Standing on combat duty are the latest Avangard hypersonic intercontinental missile systems and the Peresvet combat laser systems, and the first regiment armed with Sarmat super-heavy intercontinental ballistic missiles is scheduled to go on combat duty in late 2022.

    The number of combat air systems with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, and warships armed with precision hypersonic weapons such as Kinzhal that I mentioned, and with the Kalibr missiles, is increasing. The Tsirkon hypersonic missiles will be put on combat duty soon. Work is underway on other modern combat systems, including Poseidon and Burevestnik, in accordance with the development plans of the Armed Forces.

    As the leader in the creation of new-generation combat systems and in the development of modern nuclear forces, Russia is urging its partners once again to discuss the issues related to strategic armaments and to ensuring global stability. The subject matter and the goal of these talks could be the creation of an environment for a conflict-free coexistence based on the security equation, which would include not only the traditional strategic armaments, such as intercontinental ballistic missiles, heavy bombers and submarines, but – I would like to emphasise this – all offensive and defensive systems capable of attaining strategic goals regardless of the armament.



    FULL text of Putin's speech is at link

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65418

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    I grow where God planted me.

    God is the ultimate universal Autocrat, the TSAR of Tsars!

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    Stop making excuses. God is calling you to move to Russia and have Putin's child. It's the only way he will have an heir. It has been ordained.
     
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    Putin could have a harem of beautiful women and lots of sons.

    My part in God's end of the age passion play is different and unique.

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    You're afraid to fulfill your destiny. God and Tsar Putin have no place for cowards and apostates.
     
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    I'm wise to your psy-ops.

    Apparently, you know nothing about me or my special relationship with Putin.

    If you read my posts on Pravda, you should know... but incapable of understanding.

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    You can't birth the future World Tsar by posting on a forum. Иди скорее!
     
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    Durandal - Let me ask you something? What concern would Ukraine and Belarus be to Washington considering its distance, unless it has to do with their proximity to Russia? Wouldn't Washington's actions then be a security threat for the Russian Federation?

    Lukashenko will be having a meeting with Vladimir Putin tomorrow. He also said a few days ago that he would announce the "most important decision of his presidency", which would stop "only over his corpse".


    As for the planned coup d'état in Belarus against President Lukashenko, Vladimir Putin said in his speech yesterday that "there was a plan of murder and no one in the West condemned it or even noticed it. In deference to them, Russia will apply international law and if anyone refuses to accept it, then Russia will be forced to defend its position.

    As for most of his speech, it was on domestic issues such as population growth, and the Corona virus. He didn't mention which vaccine he took since Russia has 3 of them and he didn't want to show a preference.

    "The development of three reliable and safe coronovirus vaccines by Russian institutes demonstrates the country's growing scientific potential.

    As for foreign policy Vladimir Putin said that some countries have made a habit of accusing Russia on false premises and he's accustomed to it.

    “We don't want to burn bridges. But, if someone sees our good intentions as indifference or weakness, and they want to burn the bridges, or even blow up the bridges, they should remember this: Russia's response will be asymmetric, swift, and tough,”

    This is the first time Vladimir Putin has made threats, since he's very cautious in what he says. This means he has taken all he can take as far as the West is concerned, and will react forcefully if they "cross the Rubicon".

    At the same time, he expressed hope that no one would cross Russia's red lines and that Russia alone will say what those red lines are.

    "Like hyenas circling a tiger," Russian President Vladimir Putin described the US and other NATO countries as referring to the Ukrainian crisis during their annual address to the Russian National Assembly.

    He also said that "they are doing this for no reason and those who organize these challenges and threaten Russia will regret it in ways that no one has ever regretted before."

     
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    I posted about this earlier... it's ironic historic bridge symbolism:



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    Putin was working in East Germany during the fall of the Berlin Wall. Later, he recounted an experience he had with an unruly crowd. He said a woman in the crowd shouted something about an entrance to a tunnel under the Elbe river. Putin said he didn't understand it... but I suspect it is something symbolic to Putin. I also suspect it relates to the famous photo of US and Soviet troops shaking hands on a broken bridge over the Elbe river, April 25, 1945.

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    When did Putin say this?

    It's not in his April 21 speech posted on Kremlin.ru

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    Sounds familiar.
     
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    Are these the quotes, because I'm going crazy looking for them. I go on many sites and my computer is driving me crazy..

    The president also took aim at what he called “the organizers of any provocations,” noting that anyone who threatens the “fundamental security interests” of Russia would “regret their actions like they have never regretted anything for before.”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/521688-putin-federal-assembly-speech-retaliation-measures/

    "Like hyenas circling a tiger," Russian President Vladimir Putin described the US and other NATO countries as referring to the Ukrainian crisis during their annual address to the Russian National Assembly.

    He also said that "they are doing this for no reason and those who organise these challenges and threaten Russia will regret it in ways that no one has regretted before."


    https://warnews247.gr/vlantimir-pou...oi-yaines-tin-tigri-tha-to-metaniosoun-pikra/
     
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    Putin is worse than Hitler. We cannot allow him to rebuild the Russian Empire.
     

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