Russians Did Penetrate our Voter Data

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  1. Bluebird

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...trated-u-s-voter-systems-says-top-u-s-n845721

    This is what I have been saying since election night, now I believe that they actually changed the vote tally,However this article says they haven't yet found any proof of that---
    That being said, during the interview, she said something like " there is classified information I can't speak of"----
    Well, what is that classified information?
    And,they are strongly suggesting that states update their voting machines, especially in Michigan,Pennsylvania & Wisconsin----
     
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    I find it remarkable that people are not paying more attention to our voting data system, after all ,this is how we elect our officials-it is the heart of our Democracy---
    Or is it that "if" it is found that there was voting data tampering, it would be found that trump is not our POTUS & because of that, some are willing to turn a blind eye---How Un-American is that???
     
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    The president has made it clear that sabotage of the election system isn't his concern.
     
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    Well, it may not be his concern, but it should be "our" concern---
     
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    Notice, Bluebird, the Trumpers are staying as far away from this as possible.
     
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    Yeah,believe me, I have noticed--
    But,to me,this is the number one issue that should be front & center-Because if we can't trust our vote tallies, there goes our Democracy---we are coming up on mid-term elections with little to nothing being done to secure our voting systems & here you have someone sounding alarms & the White House is "deaf"----
     
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    Mueller is the Bold Champion of the Republic, Bluebird, imo.

    If the Trumperfascists defeat him, our country goes downhill.
     
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    Can't change the vote tally by scanning registration rolls.
     
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    Because it is old news and retarded?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, who was President when it happened?
     
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    Electronic voting needs "paper back up"

    Vote electronically, get a paper receipt with how votes were made.
    Sign or initial the receipt and put it in a back up, paper ballot box.

    :rant: :rant:
     
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    We have had this argument a year ago Hoosier,I have provide links with video on how they can change the vote tally--So, there's that---
    however you have someone here sounding the alarm that the Russian's are "still" breaching "our" voting system & Nada,nothing is being done by our Government -----
     
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    Incorrect Hoosier,this link I provided is from just a couple days ago----So,there's that!
     
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    It is a rehash of old news. Also, nowhere has anyone made the claim that actual votes were hacked.
     
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    The Russians hacked us and apparently the greatest technologically advanced country in the world, could not stop them.
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    So,I am not talking about the voting machines, nor is the link I provided---It is about "our" voting data programs being breached--please go back & read & listen to the video---
    If we have to go back to counting by hand so be it
     
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    Incorrect Hoosier,it is not rehash of old news, it has just been confirmed---
    And I mentioned that claim "that so far they haven't found evidence that any votes were changed" in my OP,however,I also said, there was classified information, What is classified?
     
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    Methods and sources.
     
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    Not this again.

    You can go, right now, on the internet, and purchase the entire voter registration database and have it shipped to you.

    Anyone can get voter registration information by logging into their publicly available database.

    https://www.ocvote.com/data/voter-data-available-for-purchase/
     
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    And, your point is?
     
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    Missing the point----This is confirmed "breach" by the Russians just a couple days ago now---
    This goes way beyond the voter registration data-this is a breach of the data voting programs----the programs used to tally the votes---
     
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    Really? That's not what your source says in the OP.
     
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    Counting by hand as a back up to electronic voting.
    As you say, "please go back & read & listen"
    (as you read out loud)
    to the upload you replied. :nana:
     
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    So should we be unconcerned with Russia meddling this way in the U.S.? It's not just us. It's a Russian program to disrupt many, many countries politically. I expect you know this. Should we be unconcerned?
     
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    The way our system works makes it easy to cheat and swing close elections. The antiquated electoral college system should be done away with. It makes it possible to change the results of the whole election by corrupting a few well placed county officials in the few states that are close enough to buy. The Democrats did it in 1960 and the Republicans did it in 2000. If Russian crooks who are known to have billions in stolen cash at the ready actually paid off a few well placed county officials in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida they could have stolen the election and handed it over to crooked Donny. All votes should be recorded on paper ballots which can be checked against the official count. This could be easily done using the same system that banks use when recording deposits and withdrawals at ATMs. We have had two shady elections in the past 20 years now in which the person with less votes won. Time to reevaluate the way we hold national elections for sure. Joseph Stalin once wrote: "It matters not who votes, it only matters who COUNTS the votes"...
     
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