Russians Did Penetrate our Voter Data

It would if the dollar was worthless and they used it. It wouldn't so much, if they trade in other than the dollar. Maybe we shouldn't set ourselves up to have interdependence with nations like Russia? Maybe those who make those deals with them should be charged with a crime like sedition?

Maybe it isn't Russia alone, but those who are extremely wealthy who want to control the world? In Russia, those might necessarily be members of the government. In the USA, it would be businessmen backed by the government for fear of rampant unemployment.

Seems again, it is greed that is the factor. The little guy is a pawn or nothing to them.

 

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Yeah, right. I've been reading about this so-called "Russians hacking the US voting system" for over a year now. You'd think, in that time, the full technological might of the US would have stopped them. The NSA, CIA, FBI, pentagon and the rest of the technological corporations could have stopped them but they are powerless against the Russian hacking juggernaut.
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YOU forget those Russians are so very good at it
they leave no trail to prove it.

It is a matter of Common Knowledge vs Real Truth.
An allegation is as good as a conviction.
Hang 'em now and save the costs of "due process".

It's the 21st Century.

 

Then what's all the hearings about? They needed to spend more so they could ask for more in the budget? WTH? lol

 

If a voting system, where a hacker can access vote tallies and change them is possible, then we need to not give internet access to voting machines, if we are scared of this happening. Common sense. If we really feared this, we would have changed the system. Personally I do not want to give access to these machines to even our federal gov't. For our own gov't has proven it lies to us and cannot therefore be trusted, unless one is a village idiot, a fool.

 

Not only that but our intel has created hacking tools which frame other nations, when they do the hacking. lol This was revealed by Wikileaks last year. We are literally at the point of being impossible to tell who hacked who. If done by state actors or hackers from the dark web. This may be the real reason our intel could not provide the evidence for russian hacking.

 

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You don't get it do you? No matter. It sounds like you have this all figured out. Good for you. You must have some vast experience with the technology of voting machines, computers, the internet and the Russians.
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I just relied upon what obama said about these machines. And of course I try to keep up with what Wikileaks reveals about our intel and their hacking tools. How bout you? You know, it would have helped out hillary and hurt trump if obama had lied and said, yep, the russians hacked our voting machines! lol But instead he just told the truth. Of course, you can refute him if you have the evidence to do that. I just presented two cases of evidence to support what I think. In fact, the evidence is what gave me my opinion. How bout you?

 

As I said before, people tend to have a very skewed view of how computer technology works. You hear words like firewall and internet security and imagine that defending against intrusion is just as viable as intruding. It isn’t. Trying to keep people out of a system or database is much much harder than being the one trying to get in. The only absulute defense is to disconnect your system from the internet. As long as you’re online, intrusion isn’t a matter of if but when.

The idea that we have some sort of technological capability that the rest of the world doesn’t have is wrong. Technology is technology is technology the world over. The idea that we can have absolute or even good electronic information security is wrong.

 

Exactly, that's why we should count on veryone's vote the sameina nationalelection.

 

It would have a chance...if we had the leadership to make it happen.

We don't

 

Hey,I agree,I am very curious to know what that classified information is---
Your other questions,I am supposing Mueller is investigating--I am curious to know what trump's computer guru Pascale has to say,I am curious as to what was going on with the computer data operation trump's campaign had set up in Texas during the campaign, I am curious to know more about the Woman who had Security clearance that leaked some top secret voting information about 7 months back now( she was jailed & they found a thumb drive with information she was going to leak) what was that information?
What do you mean (forensic) proof?

 

I would most certainly trust our Intelligence teams than, say ----trump----

 

Oh, Brother---It is "all" connected---
So, I'm guessing you have links to support your statement? Because as far as I know, the investigation is not completed, so if you know something the rest of us do not know, spill it!
And no, I am not naive, some seem to forget, based on the Dems being constantly slammed & denigrated & blamed for this investigation, I am just reminding you that it is Republican led---so,there's that!

 

And you know same as me, that the whole story will come out when Mueller decides to release it, but we do know Manifort is in an ankle bracelet--And we do know that Manifort was part of the trump campaign, even you can't deny that! As much as you want to separate trump from the Russian connections, you can't---so there's that!

 

Jill Stein got her recount in WI. The original vote was validated. Like Ohio, we mark a paper ballot. The ballot is scanned. The ballot is stored under the scanner. They rescanned the ballots and lo and behold, the counts were validated.

In Ohio, our computers were not on the grid, so they couldn't be hacked. Since WI uses the same technology, I'm sure it's the same.

 

I go to a hacker conference in Vegas every year called DefCon.

This past years main attraction was the voting center. They had almost every type of voting machine used in our current election process.

Not a single machine lasted an hour, before they were compromised and hacked every which way in and out. Not a single one.

 

Obama actually did try, and was stopped by the GOP. Nice try though.

 

Link?

 

Bravo no one, nothing Jill Stein
Her party lacks the vitality of new candidates.

Bravo Ohio but, I don't trust electronics so much as to forgo a
Paper Ballot back up system


Si?

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-doping-olympic-mastermind-on-the-run/
So, I was listening to the interview this morning with Michael Barbano about the Russians & the Olympic doping & how "far" the Russians are willing to go to "Win",-----If, the Russian's were so bent on cheating at the Olympic's I have little doubt that they did penetrate our voting data programs & manipulate the votes---
We only need "one" person, say, Gosifer or Pascale to show us how they did it---like the mastermind from the olypmic's----

 

Yeah,I had found a video that I provided here a couple days after the election, where they explained how was possible to change votes--
What is remarkable is that we have seen where hackers have penetrated supposedly secured companies & have stolen our personal information,like address',bank accounts, visa & master cards numbers,Social Security numbers & yet, when it comes to votes being changed, it's Oh,No, not possible--
And then we have SOS Tillerson this last week saying," if Russia wants to hack into our election process,there is little we can do to stop them"-Well,with that attitude No we can't----ever wonder why he has that attitude & why people like myself are concerned?

 

MI, WI & OH all had paper ballots. MI and WI were recounted.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ing-revelations-about-gop-trump-obama-w489548
So,here's the link to your inquiry--
Sure do wish the GOP would have joined efforts with the Dems to stop this earlier, but that wasn't their mission-their mission as Mitch McConnell so, publicly stated " Our #1 goal is to make OBAMA a one term POTUS" & even after OBAMA'S second win, it was the GOP's mission to block OBAMA in every way-----

 

Well, if I remember correctly, they only had enough money to pick certain precincts to recount, not a total recount----