Russia's Espionage -Hacking-Campaign

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  1. Jonsa

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    The point is that Putin is not playing nice and trump is bending america over for him. A dereliction of duty of historic proportion.
     
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    Sometimes I think we oughta just close our embassies in Russia and China, close their embassies in the U.S., send every Russian and Chinese national home, and make our own stuff here.

    Not gonna happen, but I wish ...
     
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    My first thought is always: Cui Bono? (Who gains?)

    Certainly not Russia, unless it's a response to our own malice towards them in our regime change endeavors - or maybe a warning to show Washington what Moscow is capable of and not to try any funny stuff. Of course that's long shot.

    If one though considers how many of the accusations towards Russia turned out to be false - from Russiagate to the latest farce before the election of the Hunter Biden accusations being Russian disinformation, a person would have to be a fool not to question everything the MSM says about Russia.

    The hacking was on Solar Winds, a company that has connections with the Clinton's, Obama's, China and George Soros - which makes me doubt that it even occurred. So why would the MSM want to throw the blame on Russia?

    Well for one, it would redirect people's attention away from China as an enemy since they are a communist and atheist government and therefore ideologically closer to their own liberal Great Reset and One Wo
    rld Government - something they would want to present as a utopia rather than the dystopia it truly is.

    Is this what we would want for our own country?

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  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BRAVO! Finally a word of wisdom.

    What is wrong with that Bozo anyway? Since he is such an advocate of the corporate control of the masses in a one world government similar to the Soviet Union, I say we nationalize Amazon, and start spreading its wealth to all the small business' that he and his cohorts have destroyed.
     
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    Trump of course is bending over backwards to protect Putin. Republicans have a long history of going after the wrong enemy. We had 9/11 so Bush invades Iraq, one of the countries that had nothing to do with 9/11.
     
  6. MiaBleu

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  7. Jeannette

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    Oops! So it's back to the Russiagate farce to distract from the reality of Beijing Joe's son who made millions from China.

    Need I remind you that other than Obama destroying Ukraine by supporting hard core Nazis, and lowering the Soviet Union's wealthiest province to the level of Somalia, Obama also destroyed Libya, the wealthiest nation in Africa.

    Obama also supported terrorists in Syria, who were committing genocide towards Christians at the rate of 300 a day - with the intent of overthrowing Assad; the only secular leader in the Middle East who was protecting them and all the minorities.





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    I got to say -

    Who would have though four years ago that the Trump years would include the implosion of the NRA, that Fox News would
    be labeled as part of the "deep state" and that Russia and Putin would be looked upon by Republicans more favorably
    than the FBI.

    Whatever. The Republican train has left the tracks.
     
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    What world do you live in?
     
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    Spot on!!!
     
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  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have news for you, there is no evidence that either Russia or China hacked Solar Winds. For that matter, considering that the Clintons, Obamas, and perhaps Soros were connected with the company, I even doubt that it was hacked by a foreign power and that it wasn't some domestic mischief to distract from Beijing Biden and to put the focus back on Trump and Putin.

    I guess four years of that conspiracy farce wasn't enough. Just how stupid do the Democrats think we are?

    Here's a quote from President Trump:

    “The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality,” he wrote. “I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control.”

    He also criticized the media for ignoring China as a possible origin of the hack.

     
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    Groeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoehl
     
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    If that's like his control of the Covid virus in the US you're doomed. Only idiots listen to Trump.
     
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    the same alternate realty / universe as the big T.???

    It IS hard to understand the grip Trump has on the "followers".

    A chap that is currently entertaining not leaving the White house at all. ( reported by CNN........following some meeting he had regarding ideas to over throw the election. Seems he is terrified of what he is going to face once he is out of office. His supporters have donated over 200 Million Dollars to him so far as apart of his fleecing the population campaign. What a freaking shyster. It is concerning(very) but also entertaining.

    But I digress ;-)
     
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    Secretary of State Pompeo stated it was clearly Russia attacking us.

    A short time later President Trump acted to defend Russia by stating it was the Chinese.

    Guess what, they both spy on us. They both try to steal every imaginable bit of intelligence. Not just military but also industrial. Anything that will give Russia or China an edge in hurting the USA and Western Democracy, they are doing it.

    So why does Trump constantly deflect from Russia being blamed when our intelligence services call out the Russians for spying, meddling and attacking us?
     
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    Theorizing: Trump wants to stay in good favor with Putin...........( because he likes dictators)


    Or Putin has something n Trump..........and trump is too scared to criticize Putin. and will go out of his way to lie and blame someone else to avoid saying anything negative about Putin.

    It is very weird and very undemocratic. and actually rather crazy ...

    Forget presidential..
     
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    No Trump supporter myself, but I no longer listen to CNN after the expose of their political bias.
    I want news, not opinion.
     
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    Don't believe anything Pompeo says, he lies. He said so himself, but look, don't take my word for it. If you get on to :55 you can hear him say it:



    Pres. Trump is the one with first hand knowledge. He's the one they have to report to, not Pompeo. A little background here: I read that the Clinton's, Obama's, China and possibly Soros were connected to Solar Winds before the company became public.

    The following should be of interest. It seems that the Director of National Intelligence Ratcliffe will not sign off on the
    elections report unless the Intelligence officials include the damning information on China. Seems some in the Intelligence community do not want to disclose it, so the report is being delayed.


     
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    Too late. Trump lost the election.
     
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    He sure does. It really put him off his putt of the 10 green when the news was given to him. He was so disturbed he didn't go into the Oval office for 2 days - and then sacked his Club Manager for allowing the news to get to him. So I hear.

    DNI Ratcliffe? not surprising seeing that he is a Republican appointed by Trump. And the report has nothing to do with vote counting but to do with interference in US . That includes politics, economics and science.

    Under the US constitution Trump was beaten but, as always, won't accept criticism or blame. He's been that way since a child if you read his history of tantrums, cheating, lying, womanising and much more. You are an Orthodox Greek Christian yet you approve of this man. Heaven help Christianity.
    There are 13 virtues in the Orthodox faith. You approve of a man that has very few of these. Well done.
     
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    Why do "Trump supporters" have to justify this? That doesn't even make sense. The Russians and Chinese have been hacking us for years with impunity. And the reason that they do is that we've yet developed an effective response. Sanctions and more sanctions? It doesn't seem to have much effect. If you have any ideas on how we should respond, other than vigorous finger wagging, I'd love to hear it.
     
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    That sounds like a great plan against China, but Russia makes nothing that anyone wants, so that will be less effective.
     
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    Half of Congress is compromised by China. The fight is over who they blame in the report. Russia is the easy target but it won’t be proved, just inferred.
     
  25. Jeannette

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    I think it would be more accurate to say the liberals and MSM are more patriotic to communist China and George Soros' one world government than to our sovereignty and Constitution? I'm going to include Supreme Court Judge Roberts in that as well, otherwise why would the globalist/Internationalist Soros praise him at Davos?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ohn-roberts-even-soros-cheered-roberts-davos/
     

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