Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

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  1. DennisTate

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    I thought that this was an exceptionally interesting thread that deserved to be continued past the limit.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-government-talks-about-release-e-t-data.html
    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

     
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    I was reminded of this discussion as I read some of the research by Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow.

    http://astralcity.org/issue/95
     
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    The various known existing races of E.T. are about as far removed from Humanity as we are to a Hampster.

    They are Tens of Thousands if not a Million or more years in Advance of us.

    They look at us to study like we tag and release animals.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    But……. the highly advanced beings composed of light who met with near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley told him clearly that human beings were viewed as pioneers…… with great courage…. to incarnate down into this really challenging fourth space time dimensional third rock with all its dangers!

    He was also shown that only the most courageous and philosophically advanced spiritual beings in the multiverse were willing to incarnate as a human who was destined to suffer a serious childhood illness or be mentally or physically handicapped.
     
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    Don't kid yourself...with extreme intellect comes cold calculation.

    Emotionality is almost non-existent.

    You ever see what appears to be an E.T. craft taking an interest in you....RUN!

    RUN YOUR A$$ OFF!

    Consider this....how much empathy do you have for a Chicken?

    Nuggets....MMMmmMMMm!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    My previous post on the original thread was not intended as a passive aggressive tactic when I wrote "Which metals extracted have been not found on this planet? Please don't tell me to find it myself for obvious reasons" in relation to your post above.
    The context in the second sentence is that I can't see how to search for something that I'm not convinced exists.

    Anyway, back to my questions, Which metals extracted have been not found on this planet?
     
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    I have the impression that near death experiencers meet much higher level beings from a higher dimension, not merely from another planet.

    I guess, extraterrestrials would be struggling with the same thought patterns that we must deal with.

    We have gotten into the mentality of looking at everything as something to CONSUME one way or another!

    So perhaps beings from higher dimensions stop extra terrestrials from using us as meat for the barbecue?

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    (Near death experiencer Christian Andreason, chapter 2)
     
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    If there are advanced beings out there I am sure they have quarantined out galaxy and put a do not enter warning around it because they know that humans will eventually conquer them.

    We are like the best disease ever created.
     
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    The arrogant assumption that our insignificant little world, alone out of trillions of other planets in the universe, was chosen as somewhere to visit by 'aliens' is also impossibly naive. It speaks to our innate desire for there to be 'something else' beyond humanity, rather like our continuing infatuation with religion and the 'afterlife'.
     
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    Quite; and why would an alien race want to come anywhere near a belligerent species which has done little else but attempt to kill itself off since the dawn of homo sapiens?
     
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    Friendly Extraterrestrials???

    Sure, they'll be friendly... once you volunteer for the big, days long DNA experiments that they have to get permission to do and then they get a promotion for doing them.

    Yup!

    Then, if you're lucky, one of them might be interested in you and set up a bio-sealed room on the mother-ship just for you to stay in. And then you can enjoy rather dreadful nutrient shakes and hearing whispers from the viewing area surrounding your room (which has transparent walls) with: "Is it real? (you move) WOW!!! Would I like to dissect THAT!!!."

    And then maybe you have a biosuit to exit the structure and walk around. And you need it because the air and microbes in the rest of the ship are hazardous to your health. And you'll be doing that before long because you're going to be bored out of your mind!

    But, whatever you do don't go to the Engine Room!!! They probably won't let you go after that... unless you can convince them that you didn't see anything useful in Engineering. I hope you didn't expect to have private thoughts after that, because they may well read your mind to find out the truth.

    And, let's say you decide to get going from that, while the getting is good. They set up position up in the air above your landing spot. It's too far to jump but they say the program is ready and you should exit... Well, then, they'll push you out, cause you're too scared to jump yourself. Well, instead of falling down to your death like you thought, you drift gently down and make touchdown. You decide never to do that again, but you're haunted by the last words they told you: "You'll be back... I have seen it."
     
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    Wgabrie…….. I get the funny feeling………… that all your fears have not been alleviated by the assertion that some of these aliens may have cooperated at Sodom, Gomorrah and the Red or Reed Sea?

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    It seems that the most important alien races to visit us are not exactly from another planet…… but seem to be from eighth or ninth dimensional space - time, (or higher). There may have been a time when they were humans on earth or humanoids on another planet…… but at this time they seem to have gone far far far beyond being merely human?

    They seem to look at our situation in a much more positive way than we might tend to imagine.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence11.html
    Some Near-Death Experiencers Received Visions of the Future Which Later Came True

     
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    Yes if for no other reason to contain us from venturing outward closer to them.

    Think of it as us having a nasty bug and they want us quarantined.

    On the other hand, you bet if I was tagging a human I would take extra precautions. We sure as hell bite.

    I personally believe it is illogical to think life ends at our planet. I think it logical to believe life is infinite in possible variation, time and place from the little we do know from our own ability to decipher that which is around us.

    I think its arrogant to think we are the only life out there and the reality evolves around us.I do not see us as the centre of anything just an estimated approximation at a given point in time when we try conceive of something other than nothing.

    I leave the speculation as to the motives of aliens to others. I think we as humans tend to project our thought processes, feelings, beliefs on things we do not understand in the process called personification and I think it reflects some of the opinions as to why two people look at what they think is an alien, and once says bad the other good.

    I think it more plausible that if there are aliens, they would be following an agenda we would not necessarily know and could like us be a mix of good and bad so to speak. The concept that an alien is all bad or all good appears to be our human exercise of stereotyping to try control our lack of information and simplify what we think we see to cope with our lack of true knowledge. That's why we have religion. We create polar opposites to engage in a holy war as our brain's way of simplifying the inevitable dynamic of positive and negative friction that creates energy or form or life.


    I sometimes think aliens may have come hear and spliced apes with their own kind to create a hybrid to work in mines and extract things and then when they were done they left, leaving the hybrids behind to overpopulate not really giving a damn about the damage they left behind, sort of the way we humans have introduced species into habitats they were not intended to be and because of a lack of predators, overpopulate and cause environmental problems.

    Sometimes I think of humans as (*)(*)(*)(*)-roaches or rats left behind from a lab experiment.

    Then I increase my daily dosage of humility and think ok even if we were accelerated on our path of evolution by outside interference from ape to what we are now or just came about to where we are naturally through selective processes of evolution and survival, we have the potential t keep evolving if we find away to get past some but not all of our primal tendencies.

    I think the very primal tendencies that can make us evil or problematic , such as anger, sex drive, jealousy envy, are inextricably attached to emotions such as joy, love and sharing and the emotions that generate both can not be magically separated, they always remain connected so we have to find a way to balance them-in that sense we are all Jecyl and Hyde-one part Satan the other part Messiah/Jesus/Buddah, etc.

    If I were studying us I would see humans as schizoid, having two distinct competing personality traits in constant dynamic tension and trying to increase one side of the emotional equation but not the other does not work and necessarily creates grievous side effects.

    If I was sickly alien life form looking for genetic assistance from us to refresh their gene pool which many speculate some are, they might be petrified about inheriting our emotions if they are do import our other genetic qualities. They might be finding it impossible to strain out our imperfections in their quest to refresh their gene pools.

    Me personally as well, you stick a probe up my ass I am going to get annoyed. I have had my share of medical exams. Hey you want a cotton swab fine. Shove too much up my nose or keester or other entrances or orifices, I am going to get annoyed and no amount of telling me its for a good cause will change that.

    There has to be given and take. You want me up in a ship getting probed, get real. At least make it worth my while with a procreation session with Halle Berry or hell even Jane Fonda if they found a way to regenerate her ovaries.

    My fear is I get up their and I find myself in a room with Kim Kardashian.

    Genetics is a scary thing with the wrong mate.
     
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    Oh, well I was talking about stuff based on real events... in my life.


    But anyway, I don't know if I feel better about the aliens teeming up to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Which, by the way, were destroyed by an asteroid. We found out about this from an ancient Sumerian Star Chart which was carved in stone. It had a body in orbit that isn't there today. They ran some simulations and discovered it wasn't in a stable orbit and part of that flight path was right over where Sodom and Gomorrah were.

    It probably exploded off of the ground and melted them from super heat. If I remember correctly, the explosion of such an object would have been thousands of degrees.
     
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    If near death experiencer Mellen Benedict is correct that humanity is about to become more spiritual…………. less selfish……..more humble……. then perhaps aliens with much greater technology than we can imagine may well be involved in helping to make this happen.

    It is amazing how often we think that others are thinking……… in a manner similar to our own thought patterns!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a09
     
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    Who said anything about a mate? They don't need mates anymore. Well, there's bubba in the corner but the shameful secret is that he has spines on his little special place! :eekeyes: Otherwise, they'll just take a sample of your DNA, mix it up in a test tube, and implant the resulting Fetuses on your skin so that they can grow for a few days.

    But don't think you're keeping them. Oh no, even if you're pro-life and want to keep them, well, you don't have the blood supply for that.

    So, after a few days of growth -- if they're viable-- they'll cut them out of you using something like an x-acto knife. It's going to hurt! Then they're going to grow the things in a machine for a few more days and then harvest them for science! If they're not viable you have to go through it all over again! :omg:

    I know some people would call such a thing murder. But I approve of it. Hey, someone has to study humans since we don't seem to be doing terribly much of that ourselves. At least someone benefits from the knowledge.
     
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    By the way Dennis, I'm with you on this as far as I also think there might be beings composed of light. But I can't be sure whether it's possible or not.
     
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    I've gotten the impression that Christian Andreason was shown that all of us…… humans and aliens and all sentient life forms……. were once composed of light and volunteered to go downward into lower vibrational life forms……… in order to learn?!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    Or maybe we were originally composed of both light….. as well as music?!
     
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    You'd have trouble finding a room big enough for you, Kardashian and her arse!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes, that's entirely plausible-like the Tunguska event which was also an air-burst.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
     
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    The Elements that make up the Compounds in the TAGS....are Elements found anywhere as the Periodic Table is a list of Elements and known Isotopse that exist throughout our Universe.

    But these TAGS....little pieces of Metal.....somehow generate the Human Body to grow CONNECTIVE NERVE SYSTEMS to them.

    They have also been found to generate two Radio Signals one Ultra High Frequency and one Ultra Low Frequency.

    ULF....Ultra Low Frequency is how we communicate with our Nuclear Submarines as ULF is capable of traveling trough just about anything including rock and water.

    When these TAGS are surgically removed....they stop Broadcasting.

    But as far as Elements.....the same Elements exist everywhere but specific ISOTOPSE of Elements might have to be MADE or like in some cases H3....Helium 3 Isotopse is found on the Moon as the Moon has no Atmosphere to degrease H3 which is being generated from the SUN.

    We believe E.T. uses H3 for it's Fusion Reactors but it takes more than just a Fusion Reaction to Fold or Warp Space-Time.

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    No.....E.T. races must Fold or Warp Space-Time in order to have Viable Interstellar Travel.

    To do this you must have developed and completely understand the UFT.....UNIFIED FIELD THEORY.

    If you develop and understand the UFT.....YOU LACK FOR NOTHING....except curiosity and learning and science.

    This means you can convert Energy you can generate at will....into Matter of any Molecular Configuration....sort of like the Food Dispensors on Star Trek NG.

    So they would not need anything from us.

    But they might use our Planet as a stop to pick up water to use as Fuel or H3 from our Moon to use as fuel as well.

    But they are not evil....but to say they are like us in any way is foolish.

    Empathy with them is Empathy based on the numbers.

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    I have read studies that were published where computer models said we will become sterile in about 2 million years. So these aliens better study us fast before we are gone. Like Cadbury Easter Eggs!

    Crap. Now I want chocolate. ;-(
     
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    Actually.....any Highy Advanced Alien Interstellar Traveling Race would have mapped out and KNOW where LIFE BEARING PLANETS EXIST AND ARE!!

    Think of it like this.....you and your Tribe travel the Middle Eastern and African Deserts.

    Your Tribe has been traveling these Deserts for 1000 years.

    DON'T YOU THINK YOUR TRIBAL ELDERS WILL KNOW WHERE EVERY POSSIBLE OASIS OR POSSIBLE SOURCE OF WATER EXISTS ALONG YOUR TRAILS????

    Same thing with E.T.

    They know where we are....and what this Planet has to offer.

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    All Space-Faring Species go through this period.

    Some destroy themselves....so do not.

    In 1983 during a NATO War Game called ABLE ARCHER 83.....Soviet Leader Yuri Andropov a sick, dying and delisional man told one of his close aids that he wanted to go down in history as the man who destroyed the United States and NATO.

    Andropov convinced many of his supporters that Able Archer 83 was REAL....and not a War Game and that under President Reagan the U.S. and NATO using the newly deployed PERSHING II INTERMEDIATE RANGE TACTICAL NUCLEAR MISSLES....all stationed in West Germany WOULD BE LAUNCHED along with the TRIDENT NUCLEAR MISSILES SLBM'S based in U.S. NAVY OHIO CLASS SUBS and ROYAL NAVY VANGUARD SUBS.

    Andropov and the KGB and GRU and the Soviet Military KNEW that the Pershing II's were so fast and so accurate that if they were launched the Soviet Leadership would only have 3 to 4.5 Minutes to respond....NOT ENOUGH TIME.

    As well the Trident SLBM's launched from U.S. Ohio Class and Royal Navy Vanguard Class Subs were also so accurate that it was impossible for LEAKS to occur that allowed the Soviet Military to know during Testing most Trident MIRV'S DIRECTLY STRUCK THEIR TARGETS WITHIN A 10 METER IN RADIUS CIRCLE!!!

    The best the Soviet's could achive was 1080 Meters from Target thus that is why Soviet Missiles carried Less MIRV's and more KILO OR MEGATONAGE to balance out their much more innacurate Missiles.

    Andropov was dying and delusional and KNEW that if the U.S. Launched a FIRST STRIKE....it would completely destroy all SS-20 Mobile Missile Launchers.....Destroy all Nuclear Missiles in Hardened Silo's....and decapitate the Soviet Leadership and Military's ability to strike back.

    Of course the U.S. and NATO had absolutely no intentions of doing this as tis would be INSANE!!!

    The world came within 45 SECONDS FROM ENDING!!!! 1983.

    Thus some Civilizations never make it...but those that do make it and EVOLVE....TRAVEL THE STARS.

    AboveAlpha
     
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