Russophobia explained.

Anything but actually address what was said. Just make believe that an email that these people acknowledge and a legal confession is the equivalent of creationism, birtherism, 9/11 truthers because you don't like the objective conclusion. Got it.

 

punny very punny.

 

Между тем, мы должны верить вымышленному рассказу о том, что «Россия», особенно с принцем Валиантом Путиным на посту президента Федерации, является «Большим плохим злом», которого я никогда не смогу принять.
Mezhdu tem, my dolzhny verit' vymyshlennomu rasskazu o tom, chto «Rossiya», osobenno s printsem Valiantom Putinym na postu prezidenta Federatsii, yavlyayetsya «Bol'shim plokhim zlom», kotorogo ya nikogda ne smogu prinyat'.


Meanwhile, we are supposed to believe the fictional narrative that Rossiya, especially with Prince Valiant Putin as president of the Federation, is the Big Bad Evil One which I will never accept.

 

Excuses, excuses.

Those are just a handful of countries the Russians invaded since the mid-20th Century. If I went back and listed every invasion and internal conflict involving Russia the list would be a mile long.

As for the invasion and dismemberment of Ukraine, as was the case with the invasion of Georgia, that had to do with seizing a base for the Black Sea Fleet. Putin began setting both of those wars of revanchist aggression years before he set up the bogus pretexts for invading them.

Yet the point stands. It's the Russian-Soviet history of aggression and its decades-long occupation of Central and Eastern Europe after WWII that are responsible for the well-earned distrust of the Kremlin.

 

Excuses? What do I have to gain in offering excuses for Rossiya? All that I am doing is presenting facts that do not jibe with the awkward Occidental diatribe when it comes to Rossiya and other subjects of "Affection". As for distrust of Rossiya from other Eastern European nations, especially after CCCP nightmare, of course nations would distrust and of course, many of those nations seek to emulate the Occident which is their choice. As for me, I like Rossiya, I like Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, the Russkiye that I have met and I like what Vladimir Putin is doing with Rossiya and how he looks out for the best interest of his Russkiye people.

 

War gaming is integral to the development of military tactics and strategies. Gaming every possible scenario is a duty, not a past time.

I'd bet the farm there are any number of comprehensive plans to invade CANADA filed away, for crying out loud. CANADA!.

 

hallelujah!

 

Yeah which explains why in his looking out for his people has robbed them blind. Seems too much money was the most chronic of problems with the russian people.

You truly are a funny guy. Id consider perhaps its your work product, but if so the paymasters aint' getting their money's worth.

 

Fiction, nothing more than fiction, Jonsa.

 

Yep, parroting the Kremlin's war propaganda to excuse Vladimir Putler's Anschluss campaign in Ukraine. The Neo-Nazis are in Russia, bro.

God only knows, but there must be a reason...

You're presenting propaganda, not facts.

Of course, those nations and people were enslaved by the Russians/Soviets.

I have nothing against Russia per se and I am fond of the Russians I have met, but Vlad the Invader is a fascist , a murderer and a warmonger. As long as my president recognizes that we're ok.

 

A real knee-slapper your post is.

 

Fine, no problem. I do not know the day to day operations of the russian mob, except they are involved in crime to earn a living. Perhaps hacking, stealing online, etc. And involved in traditional mafia type of crimes. Not that much different from the italian mafia in principle. But no, I do not know a single one personally. You? I know what average americans know, and that is enough. For I do not plan on seeking them out, nor associating. They are criminals. Now, if I did real estate business in NYC or other places where they were involved somehow in construction, yes, no doubt I would end up dealing with them at some point. As everyone does in that business. The regular mafia is probably still doing their crimes in those areas as well. I bet trump had dealings with them, not illegal just dealings.


Yes, I am biased towards genuine journalism, instead of what I have to assume you read, or hear, a journalism lacking basic standards. Perhaps you might want to look up what those standards are, and then keep those in mind and go to your news sources. And compare standards journalism with what you feed your brain with. Have a nice day.

 

so you don't have enough information to determine what if anything, Trump's extensive business dealings with russian mobsters and oligarchs might mean.

For some reason you refuse to accept what I tell you. I have dealt EXTENSIVELY with journalists over the course of my career. I am well aware of the standards of professional journalism. But for obvious reasons you seem to think that anyone who disagrees with your "informed" opinion must be a sop for propaganda.

I USED TO CREATE THE STUFF AND GET HANDSOMELY PAID FOR DOING SO.
It was for corporate interests in the corporate arena,not for partisan interests in the political arena. Content might differ but all of the principles remain.

You have yourself a good one. Maybe feed your brain with all that neutral upstanding journalism you've found out of the mainstream.

 

no...not nearly as paranoid as some...

 

Прочтите слова принца Валианта и плачьте, злые. да
Prochtite slova printsa Valianta i plach'te, zlyye. da


Российский генерал о Владимире Путине
Rossiyskiy general o Vladimire Putine

 

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I ask again, in case I misunderstood Partizan re. Ukrainian collaboration with the Nazis.

 

there probably was....whats the point?? No bigger collaboration than Molotov/Ribbentrop that carved up Poland and later Hitler sucker punched Stalin, stalin should've been careful what bedfellows he tried to make...).

 

sure tovarish. I really really really believe you and not the facts. But wait, of course, Russia pays its top politicians a healthy wage, enough for Medvedev to own hundreds of millions of dollars (not rubles) in real estate and palatial homes. Boy either great pay, cheap labor or ROBBERY and PAYOFFS.

Gotcha pegged, time for a new username. Oh btw, do they pay trolls as well as they pay politicians?

 

The women that are pouring in from Russia are great! We should let em all in. They are beautiful, very smart and love sex...

 

Amen.

The perfect women, and they're not even three feet tall with a flat head (to rest your beer).

 

Yes, I know, but surely you agree there must be some kind of evidence of an impending attack to justify such prodigious expenditure of taxpayers money - especially when recent governments have been winding down our military for the past 2 decades when this 'threat' has been there all that time? To come to the point, the only signs of impending attacks in northern Europe I've seen so far in this scenario are NATO'S combined militaries' blatant and highly provocative breast-thumping exercises right on the supposed enemy's doorstep. Surely any impartial observer will recognize that. To be honest, I have zero confidence in all of our bureaucratized public services, least of all in the MoD and its self-serving and incompetent upper echelons.

 

There undoubtedly is something weird going on in 'Washington', nobody can deny it.

I hope you're wrong about 'the big bang' though! Trouble is that I don't think you are wrong!! Too much weird stuff going on for my liking and it's getting ominous.

 

You are not westerner, Tiblisi is due east...

But I agree with you, them Russians are not even good at trolling as American here. They are funny tho... Worth killing time...

By the way, you might want to pay more attention to Hasbara girls, you never know... I heard Mossad got some troll department as well

 

Of course there was, and even more in the Baltics. And there was a reason for it ... it wasn't that the people in those countries just had wicked hearts. They saw the Germans as liberators from Soviet rule -- at first. And Soviet rule had been dreadful.

Because the satellite countries had to be portrayed, during the Cold War, as made up of pure-minded democrats suffering under wicked Soviet rule, most Americans knew nothing of this collaboration, although Jews tended to be more clued up since they were massacred by the locals who proved even more disgusting in their anti-Semitism than the Germans. And on the other hand, since a significant number of local Jews had welcomed the Soviets and collaborated in their crimes -- again, understandable, not out of wicked hearts -- that too is a story that is swept under the carpet by those for whom honest history is subordinate to the pursuit of tribal aims.

If the Nazis had been smart -- or, rather, had they listened to the smart Nazis, like Ribbentrop, they could have recruited these peoples as allies. But nationalism inclines powerful countries towards stupid arrogant behavior: "Win their hearts and minds? Ha! Get 'em by the balls and the hearts and minds will follow," as certain macho types said in Vietnam. Worked a treat, there too. So after a year or two of their rule the Nazis ended up facing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian partisans. Thank goodness for Nazi stupidity.

The end of the Cold War has meant that various unsavory types, who had to pretend since 1945 that their anti-Communism was motivated only by democratic princples, rather than ultra-nationalist, anti-Semitic, and proto-fascist ones, have begun to crawl out from under their rocks and test the waters to see if there is a receptive audience for their repulsive views. And there may be such an audience, in the confusion rising up as America goes into decline and liberals have decided to don the hate-the-Russians clothes that the Right had discarded.

Since national/tribal struggles are almost always a tangle of rights and wrongs on all sides, with everyone having some hair-raising crimes in their past, we will always find the propaganda of tribal spokesmen to have some truth in it, perhaps truth that had been hidden from general view in the past.

So a good starting point, when rival nationalists start polemicizing with each other, is this one: ALL SIDES ARE SQUALID.