Russophobia explained.

I don't know. If you're like we are, you keep going from overspending to underspending on military stuff.

 

yeh, right... and who are THEY? Stupid americans, fascist latvians, bloody ukrainians? Only the russians are good and honest people, but all around them are enemies who want to destroy Russia. And this is not a joke, this is the way of thinkig of many russians. And at the same time Russia invades Ukraine killing thousands of ukraian citisens and annex parts of Ukrane. At the same time russian mass media generates hate to entire coutries and nations, brainwashing russian citizens. At the same time they waits when USA and EU will collapse at once. And about ukrainians, once upon a time russians called ukrainians a brother nation... but as soon as ukrainians faced problems in their country, Russia put s knife in the back of Ukraine - the "brother" nation, teritorial integratiy of wich Russia garantied, russians was a Kain brothers. So after all that every russian, who talks about so called russofobia must look at the mirror, there he will find the creator of this so called russofobia.

 

Not near as hilarious as "Prince Valiant Putin".

 

Well said.

The premise of this thread has to be one of the lamest jokes I have ever seen. It's so bad it's laughable.

 

25 million Russians found themselves outside Russia after the coup d'etat in the USSR. Their national feelings deserve respect. Ukraine and Lithuania adopted the law which prohibits education on the Russian language. This is just one example of how the Pro-Western governments try to oppress the Russian people.

Ukrainians are calling to kill Russians on this the rally. They call to hang Russians on the gallows and cut by knives. I can see and hear it during 25 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

 

really? And you read these laws? Or you read/ watched the russian mass media who talks constantly about bloody ukrainians, who crucified russian children, who want to enslave russians and who organized concantration camps in Ukraine, wich noone had ever seen?

They talked about "moskals"(from the word Moscow), so we can discuss, what these people meen by these word, russian imperialists or russians... Anyway, there are the facts - in presidental election of 2014. right wing candidats un Ukraine could not get the power in country. Dmitrij Jarosh, the leader of right wing movement "Pravij sektor"(Right sector), from wich russian mass media created the nuber one nazi ever lived on earth, who drinks the blod of russian childerns every morning, got only 1% of votes. Where was theese ukrainian russofobs and nazis, why they did not wote for Jarosh? An there is another fact - Russia ocupied Crimeria and organized war on Donbas, in wich ~ 10 000 ukrainian citizens lost there lives. Russia, who garantied the territorial integritiy and security for Ukraine. And what russians can expect after all this? love? respect? Or something else?

 

This is Odessa may 2, 2014. Ukrainians are killing political opponents.



And this is Ukrainian aircraft attacked Lugansk.

 

You can thank Stalin's holodomor for that, 5yr pogroms, forced russification, deportation of local populations and settlements of moskali into the occupied territory, e.g. crimea, eastern Ukraine, gruzin, Baltics etc. Forced russification denied occupants in their own land and language and culture. So if there's some pent up feelings of resentment, one can understand why. If the moskals feel as if they're being marginalized, they can always return to asiatic muscovshchyna and be amongst their own kind...no?

 

I did not kill anyone and not deported. I was born Russian. Now the anti-Russian pigs say that I must repent and suffer because I'm Russian. **** you bastards. You will suffer and die.

 

So now you're threatening people.....???

 

In Odessa there where clashes between pro russian activist, part of them even were citizens of Russia, and pro Ukrainian activists. Russian propaganda try to show this all as the blody massage of russians by ukrainians, but they forgot to tell, that before pro russian demonstration was crashed, pro Russia demonstrans gunfired at pro Ukraine demonstrants, killig several people.
In the case of second video - it old tick to show dead or ingured people, better the women and children, to press on emotions of people. At first they started a war in Ukraine and then they are showing victims of this war, blaiming in this a victim of Russia agression - Ukraine. Nice...

 

Can You backup your supposition with any facts? Russia has never been harmless but if you compare its list of aggressive wars with the list of western countries you will find absolutely different reasoning. The last time Russia had really aggressive wars for territory and resources in XIX century. And most invasions of it was provoked by western states.

If we look at the pretext of conflicts with Georgia and Ukraine it goes back to times when Putin wasn't even born.

The main problem of Russia is that it is regarded as a desirable stash of territory and resources by western leadership. They define information propaganda about Russia to justify their aggression. The WWII soon changed to cold war and USSR wasn't the side who started it. The level of interaction between the states of Warsaw pact was much more democratic comparing to western side. The only difference was ideology which really was the weak point of ours.

 

You are right about the fact was the pretext, but completely wrong with interpretation.
1. The massive camp of protesters against the nationalist Maidan in Kiev was set up long before these bloody events. Pro-Russian camp was a threat to new power in Kiev which came into power in a result of a coup. If it continued the people could demand to break with Ukraine itself and join the people of Donbass. This could be an unlawful demand, but the demands of Maidan also had nothing to do with the law. If Maidan agreed to settle with the conditions signed by Yanukovich, 'maidan leaders' (they were puppets, cause the rating of Klichko, Tyagnibok and Yatsenyuk is around zero) and what is more important European foreign ministries officials.
2. The pro-Ukrainian demonstration was organized by new power. They took the soccer fans and nationalists from different regions. They also had provacators in the pro-Russian camp who took a part of young people for street fighting with pro-Ukrainians. But the most part including women, old people remained where they were in the square next to house of trade unions.
3. Then the street clashes started. The guys who were shooting were definite criminals and they were never found. They were wearing masks and basically the shooting happened to both sides as it used to be in Maidan as well. The people in the streets were just the mass for shooting (videos and bullets). It should be regarded as a crime anyway. In a normal country of course. No matter if a pro-Russian citizen or pro-Ukrainian was killed - it is still a murder and the murderers should be punished no matter what. I wouldn't take responsibility from pro-Russian or nationalist sides. At this stage they were all criminals. It is stupid to come to demonstration of people with different opinions as well. But this was predictable in Ukraine after Maidan. I myself told here several times that Ukraine will fall apart because of civil war in case of nationalist coup.
4. And only after these events with organized protesters from both sides, organized police (pure criminals) and journalists the nationalists inspired by the provactors came to the square with defenseless and harmless people and killed them filming the results in order to terrorize the population, just like ISIS did. So this is a separate crime. With most casualties, brutality and effect. The most bloody battles in Donbass started soon after events in Odessa, beause people from both sides lost their mind because of all that blood and hatred.

Odessa was the point when the mutual co-existence of people with different political views became impossible. Before that I could imagine a peaceful divorce of the citizens of former pre-maidan Ukraine even inside the borders of unified state. The power could be spread

You are absolutely right about the trick. But for some reason you forgot that the emotions of people were electrified during Maidan. I remember the police who started beating the protesters in Maidan in December 2013 when there was not that much people. After the videos of real brutality the protests were greatly inspired and right before the coup there started numerous provocations of nationalists against Berkut police. The policemen were set on fire, beaten with metal chains, while the main mass of the people stood around stage listening to the music, singing songs, dancing and listening to political speeches... Innocent people as well... I still admire these guys from Ukrainian police If there were more of these men Ukraine had a chance. And finally you yourself told that in order to attack the "Kulikovo pole' camp the people were shown corpses of their fellow-protesters shot by guys with masks... This all was a huge and quite 'successful' provocation, which started a full scale civil war in Ukraine which still lasts. It separates the guys with blood on their hands and the guys who want the blood of the others... from both sides. All it was needed to blame Russia of aggression, which has never happened and hopefully won't happen. If Russian troops come to the territory of Ukraine they will bring the justice to all people invoved into civil war. No matter if this will be amnesty for both sides or show executions - the provocations will start against Russians and its military restarting this civil in the all-Russian scale. Putin obviously doesn't want to play this game. Neither do Europeans. Thus this conflict remains inside the borders of any territory which considers to name itself "Ukraine". And it will continue for a long-long time until a new political force changes this situation. And it only is possible if the main powers of the world are distracted from what happens in Ukraine or don't care. It's going to be tough...

 

Anti-Russian pigs is not people.

 

Here is the real attitude of civilians to the Ukrainian occupation regime.

 

They are. Moreover some of the people who perform these murders are Russians. At least ethnically.

 

Which demands of Maidan was unlawful?
Demonstrations in Odessa was organized by Kiev? If so, then why Odessa police was on pro Russian demonstrants side, why they allaw pro russian demonstrants to shoot at ukrainians, why after this mess cheaf of Odessa police Dmitry Fuchedzhi escaped to Russia?
On fact there was an vacuum of power in Ukraina. Explotig this situation, Russia annexed Crimeria and tried to occupay all Souteast of Ukraine.

What nationalist coup? Ukrainian nationalist? You meen that prime minister of Ukraina Vladimir Groisman is ukrainian nacionalist? Or the leadrer of parlament oppositoin - Rabinovich, is the ukrainian nacinalist? I bet they are jews and your words are nonsense.

Yeh... beating the peaceful students by police and the victims of war, it is the same, what difference. You know, in Russia its normal when police beats peacefull demonstrants, noone gives a deam about it, but in many other countrys people do not allow goverment treat them like an animals.

There are no civil war in Ukraine, there is Russian invasion backed by local colobrannts - often just criminals and lumpens, or the brainwashed people, who believed russian propaganda.

 

Here is the mindset of average so called "russian patriot". They have been told, that Russia did only good things, Russia never attacked anyone and awerybody ownes Russia something for its good deeds. But all around there are enemies, russophobs, fashists, who hates russians because they are so rich, so good and so successful.

 

Is it the people, too?

 

I am not a Russian patriot. I am a patriot of the humanity. The humanity without the anti-Russian pigs and other bastards who hate people on an ethnic, gender or other characteristics.

 

How do you think, wich is not fake picture?

 

So in your opinion...anyone who is "anti russian" is not a people?!?), This is funny!

 

Let me guess....Beria's NKVD dressed as SS Das Reich....wouldn't be first time moskali used that as an excuse to murder people).

 

Another 1-line poster!

 

), A so called russian, using patriot and humanity in the same sentence sounds almost comical.