Sally Kohn wants straight daughter to be gay

When she is picking out her child's reading materials and suggesting how she should play with her toys that crosses the line with me. This isn't a case of her daughter playing "kill the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" with her Barbie, GI Joe and Ken dolls, in which case I understand a parent correcting that behavior, this is Kohn telling her daughter how to play with her toys and what to read. Its not much of a choice when the authority figure in your life pushes you towards one decision versus the other. Ask anyone who has lived under a dictatorship how that works.

Kids should be kids. So long as her daughter isn't saying racist or homophobic things just let it play out how it will. I am willing to bet good money that phychiatric studies support the theory that kids who were allowed to be themselves instead of incotrinated grow up to be more well adjusted.

 

Most parents do that. I wasn't allowed to play with dolls or paint my fingernails and such. My folks controlled what I read and watched on television. That was called being a good parent when they did it. It probably still is today.

All kids are indoctrinated. With their parents religion, their parents values, their parents ideals. You know what parenting is right?

Do you think it's wrong for parents to instill values in their children?

 

if the child continues to be immersed in an environment of homosexual sex, I have no doubt that the child will choose the homosexual lifestyle

 

I doubt they are having sex with the child.

 

The chances of a lesbian mother giving birth to a lesbian girl are no different from a straight mother giving birth to a lesbian girl. In both cases, the odds are very much against it. No amount of "immersion" is going to change that. Studies show that girls and boys are strongly (I mean STRONGLY) socialized into feminine and masculine roles from the instant of birth, by parents and by everyone else. This concerted effort at socialization has no effect. None. The child has no more choice over it's orientation than it does over its parents.

And here we see a typical case. Despite determined parental efforts to "steer" the child's orientation, it's had no effect. She likes boys.

 

Most of what you post above I actually agree with but that is not the issue I have with the OP, that issue is the assumption being made by it's author when saying "I wonder when the indoctrination and manipulation of this poor girl will begin. " those two words have been deliberately chosen to try and foist an image of a woman who will stop at nothing to "make" her daughter gay, and that the author has absolutely no idea of the difference between teaching something and indoctrinating someone. Whatever books Sally buys for her daughter does not equate to the assumed fact that they are the only books she buys.

 

You bias is in the words you choose to use, words that it is plainly obvious you will corrupt to suit your bias. as to your question life is a path who knows where it will lead .. do you?

That is about the level I expected, cherry picking posts in order to misrepresent and bolster your confirmation bias.

 

Nope, The OP, IF you had bothered to read it claims that Sally will indoctrinate and manipulate her daughter into becoming a homosexual .. I take it you know what indoctrinate and manipulate mean?

Where as a less biased report plainly shows that is not the case, Sally will certainly TEACH (very different from indoctrinate) her daughter about homosexuality and that there are more family structures than the "traditional" one, but nowhere does it equate to what the OP is trying to establish.

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you wouldn't as anything else wouldn't fit your agenda.

 

If she wants a lesbian daughter, this is understandable. Parents want children to be like them.

If she thinks she can engineer a lesbian daughter, she is kidding herself. Her daughter is what she is. Accept it and deal with it.

 

You are asking the wrong person. I was indoctrinated with a bunch of nonsense. The only good part about it all was that I received a far superior education than if I had gone to a public school......except for the whole believing in Genesis nonsense.

I have no problems installing good values like hard work, honesty, NOT SHARING, and helping others but this isn't that. This is telling a little girl who is playing house with her teddy bears, "Honey, you know that both koala bears might be males right?" Why the hell does a little girl even have to consider that to begin with, she is playing with koala bears. Let her play and she can find out about that stuff later on. What's next does she need to be taught lessons on race relations while she is playing with crayons? They are freaking crayons.

If your parents picked your books out for you then you ran in different circles than I did. Half the fun of taking kids to the library or Barnes Noble was letting them run around and get excited about which books they wanted.

 

As far as Sally is concerned installing the values that homosexuality is not a problem and that there are other types of families other than traditional is also not a problem . .you just see it as a problem.

 

This seems to go beyond just making her comfortable with gay people which I don't have a problem with. The phrase "I want my daughter to be a lesbian" seems to be completely ignored here. Whether she realizes it or not she is trying to manipulate her child to turn out to be her ideal image which happens to include becoming a lesbian. She shouldn't want her daughter to be anything but happy and successful. Anything other than that is just projection and yes I find that a big problem these days. Sally Kohn is just a control freak.

But hey, at least its not as creepy deplorable as Lena Dunham's admission.

 

It is not being ignored, I just don't think it has the implication some are associating with it. Parents say they want their children to be lots of things, that does not imply they are going to force them to be it .. one must assume that by your logic if someone gives a bible to child they are manipulating them to become Christian, or if a school teaches abstinence sex education only they are indoctrinating them to believe without question that sex before marriage is dirty and a sin.

Strange really I wanted my son to become a theoretical mathematician, gave him all sorts of maths based books .. in the end he works with me building computers with integrated Eyegaze control for people with such things as locked in syndrome, MND and brain injuries who have lost the ability to speak or move. Here take a look - http://www.smartboxat.com/

Seen and discussed Lena Dunham, still waiting for a response on whether a child of that age can be an abuser.

 

Have you not read a single thing I posted. I specifically compared her to Evangelical Christians. She is no different, just on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Giving your kid math books is NOT the same as wanting them to be heterosexual or homosexual so don't even try and compare the two. Math is not political, it's only abused by politicians. Sally Kohn is a very political person, obviously given her career choice. The sad fact that she wants her daughter to turn out like her for political and selfish reasons is very revealing about her personality. Normal parents just want their kids to be happy and successful (ie the mathematics) they shouldn't worry about their sexual orientation. The only valid comparison is if you wanted your kid to be a gay or straight mathematician exclusively.

By the way math sucks. Give him programming books. He will make more money.

Not to get off track to much but Lena Dunham abused her sister for 10 years till she was 17. If it was just the 7 year old thing most people would let it go but her defenders are willfully oblivious to the continued abuse till she was almost an adult. That is inexcusable. She is a sexual predator and predictably the white racist feminist crowd rallies to her defense. Seems a bevy of black feminists are the ones calling her out on it.

Regarding the work have you looked at how Google Glass does it. I never used one myself as I am not a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag, but much of it seems eye tracking activated. I am also pretty sure that is what Stephen Hawking uses with his board. Very interesting stuff. I could never use it myself though.

Edit: nm.......Hawking uses something that recognizes facial movements.

 

They don't and they know they don't on something like this. You may prefer that your kid be right handed or be tall if you are, but you don't do much to change those either.

Surely this thread can't be based on such foolish assumptions.

 

She is that child's parent, she knows what is best. You do not.

They absolutely would not have let me read any books about Satanism, or if there were books with gay characters they wouldn't have let me read those. But otherwise they let me pick what I wanted.

 

And if you had a gay son, I assume you would want them to be straight. Does that mean you would force them to be straight through indoctination, as you are claiming she plans with her daughter?

 

on the above we agree, one is not "born homosexual"

the child will choose the gay lifestyle on her own if she so wishes.

 

I wouldn't personally. But then again, I would never say that he chose a different path. That would imply that being gay is a choice which I do not believe. It looks like Sally does though.

 

This thread is based on Sally implying that you choose to be straight or gay as noted by her 'take my path' comment. So the question is, does Sally think you take a gay 'path' or are you born that way?

 

I chose the right words and I gave you the definitions for my words. Get over it. I understand you prefer to make this about me instead of a high profile gay woman who implied that you can take a 'path' to being gay. So can you?

 

I can infer anything I want from her words. If she implies that you can take a 'path' to being gay and she would prefer her daughter be gay, it is fair to ask if she will teach her to be gay.

 

Okay. Fair enough as far as your situation goes. My question is twofold. Does Sally think that one can take a 'path' to being gay or are you born that way. Ans since she would prefer her daughter took her 'path', will Sally try to put her on that path.

 

I don't know what she will do. I am asking since she thinks you choose to be gay and wants her daughter to take her 'path', what does she plan to do to get her on that path?

 

How does she plan to get her daughter to take her 'path'?