Sanctuary cities head to court...

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  1. SillyAmerican

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    The murder rate in Chicago continues to climb; it now stands at 416 people murdered (through the end of July 2017). With that as backdrop, which of the following two statements makes most sense?

    Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago:
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    Sarah Flores, DOJ Spokeswoman
    Does the Mayor of the sanctuary city of Chicago have some explaining to do to city residents? You know, the citizens that elected him and pay him to represent them?

    Comments?
     
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    1. End the drug war
    2. Constitutional carry for all law abiding citizens over 18.
    3. End the welfare state, or at least implement a welfare system which doesn't discourage employment, like the UBI.
    4. Much stronger penalties for violent crime.
    5. Foster good community relations by abandoning the identity politics of division.
    6. Substantially reform family court to stop breaking families up.

    That ought to do it.
     
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    More than L.A. and New York combined?


    What the hell?



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    Sanctuary cities head to court...
    Only a loony liberal would use the law (court) to help them continue to break the law. Rahm is a disgrace to our country. Those who voted for him only vote the D party and they are a bigger disgrace to our country.
     
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    • Please tell me how a Gang Shooting at a Holiday Barbeque in a Public Park correlates with illegal immigration?
    • Please tell me how a Road Rage Shooting on a Interstate 94 correlates with illegal immigration?
    • Please tell me how a Domestic Neighbors Dispute over Grass Cutting correlates with illegal immigration?
    • Please tell me how a Meth Lab Robbery in Evanston correlates with illegal immigration?


    1. End the drug war - Nancy Reagan Died in 2916, try another slogan
    2. Constitutional carry for all law abiding citizens over 18. - What the hell does that have to do with illegal immigration?
    3. End the welfare state, or at least implement a welfare system which doesn't discourage employment, like the UBI. - Illegal Immigrants don't get Welfare.
    4. Much stronger penalties for violent crime. - What's stronger than the death penalty?
    5. Foster good community relations by abandoning the identity politics of division. - WTF
    6. Substantially reform family court to stop breaking families up. - What do you think Sanctuary is?
     
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    Yeah, I agree. If memory serves me well, I think last time the only other VIABLE choice to Rahm was an even farther loony-left candidate, an immigrant maybe. That's before it was discovered Rahm's police dept withheld info about the death of a black man by the police dept for the year before the election. Go figure.

    It seems no self-respecting republican would even try to run for office in Chicago. Maybe an investigation of the voting apparatus in Chicago is in order.

    Steve
     
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    Gang shootings, road rage, domestic disputes, and meth labs have nothing to do with illegal immigration. There, I answered your questions.

    Now a question for you. Please tell me why the federal government is obligated to provide funds to a city which decides to ignore federal law?
     
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    Federal funding has long been the big stick used to make states and cities comply with federal regulations. Club Chicago like a baby seal!!!!! :deadhorse:
     
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    Where does it say those funds are contingent on following the orders of Washington?

    When did the wrong wing stop supporting State sovereignty?
     
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    It doesn't have to "say" it. It is POLICY of those holding office.

    If you mean leftists, they never did support state sovereignty except when it comes to Sanctuary Cities. If you mean republicans then that shows how little you know about the the laws of our country. How "wrong wing" can YOU get?

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    Show me the law saying so.

    So through your childish obfuscation you admit that righties no longer support State sovereignty and you are ALL about big government.
     
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    Where does it say they aren't? States don't pay taxes to the feds. People do. When the states start violating FEDERAL immigration policy, too bad, so sad. Isn't it a recurring leftist theme that it's the federal governments purview and responsibility to enforce immigration law? Lead, follow, or GTF out of the way. It's a simple concept.
     
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    Where is the law saying it is the responsibility of States to enforce immigration law. That is strictly the responsibility of the Fed Gov.
     
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    Let's see. Show me the law.

    Where does the Constitution say it is the responsibility of the States to enforce immigration law? It is entirely the responsibility of the Fed Gov.

    Trump refuses to do his job and dumps it on the States.
     
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    There's no law, it is policy.

    If you even have a slight clue, you would know that immigration laws were originally designed to PROTECT THE AMERICAN WORKER. The US Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates there are 27 MILLION legal and illegal immigrants in our workforce today. That's 16.7 percent of the ENTIRE WORKFORCE.

    A little intelligence on your part would tell you that is NEGATIVELY impacting our American workers both in JOBS and WAGES, and therefore the economy.

    Sheeesh!
    Steve
     
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    Look it up for yourself. It's statutory, not constitutional. I'm tired of spoon feeding YOU people.

    ICE is trying to do their job but certain cities and states are not only ignoring federal law but willfully hampering federal efforts to enforce regulations. When that starts happening there will be consequences. Why should Washington DC fund police departments that are directly in conflict with ICE efforts to enforce the law?
     
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    American workers aren't part of the democrat voter base.
     
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    Yeah, when dems get enough illegal immigrant voters to put them back in office again, then they plan to raise minimum wages to try and "fix" the problem they created by allowing illegal immigrants into the country in the first place. What bunch of idiots that would even vote for them for self-destruction.

    That guy above doesn't appear to be willing to continue defending sanctuary cities so I'll go ahead and post a link for others from the Bureau of Labor Statistics about the destruction they've caused.

    https://www.bls.gov/news.release/forbrn.nr0.htm

    Steve
     
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    The law in question is Section 1373(a) of Title 8 of the U.S. Code:
    Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.

    Incorrect. See above.
     
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    It was too early in the morning for me. Maybe I need to start drinking coffee. :)

    What I meant to say is that it has been policy to either enforce laws or not enforce laws, and I didn't know the specific law pertaining to sanctuary cities. But it is definitely the responsibility of the federal gov to enforce ALL immigration laws, and it's upheld by the Supreme Court. That's what the idiot was arguing against.

    The problem of not enforcing laws is why we are in this bad situation in the first place. Unfortunately the media has done an excellent job of brainwashing dems into believing it is merely an ideological difference when in fact it is an economic problem for every citizen whether dem or rep. And then for obvious reasons, it can be hazardous to your health when you're shot by an illegal that has been deported multiple times and protected by sanctuary cities. It could have been prevented by the federal gov doing its job and local politicians following the laws.

    Steve
     
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    The answer is simple, it's not orders from Washington, it's the law of the land.

    Sovereignty doesn't include breaking Federal Law.
     
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