Sanctuary officials could get 5 years in prison under ‘Libby Schaaf Act’

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Pass it.

    Pass it now.

    I guess this is how things have to be from now on.

    We need laws specific to government officials and employees since the regular laws, the ones for us peasants, somehow don't apply.

    Ordinary citizen tips off a criminal that the police are coming and that ordinary citizen is now an accomplice subject to share in liability and prosecution.

    Government person tips off a criminal, brags about, says they'll do it again, and the law does nothing.

    I blame the inept Jeff Sessions who clearly doesn't want to do his job.

    So lets pass laws like this one and take the responsibility off his shoulders.
     
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    Great, start with Libby Schaaf.
     
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    He needs to resign.
     
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    I'm sympathetic for local governments if stretched for law enforcement manpower and diverting some to round up non-criminal illegals (meant ones doing other significant enough crime other than being here illegally a criminal illegals) and they don't help Federal officials more than the minimum that is different than openly defying the Federal authority.

    A Little Humor!:
     
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    I love to see such laws as it would be fun seeing juries made up of second generation or so even first generation Americans convicting anyone under such a law in such states as CA.

    Hopefully this law can be pass before congress is no longer under the control of the Republicans as in the next midterm election.

    The hell with m13 gang members we need to stop the protection of seven eleven clerks and such similar evil people that ICE been spending most of their resources tracking down along with anyone stupid enough to speak Spanish in public near a ICE agent.

    Five years is not long enough.

     
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    You're assuming that immigrants are just incapable of seeing past their skin color to find justice.

    Pretty insulting.

    I guess if that's the case then there is grounds to reject any Hispanic or immigrant juror, right? /eyeroll

    Plus if a person commits a crime and the evidence shows it beyond any doubt and the jury says "not guilty cause Brown" then the judge has grounds to declare a mistrial through jury misconduct.
     
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    As Trump had already pointed out you can not trust judges with Mexican family backgrounds to rule fairly let alone Juries members.

    Oh beside people with Spanish family ties no one who can speak Spanish or had ever been a member of the ACLU or even the democrat party should be allow to serve on such juries.

    Love it when the far right feel comfortable enough to come out of hiding.

    Footnote jury nullification not guilty verdicts under our current laws can not be overrule once issue but what the hell you still have time to pass more laws to say otherwise along with other anti Spanish laws to removed citizenship rights to anyone with any family ties to Latins.
     
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    One judge with a demonstrated bias that happened to be Hispanic doesn't mean all Hispanics are incapable of setting bias aside in the name of justice.

    And if a jury threw a case because they felt some sort of tribalist connection to the defendant then a judge could declare mistrial by means of jury misconduct although I skipped over an important step which would be that the prosecutor would have to file a motion regarding the misconduct to which the judge would either support or dismiss.

    Its all part of the problem of jury nullification - power vs legal authority, a question that remains unanswered as it stems a Constitutional conflict.

    However jury nullification is supported by people not agreeing with the law which is a far cry different from a Hispanic jury not agreeing the law should be applied to Hispanics (which was the premise you posed).
     
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    Why not include Federal officials? Oh, that's right....
    :roflol:
     
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    If local officials are going to be treasonous and endanger the public, the situation must be addressed.
     
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    I am a dark skinned second generation American of Portuguese decent. I'd convict 'em in a hot NY second. My Grand Parents came to the US legally. They had to have a job waiting for them and have a sponsor who signed a form that they would be financially responsible for them. We need to get back to that.
     
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    Anyone with a brain would have objected to running the unlikable Hillary Clinton for President. Your side elected Trump, few actually liked him, but when forced to choose between the two.....Immigration is the sole venue of the Federal Government Obama said that when he went after Arizona's own immigration law. The Supremacy clause in the Constitution will do the same for Sanctuary cities and states.
     
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    My father waited years before he was approved for a work visa. He came here legally and worked his ass off. I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit by and let a bunch of illegals from Mexico and South American come here illegally in mass simply to appease some pathetic white guilt and globalist agenda.
     
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    Well said!
     
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    Yes indeed the Judge with family ties to Mexico dare to rule against Trump for ripping off a large groups of people for millions and he must be bias to do so. A Trump supporter indeed
    Would you care to link to one time in US history that a not guilty verdict was thrown out for jury nullification after the fact??????

    Jurors can be dismiss from a jury before a verdict is given for claim misconduct including stating that they will use the power of jury nullification or a mistrial declare for that matter however after repeat after a verdict of not guilty is given that verdict can not be set aside.

    A guilty verdict can be set aside but not a not guilty verdict after the fact.
     
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    Why would you assume first or 2nd generation citizens would side with illegals are you suggesting all people new to this country are here illegally?

    Trump targets MS-13 and the media pitches a fit now you are suggesting ICE is not going after MS-13.. Make your minds!
     
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    Those "Family Ties to Mexico had nothing to do with it it was Ties to LA Raza...
     
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    See Trump statements concerning a judge who dare to rule again him.
     
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    Aren't there already federal laws against harboring, aiding and abetting, perverting the course of justice?
     
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    Given the hundreds men power raids to deal with such as 7/11 clerks that somehow the idea that MS-13 is higher on ICE list then 7/11 clerks seems unlikely.

    Now given that ICE agents are assuming that anyone who speak Spanish in public is here illegally so assuming that someone is illegal seem good enough for our government so it should be good enough for all of us. LOL
     
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    It's good to see someone who has the courage to stand up and declare his solidarity with a politician who tipped off illegal felons
    (murder, rape, drug dealing, etc.) and gave them notice to run off and scatter.
    Justice was really well served.
     
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    Do not forget the very very dangerous 7/11 clerks that it was worth using hundreds of agents to round up or such people as my once ultralight flight instructor or the ultralight dealership english engine mechanic who was here illegal from the UK of all places.
     
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    Trump pointed out that racist judges that don't like you shouldn't be the judge in a case involving you.
     
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    An the proof that the judge is racist is that he rule against Trump and force him to give back some of the funds he had taken in the name of his so call university.
     
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