Saudi Arabia Is Scrubbing Hate Speech from School Books

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    What is errant nonsense Bob -- is your claim "Barack backed a wide range of Syrian opposition"

    Not in Syria during first 5 years of war he didn't - which is what we are talking about - the Anti Assad Insurgency.

    There was no "Wide Range" The fighters were Islamist Jihadists - almost to the man.

    Why do you try to keep propping up Obama's "Moderate Rebel Lie" - when this Moderate Rebel Fantasy has been proven false to you - with links and so on - at least 10 times - and you have agreed that the DIA and congress were not lying. - when they accused Obama of Arming Al Qaeda...

    You desperately tried to find some Moderates .. posted a few links .. but, even the links you posted showed there was no Moderates .. the groups you said "Here are the Moderates" - all turned out to be Al Qaeda..

    Then when Obama went out to try and find "Moderates" in 2014-2015 after the effort to arm the Islamic State went from covert to overt .. and he didn't find any either .. as was proven to you with links.


    So either put up .. or shut up .. Where are these anti Assad Moderates you keep fantasizing about ?
     
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    Interesting... especially coming on the heels of SA and several other Muslim states cozying up with Israelis.

    I have my doubts and suspect things may not be as they seem.
     
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    Of course there are, the Syrian Democratic Forces and Syrian Democratic Council.
    Syrian Democratic Forces - Wikipedia

    You're just an Assad supporter who wants to maintain his tyranny. Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    Of course there are and my links prove exactly the opposite, you're just an Assad supporter who wants to maintain his tyranny. Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    Undoubtedly but it's still a step in the right direction.
     
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    The Syrian Democratic Forces -are not what is being discussed . and you know it - having been told this 10 times now .. yet return to your own vomit time after time..

    What part of .. the Kurds were not the Anti Assad proxy army supported by Obama .. and this is not from the correct time period.

    Why are you so insistent on this self deception ? and why say this nonsense to me when you it is false what you are saying.
     
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    You have yet to find an single moderate fighting force that was fighting against Assad - and are now making false claims about me - aka "building a strawman" - because your position is lost.

    I supported the Moderates in this Conflict which are those fighting for Assad - fighting against Al Qaeda/IS - the people you support and claim are "Moderates" .. the people you claim represent freedom and Democracy .. in the footsteps of your Beloved Obama and Brother El Saud.

    and that is not a false claim :) Where your claims about me - and about the rebels in Syria - are demonstrable falsehoods - Even admitted as falsehoods by yourself in previous posts .. so twisted and turned around is your mind that you can not remember up from down..
     
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    Yes I have, over and over again, you just can't accept that you've been proven wrong. Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    You keep coming up with links - that do not support your claim.. The DIA said "no moderate Rebels" .. I said .. do you think they were lying..
    you said No.

    Now you are contradicting yourself - and falsely claiming you have found moderate anti Assad rebels = (not the Kurds) which you desperately try to pretend that you have not been told this 20 times ...

    and then you pretend that the Islamic State wanted to Establish a free and democratic society.

    You are all bent out of shape Bob .. the why are you so in love with the El Saud and the Islamic State ... Strict Sharia Theocracy is what you are desperately trying to apologize for... claiming Al Qaeda and IS were the good guys .. "Moderates". ...

    Holy Persnickle Batman - we got ourselves a case of infinitely think rose colored glasses !
     
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    Wow... that's an interesting and problematic question!

    While that question was not aimed at me, I will offer a lesson from history: In President Wilson's 1917 famous speech to congress he demonized European Christian monarchies and praised revolutionaries who had toppled such a monarch to 'make the world safe for democracy'. But as it turned out, toppling that country's monarch ushered in 70 years of brutal draconian antichirst mass-murdering Bolshevism!

    So, my answer would be... why can't Americans mind their own business and stop trying to get involved in everyone elses' ?!
     
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    You know that's a lie and you're just flannelling. Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    Because that way the bad guys take over the world?
     
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    The USA winds up supporting the bad guys!

    Communists have taken over country after country after country worldwide since 1917 because the USA helped foster revolution in Russia! Then after decades of Communist mass-destruction and mass-murder, the USA allied with Stalin and sent Stalin billions of dollars in military aid to prevent the fall of Communism!
     
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    Of course I did not support arming the insurgency in Syria .. First off this is a violation of international law .. and second - as per the DIA assessment in 2012 - the Major force driving the insurgency was Al Qaeda and various Al Qaeda Spawn.

    Why would you want to US to support Al Qaeda - who's goal was not a free and democratic society - but a strict sharia theocracy.

    With the help of US - Al Qaeda realized this goal.

    So the question to you - is why do you support Al Qaeda - in their quest to turn Syria into a Islamic State.
     
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    Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    How'd the US help foster revolution in Russia exactly? The US sent troops to put the commies down? As for WW2, better the devil you know, it wasn't the USSR which declared war on America.
     
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    I answered - I did not back US support for the Anti Assad Rebels. Same answer you received over 10 times .. so no need to keep asking - as my answer will not change. What part of "NO" - is not clear to you ?

    Your claim that the Rebels were trying to establish a free and democratic Society is Preposterously false nonsense on steroids - which is why I did not back US support for "The Rebels".

    The Rebels - as their stated objective - the whole call to Holy Jihad - was to fight the evil Secularism. I don't know why you keep trying to claim that Al Qaeda and the Islamic State were "Moderates" .. fighting for freedom and democracy.

    You got really mixed up along the way somewhere .. tricked into thinking that Al Qaeda/ISIS were fighting for "freedom and democracy".
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    US troops did NOT fight against revolutionaries big business and US leaders supported !!

    US president Roosevelt and Taft used economic sanctions to weaken Tsarist Russia to foster US trade interests in the far east. Wall street tycoons supported and helped fund revolution to depose Russia's Christian monarchy. In Wilson's April 1917 war speech to congress, he demonized the monarchies of Europe, praised revolutionaries who had a few weeks earlier deposed Russia's Tsar and called them America's "partner." That was only the first part of the revolution. A few months later, Trotsky [who had been living in New York] and other Bolsheviks leaders furthered the revolution to its Bolshevik end.

    Before the USA entered WW2.... Hitler began to liberate Russia from Bolshevism and FDR enacted "lend-lease" which enabled him to send billions of dollars in military aid and weapons to Stalin to fight against Hitler's liberation of Russia from the evil antichrist Bolsheviks. "White" Russians also fought to help Hitler liberate their Russian homeland from Stalin's church-destroying mass-murdering Bolsheviks. In his 1942 Easter sermon, the archbishop of the Russian Orthodox Church in exile [in Serbia] praised Hitler's "courageous German sword" who had already "liberated" Russian Christians from their evil antichrist Bolshevik oppressors. Russia's archbishop in exile compared Hitler's liberation of Russian lands from the antichrist Bolsheviks as the resurrection of the Christian Russian people! But alas, it was not to be.

    Stalin's Bolshevism [Communism] brutally took over half of Europe and China/Southeast Asia. Since then Americans have fought and died in many wars to try to contain Communism. Communists also foster their evil perverted "Cultural Marxism" which is the evil perverted antichrist soul-and-society-destroying arm of the ongoing international Communist [Bolshevik] revolution!

    So, now how do you like the Boslhevik [Communist] devil the US helped birth [WW1] and spent a fortune save [WW2] ?!
     
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    No, ISIS/AQ were stamped upon by the Syrian Democratic Forces who wish to create a free and democratic Syria. And depose your buddy Assad.
     
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    Hitler began to liberate the USSR from Bolshevism? Oh dear lord! Wilson praised Kerensky and the provisional government, not Lenin and co. The US landed troops in Russia to try to defeat the Communists.
     
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    You know what you are saying is a false nonsense on steroids .. yet you repeat this false claim like a parrot on a broken record - pretending the SDF were the Anti Assad Rebels that Obama armed - when they are not.

    Falsehood and Self Deception is all you have left :)

    Sorry Bob - I know it is painful for you to accept that Obama Armed Al Qaeda - and was allied with them in 2 wars over his tenure - but this is reality I am afraid .. reality that you have already agreed to - but you must have forgotten - that thought too painful to bear .. so it was erased from your memory banks.

    Bob - wake up - you have already agreed that Obama armed Al Qaeda and IS. It was Trump who was in charge when the US turned on its former allies .. and engaged the Kurds to help take Raqqa - the last bastion of IS that the US had Obama had previously been protecting from the Syrian coalition.
     
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    Kerensky's "democratic" provisional government was a cover, a transitional joke that only lasted eight months. International Bolshevik revolutionaries had planned it and were active from the beginning.

    President Wilson [as he says in his April 1917 WW1 war speech to congress] and other US leaders hated the Christian monarchies of Europe and Wilson said the war [WW1] was [supposedly] being fought to make the world safe for democracy. So the USA fostered revolution in Russia. First the February 1917 revolution dethroned the Tsar and destroyed Russia's 900 year old monarchy, then Bolsheviks furthered the revolution and in October 1917 took total control. In other words, during WW1 the US fostered revolution against Russia's Christian Tsar and antichrist Bolshevik revolutionaries won. The first thing Lenin's Bolsheviks did in October 1917 was withdraw Russia from WW1. Then the perverted Bolsheviks overturned all Christian Tsarist moral laws. Antichrist Bolsheviks began their cultural marxist social revolution when they destroyed the fundamental building blocks of Christian society - Christ, church, marriage and family - when they fostered radical women's lib, liberalized divorce, encouraged sex outside marriage, legalized homosexuality, legalized abortion, etc. Next the evil antichrist Bolsheviks destroyed thousands of churches and family farms and mass-murdered millions of Christians!

    The same evil perverted antichrist Bolshevik cultural marxist social revolution was also happening in Germany's weak degenerate Weimar Republic after WW1 destroyed Germany's monarchy. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany and King George V of Britain were all cousins. Tsar Nicholas II [and his family] were imprisoned by the "democrats" and brually murdered by the Bolsheviks, Kaiser Wilhelm II was forced to abdicate and King George V was pressured to change his German family name to Windsor!

    Ironically, it was Weimar Germany's degenerate Bolshevik cultural marxism that disgusted Hitler so much he rose up against it.

    During WW2, Hitler liberated a large portion of western Russia from the evil antichrist Bolsheviks. When Hitler's "courageous German sword" [as the archbishop of the Russian Orthodox Church in exile praised it] liberated Russian lands, Russians were able to reopen/rebuild churches that Stalin had closed/destroyed. So it was no wonder that "White" Russians fought along side Hitler's Germans to liberate their Russian homeland from the "Red" Bolsheviks.

    Meanwhile, FDR sent billions of dollars in "lead-lease" military aid to Stalin's "Red " Bolsheviks!

    The rest... as they say... is history...

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    The USA evacuated what few forces they had in Russia, abandoning "White" Russians and handing Russia over to "RED" Bolsheviks! Which was probably the plan all along.

    The USA is inept at "fighting Communists"... so inept that antichrist Communists and their perverted cultural marxism have won every time and have now taken over the USA itself... and that also fits into the international "RED" Bolsheviks' global plan!

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    Answer my question, do you back the US in their support of the moderate Syrian rebels in order to topple the dictator Assad and establish a free and democratic society?
     
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    Yes, because the White cause was lost, whatever Sidney Reilly and Boris Savinkov thought. It was not 'the plan all along', the US was vituperative in it's opposition to the Communists. The US won the Cold War.
     

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