Saudi Arabia's game.

Yes, our relationships with Israel and SA "undermined U.S. national security." in that is makes the rabid islamic fundamentalist angry and more likely to attack the US. Scheuer thinks the way to win the war on terrorism is to do as the terrorist demand. To not do anything that displeases them.

I dont believe we should allow Islamic fundamentalist to dictate our foreign policy with the threat of terrorist attacks. I would take the opposite approach to show them they cant achieve their goals through terrorism against civilians. Bacause they have many other goals besides ending our support of Israel and Saudi Arabia. Showing them that they can achieve their objectives through terrorism would undermine U.S. national security much more than pissing off the rabid islamic fundamentalist with our Israel and SA foreign policy.

 

Actually, Dixon, no - I do not think that Scheuer thinks the way ahead is to do anything the 'terrorists' demand. Nor do I think he is suggesting 'we don't do anything that displeases them'.

That said, it was the Jews who demonstrated to the world, that terrorism not only works, but in time, they can become national leaders, who pontificate about terrorism.

Is it all terrorism you disapprove of, or only non Jewish terrorism?

Is it merely non state terrorism that you feel must be rejected, or all terrorism?

Over to you...

Jack

 

Margot, I have yet to hear why you think that the criminal mafia who have taken over the US would not be capable of simply inventing a future reason to invade S Arabia, and simply steal their resources, so that they can be divided up between these US elites, and their Jewish supremacist bosses, in Israel?

Indeed, I cannot see why you don't think this would happen, given that's it a pattern in the region.

Do you really think these Talmudic elites would have gone into Iraq or Libya, or soon to be Iran, if any of those three mainly exported humus and dreidels?

Who do Israel buy their oil from at the moment, that's if it isn't given to them for free, by US elites?

It can't be Iran, can it....after all...do not Israel have sanctions against Iran.

Yes they do, so where do they buy it?

Jack

 

Lol this whole thread is a big fail, so Saudi Arabia is doomed because it executed several Iranian criminals. I thought barking like a dog was an Iranian officials' thing, but apparently habits are contagious...

 

Israel buys on the spot market anywhere they can.

Jack, are you familiar with SUSRIS?

 

Okay, then give us your position.

Give us your overview of S Arabia, and how it fits into the scheme of the World.

We are all itching to hear what you have to say.

Thanks

 

Killing Christians is a large part of their goal, just like killing Christians was the goal of the Pharisees in Palestine & Rome in the early days of Christendom.

The principle is the same in US/UK/Israeli, Saudi Muslim war crazies: Enforce the Noahide code to wipe out all Christians.

 

The SPY, Hemper is a fictional character.. and when he claims to have been in Basra, al Wahab was 9 years old and growing up in the Nedj.

You have been duped.

 

The info outlet for relations between US elites and those in Saudi?

Not really.

What of it, that wouldn't stop Saudi being plundered in the future, and the spoils being divided between Israel and their rich Jewish friends in the US.

One of the saddest things in all of this are the dumb Goy, who believe that somehow, by pandering to Jewish supremacists, that the Jewish supremacists are going to be kind to them.

They have no idea what is coming to them.

The Jewish supremacists are only interested in using the dumb Goy, until such a time that they have no longer use for them.

Once they are done with them entirely, then you will see, the US and maybe parts of Europe, left in a state of absolute poverty, due to fighting wars for the Jewish supremacists, due to a never ending flow of our money, that goes to Jewish supremacists, etc.

Time is not far off.

But who will the truly dumb Goy blame?

Each other.

Jack

 

You'd have to kill 23 million Saudis....

Jews would destroy the oil business.. Its really NOT their thing..

And the US military couldn't manage an oilfield. They don't know the difference between a refrigerated step van and a bio weapons lab.

 

No, you don't have to murder all 23 million Saudi's to steal their resources, and control their people.

That said, if that really was the only option in the future, then don't think the lovers of blood, land and money, in Israel, the Jewish supremacists, wouldn't prompt the US to do such a thing. And don't think they wouldn't do as their Jewish masters asked them.

They really are that deluded and dangerous. But as we have seen in other countries, you need not to do this anyway.

You need 'only' kill say 100,000 or 200,000, shatter the entire infrastrucutre, and that would be sufficient.

Heck, Jewish supremacists have managed to host on a a super power for decades, if they can do that, they can certainly figure out a way to crush Saudi's.

Jack

 

Lots of people have fantasized about a scenario that you imagine since 1950. Its ridiculous.

 

In the 1950's of the US, had you suggested that in 2012, Goy would have given tens of billions to Jewish supremacists, shed goy blood for Jewish supremacist interests, and given up their Sentate, Congress, and White House, to serve Jewish supremacists, they would have thought that 'ridiculous', as well.

You do know that the Jews were nothing in the US, in the 50's, yes?

What about now?

How far they have penetrated into America, in such a short time.

Can you even deny this?

Jack

 

I am not pro-Israel, but don't lose your mind, Jack.

 

Another side step.

Address what I wrote.

 

Jack.. your scenario is over the top.. You are no longer objective.

 

Objective?

Um, it is rather hard to look at a sadist, a child kidnapper, or a torturer with objectivity imo.

You seem to think that Saudi Arabia are going to be left in some sort of safe little bubble, once billionaires are done reshaping the ME, and raping their lands, resources, and often their people?

You really think they are going to do ALL of that, which we can SEE NOW, and just sort of remain mates with S Arabia, right?

Take your blinkers off, maybe stop relying on Saudi media.

While this is an large scale orchestrated resource theft, it is ALSO an attempt to kill and murder as many Muslims, along the way, as possible.

You need only LISTEN to the rhetoric that is in the mainstream, to understand and accept this fact.

You need only LOOK at the body count for civilan dead, over the past ten years alone.

Guess what....Muslims from oil rich lands.

Coincidence yes?

And once they have taken what they can from those lands, they are just going to forget all about the Muslims in oil rich S Arabia.

Lol.

Take YOUR blinkers of, Margot.

You are not stupid, therefore, you are in some sort of denial, and perhaps on purpose.

Even when I show you that 'my scenario' is NOT my scenario, but one that was part of a US training programme, you dismiss it entirely.

Tell you what, America at least would not be stupid enough to ignore such a thing, in reverse.

I then factually point out to you that in the 50's, since YOU chose that era, the Jews had little or no real influence in the US, and that it would be entirely false to suggest that back then, Americans even liked or thought about Jews. They didn't. If they did, then the response to them was negative.

I then factually compare those days, to these days.

And conclude that today Jews are absolutely influential, in all key aspects of the US.

How you can even deny that, is past me.

 

Margot focuses on Hemper rather than the bigger picture. Hemper was not the issue.

 

Hemper is a dumb fiction that you should have recognized instantly.

 

Jack, are you living in the ME? The Israelis just aren't that important..You have ramped this up into some hysterical conspiracy. They aren't going to take over the oilfields..

 

Dont know anything about these specific executions. Tend to doubt Press tx's version of any reporting. But, Iran leads the world in executions. Iran leads the word in opiate addicts and most of their executions are for drugs.

 

*Laughs*.

Margot, I barely need to be living in the ME to understand that Israel are not unimportant.

Try asking the next US President if Israel have made themselves be important.

Come on Margot, be honest with yourself.

You are almost affording Israel the same status as San Marino.

Jack

 

Does it?

I would have thought the US would have executed more people.

To name but one.

It was Saudi Arabia that did the executing though.

Not Iran.

 

China probably wins on the basis of total # of executions. Iran leads on a per capita basis. And Its the Iranians that are doing the complaining. Iran would have likely done the same thing to drug trafficers

 

Well, most states in the US have the death penalty, so I don't think you can have that THEN criticise another nation for having it.

Unless you oppose it, in the US.

I have no idea which state or country carries out most executions, I personally do not support a state being able to make good a problem by killing.

We used to have it in my country, but long abandoned it, because it was just considered unsafe.

I would always be wary about giving the state and police too many powers.

Jack