Its like the US used to be .. and that is NOT suppressed.. The Saudis aren't stupid.. they know some people are just gay... and in fact the SAG pays for gender reassignment for those who need it.
Threatening 3% of your population with flogging and execution for being different is, indeed, suppression. The fact that their regime has survived for nearly 90 years proves that they aren't stupid. Yet another thing I disagree with the Saudis on.
Bull ****ing S***! I have posted sourced articles for you. You have posted not one damn thing but your own anecdotes, that are worthless without something to back them up. Now, I have to get out of here for a little while, because I have lost all patience with your absolute willful ignorance. No one said anything about being in people's faces. YOU said that. When you're ready to have an honest conversation, let me know.
See what I mean? They don't execute people for homosexuality in Arabia.. nor are they flogged.. but don't molest young boys.. That could get you beheaded. Pedophilia is a very serious crime in Arabia. What you are missing is that public display of affection or sexuality is not acceptable in their culture.. whether you are heterosexual or homosexual.
Saudi clerics have denounced child marriage which happens infrequently in outback rural villages.. and if you read the Saudi newspapers, you would know the outpouring of rage over these incidents.
The classified section of the 9-11 Report details Saudi funding and assistance to the 9-11 plotters and terrorists.
If it's still classified, how do you know? It was a rhetorical question. I've listened to the same people saying the same things about the Saudi's for as long as you. The truth is we don't know the truth as long as anything is still classified. When do the Kennedy files open? See you in 50 years, or whenever it is we get to learn the truth about 9/11.
Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh is older than dirt and his title is largely an honorarium.. Nobody is listening to him.. certainly not the Saudi people or the government.
There are people in Congress who are older than him. John McCain comes to mind. Anyways, you cannot just dismiss the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and head of the Permanent Committee for Islamic Research and Issuing Fatwas. Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia | Wikipedia.org Permanent Committee for Islamic Research and Issuing Fatwas | Wikipedia.org
Any toad can issue a fatwa.. and he is of a dying breed.. Abdullah has appointed educated clerics to oversee the idiot mutaween and they say that what passes for Islam is often old tribal customs..
I don't know who made the final decision, but he was appointed in 1999, at which time Abdullah was serving as the de facto regent.
That's how arguments with Margot work. 1. You state a fact. 2. She says that you are lying. 3. You provide evidence to support your assertion. 4. She doubles down.
"Hellhole" is right..... I've read many, many sickening stories about the treatment of women in SA. The 'men' treat their goats and donkeys better than they do their women. Never forgot that one story where a 75 yr old woman in SA was beaten and jailed for asking her deceased husband's nephew & friend if they'd bring her some food..... it's 'immoral' in SA for a woman to talk to a man who's not related to her. Don't remember if it's SA or another hellhole where they hang the gays if they're caught........
LOLOL! Where did I miss the part of Leek asking you about your sex life? LOL! You had said you lived in SA and met some prince there 60 yrs ago, so.... he probably doesn't care one way or another about your sex life.... LOLOL.......... thanks for the laugh!
Are you saying that you didn't like living there? 40,000 Americans do... - - - Updated - - - I first met the brothers 60 years ago.. and many times since.
Leek, don't know how long you've been on this board, but Margot has ALWAYS defended and denied the atrocities committed in SA - always.......