Science cannot understand God

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Heretic, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Atheists say that God is impossible, and the "chance" for God's existence, is 0%. But, how are atheists coming to this figure? Why don't they say God is 10% possible or 40% possible? How are they coming to the figure of probability and possibility?

    The real problem with atheists, is they HATE GOD, LOVE SATAN, and want to resist the absolute authority of God. Atheists want to "control their own fate". But, the only reason atheists can do this, is because GOD has gifted MAN with FREE WILL. So atheists can only deny God, by something God has given to them. But, when an atheist TRIES to reject God, they say a bunch of stupid things. They say God is "invisible sky man", or "flying spaghetti monster". How do they know God? How are they coming up with these examples?

    It's easy. Many of these atheists, who are actually fundamentalist zionists, like "wolverine", want to MOCK GOD, and HATE GOD. They only want to paint GOD as something stupid, and foolish, because they feel resentful. They don't want to put GOD in a POSITIVE light. They don't want to admit they're wrong, when they are. They don't want to expose the intellectual INFERIORITY of atheism, agnosticism, and secularism. They don't want to admit that atheists are sillier, stupider, and more childish, compared to theists and religious people.

    Basically, all the atheists and zionists have, are SLANDER TACTICS, and want to paint GOD in a negative light. They want to say God is a "flying spaghetti monster", because this makes them feel better. And, this is how childish they truly are. They want to say the "chance of God's existence is 0%". But, THEN THEY DON'T EXPLAIN WHY THIS! They don't use their precious "science" to explain why God is impossible.

    They only DEFINE GOD as impossible. This is their premise. Atheists claim God is "impossible" from the start, and they won't accept any other idea. Atheists should start to accept that God is NOT IMPOSSIBLE, but absolutely CERTAIN! God is absolutely true.
     
  2. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Citation needed.

    What atheists place a 0% chance on the existence of God?

    Refrain from posting until you provided a legitimate source.
     
  3. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    No citation is needed, zionist.

    First, YOU TELL ME, in your own opinion, what you believe the chance of God's existence is. The onus is on YOU, crypto-zionist, to tell me. You need to justify YOUR position. Mine is clear. The probability for God's existence is 100%.

    Now, it's your turn. What is the probability for God's existence? Tell me, tell us all. Don't be a coward.
     
  4. Prof_Sarcastic

    Prof_Sarcastic New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    3,118
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't hate god, but I do love satan. I mean, in the same way as I love Boba Fett. Two fantastic characters. Of course, Boba Fett is a bad guy, whereas Satan represents the desire not to be ruled without consent, which is admirable. But I digress. God, on the other hand, is a somewhat bland literary construct, it's hard to love or hate the narrative and plotlines around him.
     
  5. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What exactly do your completely unsupported claims here have to do with the thread title?

    I see nothing about science in this OP.
     
  6. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    27,731
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    48
    You should have read the OP...."They don't use their precious "science" to explain why God is impossible." So much for your integrity or your reading skills.
     
  7. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since when does science explain how things are impossible?
     
  8. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Dumbest OP of the month............
     
  9. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    It can't. That's WHY ATHEISTS ARE COMPLETELY WRONG! Atheists claim that "science is on their side", when demanding evidence. The problem is, they have no method of understanding evidence. Atheists are rejecting science, while claiming it is on their side, at the same time.
     
  10. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    13,701
    Likes Received:
    1,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Stereotypes are for those who are just to lazy or stubborn to see anything outside of their own beliefs. You do not have to agree with atheists, but to stereotype them all is just silly.

    How does one use science to explain theology anyway? God is a matter of faith. How does one use science to measure their faith?
     
  11. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    But this is what ALL ATHEISTS BELIEVE, it's no stereotype. Why do atheists CONCLUDE, that the probability of God is 0%? What "science" are they using? How do they describe God? I've already mentioned this, "flying spaghetti monster". This proves their lack of seriousness and maturity.
     
  12. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Who knows and who cares?

    You are unable to prove the existence of your God, so why entertain the thought?
     
  13. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    13,701
    Likes Received:
    1,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Is that an opinion? If not then please post your source.

    I am not an atheist, but I bet an atheist would not describe God. Hard to describe something that you do not believe in. As for the FSM, I think it is a clever argument demonstrating the fact that theology cannot be proven... that it is a matter of faith. I could no more prove the existence of God any more than I could disprove the existence of a FSM.

    Trying to make atheist believe in God is an exercise in futility... but people keep on trying to my amusement.
     
  14. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I want everybody to witness this rsponse by wolverine, who is dodging my question to him. He won't commit to a % of God's probability or existence. He won't put a number on God's existence, because he is a coward. If he does put a number, a "chance", on God's existence, then he knows he is committed to justifying his reasoning for saying God has a probability of existence, less than 100%.
     
  15. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I bet you atheists DO DESCRIBE GOD, as "invisible sky man", or "flying spaghetti monster". You atheists want to ignore description, because you want to DENY GOD, with all of your power. But, you cannot. You cannot deny what exists absolutely. This is your flaw. You don't have a CHOICE to believe, except for the FREE WILL that God had already granted to all men.
     
  16. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    13,701
    Likes Received:
    1,583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Wow, I am done here. You are making your own reality on the fly. Like I said, I am not an atheist... but apparently any who disagree with you are in your view. You are obviously not a reasonable person and here to lecture rather than discuss.
     
  17. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I do not claim to know a %.

    No one does except for the illogical gnostics such as yourself.

    Your point is moot as usual.
     
  18. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    If you are not an atheist, as you claim, then describe God, and tell me the probability of God's existence. Is He 10% possible, 40%, 50%? Tell me something. Prove your position, don't just be wishy-washy.
     
  19. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    So you are an agnostic, wolverine. You "don't know" if God exists or not. You "don't know" the % of God's existence. I do, though. I know it is 100%.
     
  20. Vicariously I

    Vicariously I Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,737
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Meh, I thought this would be more entertaining.
     
  21. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So you know the unknowable?

     
  22. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    God is knowable, because God has spoken to prophets and messiahs before. It is based on degrees of intelligence. Since man has "evolved", and we have higher intelligence now then ever before, our highest human intelligence allows us to get closer to GOD. This is why the most intelligent people in history, are theists, and not atheists. A supremely intelligent human could not possibly deny God. How could he?

    How can YOU deny God? Do you think you're smart enough to deny absolute certainty?
     
  23. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Which is why debating you holds as much point as debating a brick wall.
     
  24. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is no data with which to calculate the probability so the task is impossible. Any answer would be purely speculative.
     
  25. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Many theists love to throw out what they think the possibility to things are. They are usually not even slightly wrong.
     

Share This Page