Science cannot understand God

I never said that weight does not exist... that is your little creature of the mind.

 

A sliding scale is not a concept. It is a simple explanation of a natural phenomena.

Temperature exists regardless of what we call it or how we measure it. Your semantic bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is exactly that: bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

I never said that weight does not exist... that is your little creature of the mind.

 

How is weight a fact then but temperature only a concept?

That is utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Both are natural phenomena and exist independent of the human experience. Even if humans didn't exist to measure them, weight and temperature would still be real.

 

That is BS... 'independent of human experience'... what a laugh. Suppose no human were to exist... then how would there be a cognizance of weight or temperature?
Grow up.

 

Define "human", "exist" and "cognizance".

 

Considering that neither weight nor temperature are capable of possessing knowledge, neither of them is cognizant.

Unless you are an animist and believe that natural phenomena are sentient.

Nice try and bogging down another thread with your sophistry though.

 

You really should go back and look at my final edited post.... haste on your part makes for an untimely response.

 

or a god.


Grow up.

 

Well glory be... look who is back. Seen any new gods in the forest or perhaps in the sea or the air... maybe in the fire? All nature.... take your pick of which one you want to worship today.

 

www.thefreedictionary.com/human
www.thefreedictionary.com/exist
www.thefreedictionary.com/cognizance

There you go.

 

see what i mean.

incorporeal beliefs enable a liar to make up more.

What gods are you talking about? forest, sea, air..........fire....? Do you make up story lines like that all the time? Because you sure wouldnt be talking about me like that (false witness).

worship is for MORONS.

i dont worship, anything!

and since you know that i dont do the 'god' thing to worship then your post is a false witness, a lie.

Does that make YOU a LIAR?

yes or no

 

i prefer hans christian anderson

 

The Father of Lies has many disciples, some cloaked under the guise of 'defending' Christianity.

 

Which definition of "exist" applies here? Please be precise, don't muddle up meaning.

ex·ist (g-zst)intr.v. ex·ist·ed, ex·ist·ing, ex·ists 1. To have actual being; be real.
2. To have life; live: one of the worst actors that ever existed.
3. To live at a minimal level; subsist: barely enough income on which to exist.
4. To continue to be; persist: old customs that still exist in rural areas.
5. To be present under certain circumstances or in a specified place; occur:

 

The father of lies has many disciples who offer a fragment of truth when attempting to obfuscate. You intentionally omitted a definition from the list:
"ex·ist (g-zst)
intr.v. ex·ist·ed, ex·ist·ing, ex·ists
1. To have actual being; be real.

So, I will go with the one that you omitted.

 

No!

Who has made up something, and what is that something that was made up?

The ones that fall under the control of your Mother nature god.

Yeppir... you called them just like I did.

Who needs to make up things when you make up stories like Mother nature being god.

But I am talking about you.... unlike you who call out 'liar' or 'liars' and never identify who you are talking about.

Are you suggesting that you don't have a regard or adoring esteem or devotion toward Mother nature? Be consistent now... we all know how often you rave on about your god that you claim to be Mother nature.

Be serious ... If you don't worship Mother nature, then why do you promote the notion that Mother nature is god?

No! I don't KNOW that you don't worship anything because your constant devotion and promotion to the notion that Mother nature is god makes a clear and convincing piece of evidence that you do worship for Mother nature.

No, but it sure throws a bunch of clouds of doubt around your claims that Mother nature is god.

See immediately above.

 

Have you mislaid your glasses today? lololol

 

forest, sea, air..........fire....?
Yeppir... you called them just like I did.


You made up the idea that i worship any god. That's a lie

by you.

you're under the control of mother nature, and should be flushed


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no story that i made up

as many prior to me, knew the same thing

i identify what post YOU make that are lies all the time.

i love the innocents of babies, butterflies and puppy dogs


and devoted to revealing the good of life, here in heaven

if an all encompassing 'god' as everything you even know, then nature is that 'god'


any other, is just the bull of idiots and liars

worship is what punks with incorporeal beliefs do.

Truth requires ZERO, NONE, absolutely NO worship, just integrity.

that's a lie

and if YOU posted the LIE, what are YOU:
a... a liar
b... of false witness
c..... full of sh't
d.... all of the above






See immediately above.

 

I'm a naturalist as well. To me, what most people think of as god, I think of as nature, the laws of physics, the absence of chaos and the first cause. To some god is spiritual. To me god is simply a word for the way things are. I don't worship the laws of physics. I study them. Knowing about them is useful. They are observable and measurable.

Don't get me wrong. I approve wholeheartedly of the belief in a spiritual god and organized religion. These things have existed in every culture and for good reason. They help prevent chaos in society. The "greater power" is a strong means of keeping things in line. I would never want religion to go away. I just don't use it personally.

We're dealing with the mysterious and the unknown. There is no need to criticize people for failing to view the mysterious and unknown in the same way you do.

 

So you are seriously arguing that is no humans are in an area, that area has no temperature?

That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Temperature, weight, mass, radioactivity, conductivity, and every other physical factor that we can measure exist even if we aren't measuring them.

 

Wow your comprehension is just a bit lacking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero

Absolute zero is the theoretical lowest possible temperature. More formally, it is the theoretical temperature at which entropy reaches its minimum value. The laws of thermodynamics state that absolute zero cannot be reached using only thermodynamic means. A system at absolute zero still possesses quantum mechanical zero-point energy, the energy of its ground state. The kinetic energy of the ground state cannot be removed. However, in the classical interpretation, it is zero and the thermal energy of matter vanishes.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/absolute+zero

absolute zero
n.
The theoretical temperature at which substances possess no thermal energy, equal to -273.15°C, or -459.67°F.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/absolute zero

Definition of ABSOLUTE ZERO
: a theoretical temperature characterized by complete absence of heat and motion and equivalent to exactly −273.15°C or −459.67°F

Should I keep going?

 

And where is your proof of claim? Have none? Thought you could do better than that.

Then the name is not based on FACT, therefore it is a modern day myth created by a group of scientists? WOW.

And now comes the rationalizations in an attempt to explain this modern day myth.

More man-made laws, this time laws applying to a modern day myth.

And where is the proof of claim, considering that absolute zero is a modern day myth?

Proof of claim is where? Remember, you are dealing with a modern day myth, so you first have to convert the myth to a fact before you can even begin to validate the claim you made immediately above.

No need to keep on going, both of those definitions clearly show that you are dealing with a modern day myth... something that has not been proven to exist.

 

LOL, I see the Herectic skit will be quickly followed by the Incorporeal one.

 

I see the usual atheist and/or non-theist tactic of avoidance (avoiding the answering of questions) is being played out once again by "Vicariously I". And to think that I was holding such high hopes that the atheists and other non-theists would someday own up to answering questions that are directed either to them or to the forum in general.