Sebellius NOT FIRED; ACA Phone Operator Who Tells the Truth, IS FIRED

A failed launch obstructs itself Dujac...

 

what a bunch of malarkey

the aca hasn't failed, the gop's attempts to obstruct it are what has failed

 

The ACA itself hasn't failed, it hasn't succeeded or failed yet, but the portal website which we spent 1/2 a BILLION dollars on HAS FAILED. That is called a fact Dujac.

 

No, the weblaunch has failed. Why dont you read some news sometime, and spare us this foolishness.

https://www.google.com/#q=ACA+launch+fails

 

I can't believe anyone would have to be informed of this....but here we are I guess. Obviously some are either doing blind damage control, or they arent paying attention.

 

Oh, he knows it's failed. NO ONE could be that stupid or uninformed. Just the typical poster who ignores that which s/he doesn't want to see.

 

Indeed you didnt realise alot. This money wasnt blown. The money wasnt spent on the requirement for launch at a certain date.

And your rubbish about cronies is just that.

 

Indeed she can manage her project, thats proven already. What she hasnt done is ensure its running from the launch date. However, she has built in a six month teething timeframe. So she really should be running it. And lets agree we dont have the terms of employment.

I tend to fire people when theyve not been working efficiently, not been communicating and not been leading matters forward - when things go wrong, that is to be expected with complex operations - its never a reason for immediately dismissal and instead would entirely counter productive..

How on earth can you say she cant do the job and how do you suddenly get someone who can do the job? This project is a few years in the making and you think someone can be parachuted in now?

Havent you any sense of responsibility?

Indeed it didnt, so why, given you think her position is as mere figurehead anyway, exactly do you want to replace her? What is the actual benefit?

After all, as a figurehead according to you, any such personnel change would thus be purely comestic reform.

Oh dont worry, most people reading this are laughing at you and think you right wingers are a bunch of blowhard ignorant, lazy lunatics. Thats been the case here for years and isnt going to change.

 

You're right. The money wasn't blown - it was wasted. The money was supposed to be spent on a system that actually worked, and now taxpayers are going to have to waste more money to fix it.

And yes, healthcare.gov was supposed to be up and running by a certain date - a date that Obama & Co. had 3 years to meet.

There are no good reasons for this failure - only lame excuses.

 

Part of properly and effectively managing this project was ensuring that it was up and running from the launch date. Indeed, she has proven that she cannot manage this project.

Furthermore, one would think that the man who's name is on this HC fiasco would have made sure it was up and running on time, as well. The incompetence is evident from top to bottom.

 

WTF are you talking about?

The money was spent on creating a system, that it works is the final element, not the entire cost.

Think of it like an oil rig, the money is spent on the oil rig, if it isnt operational on a certain date does that mean all the money is wasted? No of course not.

 

Indeed part of, not all of...

His name isnt on it, its the ACA. And its his job to propose legislation and a few other things. Micro management of individual projects isnt his job and never was for any President. You know that, therefore its wrong to make this argument.

 

With that many millions of taxpayer dollars and publicity riding on it, you let them go. Whatever you do with your couple paper boys when they throw on the wrong porch isn't the same as this.

Of course. She doesnt do the nuts and bolts. She could be removed from this and not replaced at all. Her job was to make sure it rolled out...it flopped.

Should be obvious by who would not reward failure, and who would just who has a sense of it. Hint...it's not you.

Accountability. We dont pay millions of dollars to flop. Telling that you need this pointed out to you.

I'll take that risk. Anyone who is laughing at me because of my sensibility...well...why would I care?

 

Absolutely not, so much riding on it youre risking millions by sudden personnel changes at crucial times during complex operations.
And how do you know her job is not reqired? Where do you get this from? There are numerous decisions to be made that require an authority to make a final decision. Her job was not to make sure it rolled out on Oct 1st, thats nonsense.

Indeed it should also be obvious who would put at risk a complex operation because you want an example made over your political tantrum. Hint....its you.

Wrong, you actually do. You pay out millions for complex operations that have a number of benchmarks and are judged so.
Moreover accountability goes both ways, if you fire someone willy nilly, you can then be fired for being so reckless with personnel and not paying attention to what exactly is in the terms of employment.....

You do care, your on here to shoot your mouth and hope someone will take you seriously.

 

As for accountability, she has been held accountable, the trouble is you think she must be fired. Which is reckless and irresponsible of you and therefore you also should be held accountable since anyway you dont even have a name for someone who can replace her nor do you know her terms of employment nor do you know the exact responsibilities and duties of her job....

So wheres your accountability Rich? Or does it only go one way?

 

Considering her track record, she could probably be replaced with the human equivalent of an intellectual door knob. I suggest giving Vice President Joe Biden her current slot. At least it would give him something constructive to do.

 

What a stupid rant, not one serious point made. Go have a lie down.

 

Yes, but at least it was amusing in a minor sort of way, wasn't it? I mean in all honesty you do have to give me that much, yes?

 

You're at the core of the problem with their thinking now.

No, these people have no sense of responsibility at all (although they like to talk about it in the abstract a lot).

They come from the "I've got mine, screw you" mentality.

Remember that these are the people who cheered loudly for an irresponsible freshman Senator who, singlehandedly, caused a fiscal crisis and did serious damage to his own poltical party.

Most of them also cheered loudly for war in the wrong country (although quite a few of them now (including several on this board) who deny that they ever did.

No, they don't know how to manage anything.

Everything is spin lines, code words, talking points, and simplistic nostrums that appeal to their narrow and resentful world view.

No leaders or even responsible team members here.

 

LOL...she doesnt even seem to know for sure what her job is. But she "thinks" it's to make sure the product rolls out successfully...in her own words.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...-affordable-care-act-98715.html#ixzz2jCcCe7A0


Obviously that failed....but you dont care about accountability because you're an outsider. it's not your tax dollars being pissed away is it?

It's on you to show how it would be "at risk"...the only reason she hasnt been fired isnt out of concern for the program or her direction...but due to the fact they feel the GOP would fight them on new replacements.

more of your utter cluelessness on display. You dont even have a job do you?

A failed rollout of your project is a job killer. You call this "willy nilly" hahah showing you havent got an ounce of knowledge. If you are appointed as a lead, to make sure something hits its targets, and you failed.....you couldnt handle the job, and shouldnt keep it. Someday when you actually get off the couch and work, maybe you'll learn that.

In the real world...people who cant do their jobs get let go, or at least replaced from important projects when it becomes clear they arent cutting it. Money isnt endless and free you know.

Wrong again. I'm a screen name with no personal attachment to anyone here. I could care less how anyone here views me...much less the lowest common denominators like yourself.

 

Really?

How so.

Product missed it's launch, and shes still "leading" it. They just had to delay the implementation for 6 weeks, something they never wanted to do...shes still "leading" it. Lets see if she's ever really held accountable. Perhaps this week.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/po...ius-set-to-be-questioned-on-flawed-obamacare/

At the end of the day, you and I are never going to reach common ground it seems. You think when someone pays Millions of dollars...(or almost half a billion).. for something, that it is acceptable to not deliver and keep your job. Myself actually being in the working world, knows people do not pay for failure. You might get away with it on a quickly replaced 2 dollar coffee, or egg sandwich...but not a half a billion dollar program.

Someday when you get off the couch and enter the workforce in your country perhaps that light bulb will illuminate.

 

Another utopian feeler heard from. Choosing a company that had already been fired by Canada for failing to deliver....then spending half a Billion dollars on a website that didnt work, and those who would think that a head should roll are the ones without a sense of responsibility??

In case you dont recognize it....thats bad leadership on display.

Sure, she should keep her job. She's doing great leading this project and making sure deadlines and targets are met....heck it's only tax payer dollars right? They can always grab more, the people have an unlimited supply....so just throw it around.

Good lord. You guys are really out there.

 

it has some problems which will soon be fixed

“These plans and Medicaid are directed toward prevention and wellness, and that is the future of health care and I think everybody knows it.”

[video=youtube;AE0mpNQvtaQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0mpNQvtaQ[/video]

 

Well, it's no suprise it has problems is it.

When you choose a company that was already fired by canada...for not being able to deliver, and you appoint a head who "thinks" she knows what her job is.....you were doomed from the start. Poor leadership will guarantee problems.

 

obama's leadership trumps the gop's on any day