Segregation is back in style

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Lil Mike, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    No, do you have a problem with student organizations for white people? It really depends on the reason for the organization. Their are white fraternities and black frats, there could be the "Amish Club" or the "Ginger Girls" , but the 3K club I would down on. You've never heard of Black culture? It's a thing...check it out.
     
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    No, I have never heard of "black" culture anymore than "white" culture or "brown culture". Race is not culture.

    By "black" maybe you mean rasta, rap, tribal African, inner city gang culture, or something else. But no, a race is not a culture. Just because a person's skin is black doesn't mean you know anything about their culture. They could instead have a culture you associate in your mind with another race.
     
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  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    By "Black culture" I meant African American culture, not Jamaican American culture or Nigerian American culture and you know it...you just like to argue for arguments sake.
     
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    What praytell is "African American" culture? That sounds very racist to me to presume a culture by skin tone.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    On Antarctica, where happy penguins live, they can be excused for not knowing anything about African American culture that was uniquely molded by three centuries of slavery and one century of segregation and open racism.
     
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    Are you telling me that all black people in the USA were slaves or are the descendants of American slaves?

    And thank you for recognizing Antarctic culture. We rarely get noticed, except when you humans engage in gross cultural appropriation and wear tuxedos.
     
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    When I hear African-American the first thing that comes to my mind is I wonder what year it was that they immigrated from Africa to America.
     
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    Some of them it was hundred years ago. Some came as slaves and their kids are here today. Others came from Africa this afternoon. Others came from countries having nothing to do with Africa. Racists like to pretend they are all the same. Meanwhile there are non-black people who immigrate from Africa, with a lot of African culture, but calling them African American is taboo.
     
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    My ancestry is English but I was born in the USA so I don't feel the need to call myself English American.

    I guess if they had to hyphenate their name American African would be more accurate.

    Unless of course they were born in Africa and immigrated here in their lifetime.

    Identifying yourself as something before American first is just another way to segregate
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Nope, reread what I wrote. Their culture is informed by the groups past experiences which includes four centuries of hardship. You just go out of your way to argue.
    BTW I answered the question, but you never did answer the question: Do you have a problem with student organizations for white people?
     
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    There is no such unified cultural group that it makes any sense to equate to a race. To do so is racist.
     
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    Oh course African-American is a culture, a 'race' to the extent that races are real and an ethnicity.

     
  13. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So all the African Americans (who turn out to be mostly black) who agree that they have a unique and distinct culture are all racists? One of you is wrong.
     
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    African American is most Definitely NOT a color.
     
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    If they think that their culture is their race, then yes. There are plenty of other black people who have nothing to do and want nothing to do with that culture.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I'll keep playing. There are plenty of other black people who have nothing to do and want nothing to do with that culture. because they come from other cultures.
    Do you have a problem with student organizations for white people?
     
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    That exclude non-white people? Yes I do. You don't?
     
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    Dodge, that wasn't the question.
     
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    It wasn't? What is a "student organization for white people" if not one designed to exclude non-white people?
     
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    What a negative attitude you have and this is getting silly. Student organizations are designed to include those that have a common interest. There's the Muslim Women's Assoc. Was it designed to exclude Christian men? There is, and this is real, Hamzath "the first competitive all-male Bollywood Fusion dance team built up of students who love entertaining and expressing themselves through dance". Would a non-South Asian woman who can't dance be interested in joining? Well maybe, but she might not make the cut. Why would you say a student organization designed around the common interests of white people not be able to exist?
     
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    So you are in favor of whites only student organizations on campus? How about housing and cafeterias?
     
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    And what is that specific culture, please? Describe it.
     
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    If they're based on the INTERESTS, then there would be no need to involve any racialism in the title or intent. EG, Thai Food cooking clubs. Where I live you'd be lucky to get a Thai even running the thing, much less any Thais joining. It's very clear that it has nothing to do with anything but FOOD.
     
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    What is that unique and distinct culture?
     
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    First, that's not what you wrote, as shown above. You wrote "organizations for white people".

    Second, what interests are you equating to being white?
     
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