Selective Outrage when It Comes to Racism

Call me anything you want, just don't call me collect.

 

Can I call you Betty? And Betty, if I call you, will you call me, "Al"?

 

Perhaps, but as you know MLK was wayyyy ahead of his time. As Ive studied him extensively, you should know the very last thing MLK would want is black people to be treated differently in any way from a white person. Saying its not a racist comment when its a black person saying but it is if its white, is in direct opposition to his belief. I find it fascinating he was so far ahead of the pack that almost half a century later people still don't grasp what his point was. Its been illustrated perfectly in this thread multiple times now.

 

Yeah I see it clearly that's the problem. I always see things clearly, its a curse.
Your stance. Black guy says it = ok White guy says it = not ok. The only difference is skin color. Is one person superior over the other in your stance? The answer is Yes. One can say it the other cant. By YOUR definition its racism.

 

Its not about racism. Wide spread racism went out a long time ago.

Its about money and power. The race industry has a nice gig, it keeps them in fancy clothes and expensive cars and jetting around the nation to be on tv. Its in their interest to keep the pretense of racism alive. All they have to do is keep up the Big Lie with a lot of talking and the occasional racist whether real or the product of PR.

A lot of politicians, and all the "progressives", have built their political lives on dividing the people and pitting them against each other. Race works nicely there, the "progressives" will never let racism die, even if they have to invent racists.

 

incorrect. again you responded without reading. i deliberately bolded the world intent in intentionally hoping you pick up that when i said if he "uses it to intentionally be malicious towards a member of another race". I was NOT saying they are being treated differently based on the color of the skin.

 

Bingo! Perceptive thinking always cuts to the heart of any issue.

Can one black call another Uncle Tom without it being racist? Strictly speaking racism is the belief in the superiority, or inferiority, of one race over another. But isn't it also racist to suppose that all members of a race will think and act in lockstep, based entirely on their racial makeup?

This is seen as engaging in "racialism" as opposed to "racism" but the intent is the same: to keep some people in ideological boxes from which
they are made mutes by social ostracism and crushing group think.

Rep. Bennie is doing nothing more than a little old fashioned bullying and by any name, it's shameful.

 

I think it does matter who is making the comment. Context is important. I think part of the problem is that racism is overused in so many situations that the pop culture definition of it has become all encompassing. Just like the terms liberal and conservative. Big blanket words that are interpreted differently in so many ways that they all morph into one big...well...blanket.

But, I don't see "Uncle Tom" as being a racist slight and I've read the story by Harriet Beecher Stowe that it was taken from. I get the meaning behind it and why this dolt might have chosen to use it, but I don't see racism, even if a white person says it. It's one of those things that sort of appears racist, but when you really look at it, it's not.

Personally I think it's dumb and unimaginative to insult someone with terms that are racist and terms that may not be racist but are highly associated with being so. The English language contains enough words to be creative about it without coming off as a dip(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Parse the words anyway you want. Your stance is black guy says it = ok White says it = not ok. Is that correct? Its a yes or no.

 

socially constructed identity on a macro level causes similar responses to an event by those who identify with those identities on a personal level. that's macro sociology, nothing controversial, its been studied, just science.

except how you put it, that seemed kind of bigoted.

 

Good post. Completely agree. I'd venture to say and guess that I've personally experienced more overt racism than anyone on this thread but I can't even remember the last time I called someone that. It's heavy hammer and not every rude comment is a nail. The fever swamp scream and cry about the 'liberals' overusing the term and then do the exact same thing on steroids in even more credibility stretching situations.Certain cases are obvious (the Deadbeat Rancher, Clipper Man, etc) but 'cepting stuff like that everyone should grab a brewski, climb into a hammock and chill.

 

Disney can make a cartoon with a tar baby in it based in a story from a collection originally intended to preserve black folk tales and it is swell. A republican uses the phrase tar baby and suddenly it is an outrageous affront to blacks in liberal land, though I think they quickly forgave it when it was John Kerry who used it.

.....and I don't care if folks think it is racist or not, that was one cool little rabbit.

[video=youtube;S4D470YSl2Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4D470YSl2Y[/video]

 

again incorrect. no. my stance is it's about intent, one derogatory, and one racist if it was to intentionally be malicious towards a member of another race.

If you want to call it parsing going ahead, making it black=ok, white=bad is your straw man.

 

I don't question the phenomenon.
I just think it's a sign of emotional well being when not all members of a minority group are expected to think, act and feel exactly alike.

Really? I don't see how.

 

Yes racism is always retarded but it is not racist to comment about people of your race because you can not have bad intentions about yourself.

 

No....

 

I'm more upset with Michael Vick being back into the NFL after getting in trouble for dog fighting then I am at what a man said in private.

 

We are all racist/prejudiced in some way, shape or form under one circumstance or another. Why do people get so bent out of shape about it? I have the same thought when I hear a white person claim discrimination as I do a black person 95% of the time--grow the heck up.

 

No you are dead wrong it isn't even close of a comparison the name uncle tom has racial implication. you cant rightfully call some one white uncle tom. there is only one race that it can be applied to and that is black so it is a slight on a race and a differing belief

 

your debating skills never fail to amaze me

 

MLK wanted programs to advance blacks, he would have and did support AA.

It's actually websters definition of racism - but what does it know over some random guy on the internet.
Don't get me wrong - the race thing is far outplayed and overhyped by a certain minority but on this instance there is a difference.
Should the guy lost his job over what he said? I don't care. Private organization - their rules

 

It's funny how conservatives pretend to be outraged at blacks calling conservative blacks "uncle toms", yet these hypocrites will be the first to call any white person who doesn't identify with conservatism, or who voted for Obama, a "self loathing white", or "white guilt".

 

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.​

Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

King wrote that “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years, must now to something special for him, in order to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis.” King’s organization began “Operation Breadbasket,” an early AA-type program. Here’s how Dr. King described the program in Where Do We Go From Here?

Feel free to read more here and here

Not saying your quote isn't ideal and should be strived towards (AA is a racist program in itself) - it just isn't what he meant in context

 

If you goggle the biological definition of race and read the studies by experts in the field there is only one race of humans still alive. It is agreed upon by experts in the field on levels similar to climatologist that agree with human caused global warming. So by your dictionary definition of racist nobody can actual be a racist. Correct? Or is science only valid when it supports a platform? I personal believe anyone that judges another person based on skin color is a racist. As the concept of race changes the use of the word racist should evolve as well.