Serious question to those who use "truther" as a slur...

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  1. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Do you consider yourselves "anti-truthers?"
     
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    Methinks many CHOOSE to see it as a slur in order to make complaints (let's face it, no-one whinges like a truther whinges). I prefer 'Liar' as a name for 9/11 non-thinkers who believe in CD and other silly tales, but many would get butthurt and whine.


    Choose the collective term you want and I will comply:

    a). crank :weed:

    b). liar :bored:

    c). take a step back and don't look him in the eye, children. :hippie:

    d). I've landed a right one here! :woot:

    e). Kaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy................

    f). Extremist Jihadi supporter. (this is my favourite, and I think I'll change to using that term in future)

    I can think of many more, but many on here are a little precious about such things (whinging about it distracts from the lies).
     
  3. SamSkwamch

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    Thanks for your honesty, anti-truther.

    Could you imagine, even for a second, with all the energy you and your ilk put into finding problems with what professional architects, engineers, high-ranking military figures and even some high ranking government leaders have pointed out about the story we are supposed to believe, what you could come up with?
     
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    Anti illogical conspiracy theorist.
     
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    Shinebox Well-Known Member

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    how many of those are no-planers like yourself ... do you have a list? ...
     
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    I think I'll go with 'Jihadi sympathisers' in future, although, 'traitor' is also applicable.
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    You should use the quote function when making such an accusation. It can be quite handy. :fart:


    Interesting, check this out as this is just one example of someone who might understand what happened that day just a tad better than even you...

    [video=youtube;H5KsrDdMpMw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5KsrDdMpMw[/video]
     
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    LOLOL Well, that was dumb. And a groupie gave it a like! Priceless!
     
  9. SamSkwamch

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    It is an honor to be able to discuss this topic with someone who understands the global intelligence community better than a highly decorated US General who served for 32 years and was last responsible for all of the army's strategic intelligence around the world.

    I'd love your take here as well:

    “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.
    --Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland who resigned from the Commission, stating the above

    And here:

    “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”
    --9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey

    And here:

    “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
    --The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry
     
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    “There is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control … Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a ‘conspiracy Theory’ does not change the truth. It seems, ‘Something is rotten in the State.’ “

    --U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal, Capt. Daniel Davis
     
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    My take? It's quote mining that didn't check the quotes upon the finalisation of the report. It's a classic form of truther misrepresentation. Read Farmer's book 'The Ground Truth' for evidence where the commissioners changed their mind.
     
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    Ignorance of the processes at that time and the resultant confusion is rife within the Truther world. Also, when there was an indication what was actually happening, jets were scrambled.
     
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    OK, cool, I'll get right on that for ya.

    How bout your take here:


    “If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot-I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to-if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!“
    --Director of the U.S. “Star Wars” space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions, Col. Robert Bowman

    He also stated that 9/11 was an inside job.
     
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    what was wrong with my quote function? ... technical problems on your end? ... I asked a simple question ...
     
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    A Truther wife and someone not trained in physics is all you got?
     
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    so? ... cranks come from all walks of life ... I was in the Air Force for six years ... pilots are human like with rest of us with idiosyncrasies and agendas ... his statement means nothing in the grand scheme ...
     
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    How about answering the no plane question concerning all your experts Sam? ...
     
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    Hmmm, OK then, let's move on.

    What about:

    “we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on”
    --Congressman, Ron Paul who called for a new 9/11 investigation

    And other Congressmen and Senators like: Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Lincoln Chaffee, Dan Hamburg, and Curt Weldon who showed us that the U.S. tracked the hijackers before 9/11, and stated that he was open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.

    - - - Updated - - -

    There is a whole thread on it. I went on there to ask Bob to stop talking about it if you want to know what I said.
     
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    “at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.” - John Farmer
     
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    I am loling because when I posted it, that was his response.

    It never ceases to amaze me how far some will go to protect there belief system.
     
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    you state many people but the "he" comes into it ... citation needed ... who was "he" that wanted info about explosives? ...

    and I'm not interested in your thread about all the professionals you cite as no planers because it doesn't exist ... you're lying ...
     
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    Maybe John Farmer is a "truther"? It sounds like he doesn't believe what they told him.
     
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    I, nor anyone I have quoted mentioned no planers!

    Reading comprehension issues. -1
     
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    but you're a no planer Sam ... you want to use all these supposed experts (for some reason) yet how many of these "top" engineers, architects, military personnel and government people believe in your crank bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? ,,, probably none, so why even bring it up with your extremist views? ...

    what theory are you pushing? ... you have certainly started enough threads ... you are all over the place and cannot bring a cogent argument to the board ...

    what is it Sam ... CGI? ... or the Jews?

    go back to your Xbox ...
     
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    That is why I pointed out the quote function. I never mentioned anything about no planes. Nobody I have quoted did either.

    Reading comprehension fail. -2
     

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