that is my point; why do women require that men lie to get sex from them and claim they don't like liars?
I am pretty sure we would prefer not being lied to. If you just want sex, say it. If you're looking for a relationship, tell us. No one likes being played or lied to.
in case you missed; that is what i have been doing. all i got for my honesty was to get called a creep. it almost makes me want to be a liar so i can get laid more. but, i don't want women to call me a liar, afterward. now, i just let women lie to me and let me miss turn to know they aren't serious about a serious relationship in modern times.
"There is not one single sexual relationship around today that has not existed since humans first stood upright!" Marriage between a man and a woman only for the purpose or procreation was fiorst defined by the Catholic Churc h at the council of Nicea in 590 A.D.
While marriage had existed in ancient times before the Catholic Church, it was not traditionally thought of as being between a man and a woman only, and, at least to the best of my knowledge, had not been formalized into this "traditional" view.
It would be nice if women were more willing to "play the game of life" with us, instead of "playing the game of Monopoly" and engendering so many anti-trust issues.