One argument I often hear in favor of abortion on demand is that in countries which prohibit abortion, such as Ireland, women just travel to the US or other European countries to obtain abortions which would be illegal in that country. I think a solution to this problem would be for Ireland and other pro-life countries to ban air travel for pregnant women, to prevent them from obtaining illegal abortions.
And ferry travel. But first they would have to do mandatory monthly pregnancy tests. And how would they prevent women from getting abortion pills by mail? Jail for all women of reproductive age seems like the only solution.
Give who the option of jail or sterilization? - - - Updated - - - Maybe they should just shoot all planes out of the sky just in case there's a pregnant woman aboard And if the crew survives they're jailed for being accessories....
They can be let out when they marry, since they must be allowed to be used as breeding stock in a marriage sanctioned by God....but a Womb Cop must accompany them at all times, even in the bedroom and bathroom.
That's easy for the Misogynist Club members ...force all women buying tickets to anywhere to have a pregnancy test....which they will line up to watch with drool running down their chins... It would be easier and more preferrable to the Misogynist Club if ALL women were just put into stalls in barns and only brought out to be bred ... - - - Updated - - - That is exactly what the Misogynist/Anti-Choice Club members want.....they can't experience sex any other way ....
I think NOBODY should ever be allowed to travel 'cause they MIGHT commit an act that stupid people might object to..... This thread is ridiculous....
Kinda sounds like the incremental creep to tyrannical legislature. First you tell a person whether they can or can't decide to abort their own child. Then you want to confine, restrict travel for pregnant women under, as I can only imagine, the suspicion that they are going to seek an abortion elsewhere. No one feels uncomfortable at the personal space being violated here?
I don't Think you understand......the Anti-Choice Misogynists Club members WANT tyRanny over wOmen...they believe women have no right to "personal space " because they aren't reaLLy human but breeding animals.
Well I agree with you in that society feels it can intrude on the personal decision of the mother and/or couple. One of the things I hated about the debate was that they usually tend to center the abortion issue on the female, but I think that the male partner is usually complicit with the idea also, if not the one forcing the woman to abort. That's why I say 'couple'. To me, this is like living in a community where local Christians made your life hell because you didn't follow some social practice of theirs that you didn't feel comfortable with. This whole debate amounts to peer-pressure and bullying a person into accepting the conditions society imposes on them. It's a fine example of how these American patriots of free will can howl foul-play one day, and foul, themselves, the next. America is full of contradictions.
Naturally there is no serious answer forthcoming from folks like Anders and SpaceCricket....there can't be. And thus the point is proven....you cannot actually have a national abortion ban (except "for show") and it work. They are left saying "Okay, so it won't stop them all...it'll stop some." Which merely shows they want the image of being "moral"....not actually stopping abortions. If they did, they would have to create a totalitarian police state against women...i.e. Taliban Afghanistan.
Mandatory ultrasounds. Seriously, they make all the plane passengers pass through metal detectors and (in the USA and Australia) imaging devices. Why not have a separate line for women who appear to be of reproductive age, and quickly pass them on a conveyor belt through an MRI machine? An MRI imaging machine can be much smaller and less expensive if it does not have to create images in fine detail, which would not be necessary here. Really, they already do invassive imaging on passengers. Why not do it on women of reproductive age also? http://dontscan.us/
What do you mean by "also"? Aren't women already "passengers"? Did it ever occur to you that's it's no one's business if a passenger is pregnant? Did it ever occur to you that just because a pregnant woman is flying it doesn't mean she's going to get an abortion? How totally illogical and bizarre to think that way. NOW you even want to control women to the point of not allowing them to fly and I bet you would object to being told that, for YOU, it's all about, and ONLY about controlling women... YOU don't want women to be allowed to fly because they might get a legal medical procedure... I don't think men should be allowed to fly because it's obvious the only reason they fly out of their country is to break the law....RIGHT? I can read men's minds just like you can read women's minds.
If they don't work...then why are you guys so scared of it?!?!? BTW, I can get a warrent and PROVE if you own an illegal weapon (machine gun, whatever).....how do PROVE a women is three weeks preganant?
Just to be clear...are you ACTUALLY being serious? Or does sarcasm prove the point that the "pro-lifers" know themselves they cannot win?
I'll answer because he never does......yes, Anti-Choicers want bigger government controlling women...and that stance assures them less and less popularity and support. Their sick extremism targeting women assures them of less and less support...it's a good thing And whackytrollthreads also help
In that case we should ban airtravel for people who do drugs...and who would drink being underaged. - - - Updated - - - If women want to travel to a country that allows abortion you can't and would not be able to stop them. We can control actions of people in the United States...by the laws we enact.
It was actually a problem that the government did attempt to do so. A clause has since been inserted into the constitution to clarify that the right to life of the unborn cannot be used to infringe the rights of women to travel for services legal in another jurisdiction. It is hypocrisy of the the highest order and enshrined in our constitution.