Should Ireland ban air travel for pregnant women?

For those on the "pro-life" side who ever deny the charge that it's about "controlling women"?....churchmouse just blew your denial. Thanks, churchmouse.

 

Oh, but despite the fact they've been unable to get rid of that for forty years...."soon" they'll change that. Always "soon".

 

I was going to point that out but you beat me to it!

 

What about requiring tthat pregnant women be required to post a bond before they are allowed to get on a plane? They would not get their money refunded until after they returned, with the unborn life inside them still alive and well. If these women did get an abortion abroad, it would be like the equivalent of a fine.

Wouldn't this type of law be like what is found in the Bible? Blood money for killing an unborn baby.

SpaceCricket's idea might actually have a good chance of passing. It is Ireland, afterall. The irish public is well informed what abortion is, and what it actually does to hapless little human lives.

Ireland might not be able to directly criminalise abortions obtained abroad, but it could potentially try to dissuade women from leaving the country while they are pregnant. Having to post bonds would be an excellent idea. It might also help increase government revenues, which the irish government desperately needs right now. They already tax cigarrettes, why not do the same thing with pregnant women travelling for abortion?

 

What did another poster say about control?

Yup, it's ALL about controlling women.....too bad you never answer direct questions or I'd ask you why not do that to [B]everyone[/B] just in case they do something that's legal in the country they fly to but not in their own???

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There is just something so sick and diseased about those who have a psychotic need to control and punish others....isn't that a "god complex' or something??

 

The government has a right to control, when it is to stop a person who is trying to murder someone else.

Ironically it is abortion supporters who almost always vote for the political parties that try to control everyone else.
Pro-choicers just LOVE control. Time to give them a dose of their own medicine.

Please be sure to mention this when the debate comes to gun control or light bulb bans.

 

Absolutely- and make all women travelling take mandatory pregnancy tests before boarding the plane.

Matter of fact- why not just ban women from travelling out of Ireland at all?

Got to do something to make sure those women can't decide what to do with their bodies.

 

They can and they do. It's called attempted murder. If a pregnant woman is walking into an abortion clinic, I don't think anyone doubts what she is about to do.

Women who are trying to get abortions seek to control the human life inside them. Seems to me that choicers are hypocrites for accusing lifers of trying to control women. Lifer's do not want to control women. They just do not want women to control the fetus.

Abortions are not really done on the woman, you know. An abortion goes directly after the fetus within her. Ironic how pro-choicers claim abortion is about the woman's body.

If pregnant women want to get a surgical procedure done on their own bodies, they are welcome to do so.

 

Only in the same way that a removing a tumor is not a surgical procedure.

Glad to see the Control Women's Body Police have it all figured out- prevent women from travelling to prevent them from controlling their bodies.

 

I still think charging pregnant women for two passengers would be a good idea.

 

No matter how many times you drool "murder" it still isn't...what don't you understand about that...abortion, no matter what anyone calls it, is legal....





Anders:"""""They can and they do. It's called attempted murder. """


Only if murder is physically ATTEMPTED....just because you want thought police reading your mind doesn't mean they could or should.



Anders: """"If a pregnant woman is walking into an abortion clinic, I don't think anyone doubts what she is about to do."""



No they don't, she could be doing any number of LEGAL procedures, gettng a mammogram, getting her BC, getting an abortion.......if you walk into a bank should the police just assume you're going to rob it and arrest you?

 

It's one step away from putting those BAD women (women who enjoyed sex) into stalls in barns like other broodstock......and Anti-Choicer's wet dream...

 

I still think my idea of charging pregnant women as two passengers is a good one.
The government could mandate that airlines would have to charge pregnant women twice as much as regular passengers. (The USA is also going to impose such a price fixing mandate in its healthcare law, telling insurance companies that they cannot charge certain customers more than a certain percentage)

Pregnant women would get the added surcharge refunded to them when they returned with the pregnant baby still intact.

 

Blame George W. Bush. He was president when the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 was passed..

 

What's so great is that all your extremism (screaming
MURDER", incarcerating women) doesn't do one thing to get decent people on your side...it pushes them farther away....



Oh, a dietician once said "You are what you eat"....

 

In order for it to be attempted murder, there has to be an attempt .. a pregnant woman getting on a plane is an attempt for her to go on holiday, visit friends/relatives, or even to get an abortion .. how do you tell Anders, or are you just assuming that all pregnant woman who want to get on a plane are only doing it for one reason .. to get an abortion .. In that case we had better stop all air traffic for muslims, they might want to blow it up, or for men in general, they might be going abroad to have sex with minors, or cheat on their wives, or do drugs in Amsterdam .. ignorant doesn't even come close to you.

They don't "seek" to control the life, they do control it, so tell me Anders who else has control of the life inside them, do you, does the state ( I know you'd like that), who else but the woman can sustain the fetus until its birth, who else .. boy the answer to this should be interesting.

what do you call turning over a part of the body to state ownership, if its not control . tell me Anders one other law that stops ownership of ones own body or parts of it, even for a short period of time.

Yep it does, and quite rightly so, if the woman chooses, the less the woman has to suffer the better .. probably why over 80% of all abortions are done prior to week 12

They do, they have the unwanted contents of their uterus removed

 

Here's a gem...."""""Pro-choicers just LOVE control.""""



Maybe it's just a language problem???




(Pretty blue bolded above is mine)