Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

This is actually a rather serious option because the history of WWII proves that a constitutional monarchy comes in really handy during a time of extreme crisis.

COVID 19 has certainly put the world economy into a pretty serious economic crisis.

Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy explains the logic for this possibility:

https://britam.org/messiah.html

Yair Davidiy:
Since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 the USA has often helped protect the State of Israel from destruction. The USA has not however really helped Israel expand her borders. On the contrary the USA has often forced Israel to give up territories it had liberated and to constrict her borders, but maybe that will change. Maybe the USA and Britain will help Israel expand her borders in the future as the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is supposed to do. Ingathers the Exiles “Kol HaTor” says [2.40] “His [i.e. Joseph’s] bow abode in strength” (Genesis 49;24). This should be an important principle for us. We have to stand obstinately strong in the holy work of gathering in the exiles which is the task of the first redeemer [i.e. of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]. Purifies the Land of Israel “Kol HaTor” says [2.41] “And Joseph was governor over the land” (Genesis 42;6). This means he will overcome all the forces of impurity. This is one of the great tasks of the First Redeemer [of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]: to extirpate the spirit of impurity from the country by means of settling the Holy Land. When the Holy Land is not settled [with Israelites] a spirit of impurity settles over it. [When the Holy Land is settled with Israelites the Land becomes pure]. Joshua ben Nun Was a Forerunner “Kol HaTor” says [2.44]

The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:

[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.

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DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Theoretically a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Hour" and / or a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Dollar" and / or a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Shekel" could be used to pay off the national debts of both the USA as well as Israel.

..... Dennis Tate
Central - Nova, N. S., B0J3C0, Canada
April 20, 2021

Mr. Donald J. Trump 45th President of the United States of America:

Re: Proposal for the Creation of a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Hour" and / or "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Dollar."

Dear Mr. President:

I myself attempt to do one thousand hours annually as a volunteer writer all over the internet troubleshooting serious problems. I taught English as a Second Language in Quito, Ecuador in 2001 and 2002 and some of what I write has my former students at La Escula del Futuro and Universidad Technologica de Israel de Quito in mind as I write but YOU SIR ARE IN MY OPINION THE NUMBER ONE VOLUNTEER ON THIS EARTH at this critical time in history!!!!!!!!!

Last Saturday my wife had me listening to Prophet Robin Bullock and he predicted NEW MONEY because the old money had "cobwebs on it!"

Dr. Cindy Jacobs predicted that the time was coming when the USA dollar and the Canadian dollar would go to par value.

.... "The Constitution prohibits individual states from printing and issuing paper money as legal tender, but they are allowed to use coins as currency, said Gatch. Individual communities, however, are able to create their own currencies -- including paper notes. Anyone can do it -- as long as the money is easily distinguishable from U.S. dollars and values are tied to the U.S. dollar so that income remains taxable." (Blake Ellis, CNN Money, Local Currencies in the USA We Don't Trust, January 27, 2012).

Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 :
... "Jesus said that this unbelieving world is not going to accept you, but He said, “Do not fear, for I have overcome the world.” What is it that is bothering you today? You might not think that you have access to the Father, but it has been provided to you. You might think that you cannot just go to the Father and ask Him for something. The first thing you should ask the Father is to open your eyes. Your relationship with God is going to drive out fear. You have to grasp that God is not limiting you. He has never limited you. The Holy Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost and took the ceiling off. You can go as high and as far as you want.

If you would believe, God would give you the ability to completely pay off our national debt. God has a way of paying off our debt in our country. There is a way to do it. God knows that secret. But instead of focusing on our country, what about focusing on your bills? What does the Holy Spirit want to tell you by pulling back a veil that will cause you to be debt-free within the year? That will happen if you believe. The Holy Spirit has so much more for you, but you have limited Him. Because you have limited Him, He can’t speak to you. Because of that, people that are prophetic can’t come to you and confirm what God has said because you won’t hear it.

You can trust God. Relationships that you are having trouble with can be resolved tomorrow morning. If you accept what God is saying, the Spirit of God will enforce a blessing in your life to the point where you will see your family members and friends start to respond. " (Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 )

This message will be going out to dozens of your support groups all over the internet soon and it is important to know that I believe that this must be accomplished from the nation of Israel for many reasons. More information on this can be found at:

"After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green..."
on politicalforum .com by DennisTate.

God bless you and keep you Sir!

Shalom from Nova Scotia, Canada.

Dennis Tate

p. s. Other than for the aspects of this that will be done from the nation of Israel much of this can be accomplished from the two cities of Edmonton and Calgary Alberta..... and Red Deer, Alberta that is pretty much in the middle between these two cities. Sir.... please consider you and Mr. Michael J. Lindell producing a semi-reality science fiction film series set in the time of Premier Bible Bill Aberhart?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...off-in-one-year.580877/page-5#post-1072579212

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Assuming the validity or at least partial validity of the Gilgul Cycle..... if I were to guess who the Patriarch Judah might have reincarnated as.... (or should I say that the over- soul or higher dimensional hard drive of Judah was used to record the identity of a later person in scripture).... .I would guess the Danite Judge Samson.

This is partly due to both Judah and Samson getting into trouble with women in the town of Timnah.

Genesis 38:13

13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep.

14 And she put her widow’s garments off from her, and covered her with a veil, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife.

15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.

16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me?

17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it?

18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy asignet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him.

19 And she arose, and went away, and laid by her veil from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood.

20 And Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman’s hand: but he found her not.

21 Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place.

22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place.

23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her.

24 ¶ And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be aburnt.

25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the asignet, and bracelets, and staff.

26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more.

27 ¶ And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb.

28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first.

29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called aPharez.

30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called aZarah.
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1 And Samson went down to Timnath, and saw a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines.

2 And he came up, and told his father and his mother, and said, I have seen a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines: now therefore get her for me to wife.

3 Then his father and his mother said unto him, Is there never a woman among the daughters of thy brethren, or among all my people, that thou goest to take a awife of the buncircumcised Philistines? And Samson said unto his father, Get her for me; for she pleaseth me well.

4 But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the aLord, that he sought an occasion against the Philistines: for at that time the Philistines had bdominion over Israel.

5 ¶ Then went Samson down, and his father and his mother, to Timnath, and came to the vineyards of Timnath: and, behold, a young lion roared against him.

6 And the aSpirit of the Lord came mightily upon him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done.

7 And he went down, and talked with the woman; and she pleased Samson well.
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If I were to guess who Mr. Donald J. Trump might have been in a past life.....
my guess would be Judah and then Samson......

... and according to Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy we Irish are partly descended from the Tribe of Dan. Perhaps Ireland should grab Mr. Donald J. Trump first..... and then let Scotland grab him..... .and then London....... and then later the nation of Israel???????????

If I were to make a wild guess as to who Mr. Michael J. Lindell might have been in another time and place.... I would tend to suspect the Patriarch Dan!

https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/39.htm

28 And Judah and his brothers heard the words of the inhabitants of Gaash and their anger was greatly roused, and Judah was jealous of his God in this matter, and he called out and said, O Lord, help, send help to us and our brothers.

29 And he ran at a distance with all his might, with his drawn sword in his hand, and he sprang from the earth and by dint of his strength, mounted the wall, and his sword fell from his hand.

30 And Judah shouted upon the wall, and all the men that were upon the wall were terrified, and some of them fell from the wall into the city and died, and those who were yet upon the wall, when they saw Judah's strength, they were greatly afraid and fled for their lives into the city for safety.

31 And some were emboldened to fight with Judah upon the wall, and they came nigh to slay him when they saw there was no sword in Judah's hand, and they thought of casting him from the wall to his brothers, and twenty men of the city came up to assist them, and they surrounded Judah and they all shouted over him, and approached him with drawn swords, and they terrified Judah, and Judah cried out to his brothers from the wall.

32 And Jacob and his sons drew the bow from under the wall, and smote three of the men that were upon the top of the wall, and Judah continued to cry and he exclaimed, O Lord help us, O Lord deliver us, and he cried out with a loud voice upon the wall, and the cry was heard at a great distance.

33 And after this cry he again repeated to shout, and all the men who surrounded Judah on the top of the wall were terrified, and they each threw his sword from his hand at the sound of Judah's shouting and his tremor, and fled.

34 And Judah took the swords which had fallen from their hands, and Judah fought with them and slew twenty of their men upon the wall.

35 And about eighty men and women still ascended the wall from the city and they all surrounded Judah, and the Lord impressed the fear of Judah in their hearts, that they were unable to approach him.

36 And Jacob and all who were with him drew the bow from under the wall, and they slew ten men upon the wall, and they fell below the wall, before Jacob and his sons.

37 And the people upon the wall seeing that twenty of their men had fallen, they still ran toward Judah with drawn swords, but they could not approach him for they were greatly terrified at Judah's strength.

38 And one of their mighty men whose name was Arud approached to strike Judah upon the head with his sword, when Judah hastily put his shield to his head, and the sword hit the shield, and it was split in two.

39 And this mighty man after he had struck Judah ran for his life, at the fear of Judah, and his feet slipped upon the wall and he fell amongst the sons of Jacob who were below the wall, and the sons of Jacob smote him and slew him.

40 And Judah's head pained him from the blow of the powerful man, and Judah had nearly died from it.

41 And Judah cried out upon the wall owing to the pain produced by the blow, when Dan heard him, and his anger burned within him, and he also rose up and went at a distance and ran and sprang from the earth and mounted the wall with his wrath-excited strength.

42 And when Dan came upon the wall near unto Judah all the men upon the wall fled, who had stood against Judah, and they went up to the second wall, and they threw arrows and stones upon Dan and Judah from the second wall, and endeavored to drive them from the wall.

43 And the arrows and stones struck Dan and Judah, and they had nearly been killed upon the wall, and wherever Dan and Judah fled from the wall, they were attacked with arrows and stones from the second wall.

44 And Jacob and his sons were still at the entrance of the city below the first wall, and they were not able to draw their bow against the inhabitants of the city, as they could not be seen by them, being upon the second wall.

45 And Dan and Judah when they could no longer bear the stones and arrows that fell upon them from the second wall, they both sprang upon the second wall near the people of the city, and when the people of the city who were upon the second wall saw that Dan and Judah had come to them upon the second wall, they all cried out and descended below between the walls.

46 And Jacob and his sons heard the noise of the shouting from the people of the city, and they were still at the entrance of the city, and they were anxious about Dan and Judah who were not seen by them, they being upon the second wall.

47 And Naphtali went up with his wrath-excited might and sprang upon the first wall to see what caused the noise of shouting which they had heard in the city, and Issachar and Zebulun drew nigh to break the doors of the city, and they opened the gates of the city and came into the city.

48 And Naphtali leaped from the first wall to the second, and came to assist his brothers, and the inhabitants of Gaash who were upon the wall, seeing that Naphtali was the third who had come up to assist his brothers, they all fled and descended into the city, and Jacob and all his sons and all their young men came into the city to them.

49 And Judah and Dan and Naphtali descended from the wall into the city and pursued the inhabitants of the city, and Simeon and Levi were from without the city and knew not that the gate was opened, and they went up from there to the wall and came down to their brothers into the city.

50 And the inhabitants of the city had all descended into the city, and the sons of Jacob came to them in different directions, and the battle waged against them from the front and the rear, and the sons of Jacob smote them terribly, and slew about twenty thousand of them men and women, not one of them could stand up against the sons of Jacob.

51 And the blood flowed plentifully in the city, and it was like a brook of water, and the blood flowed like a brook to the outer part of the city, and reached the desert of Bethchorin.
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Since the Latter day Saints already have a campus in Jerusalem they are in a special position to act as ambassadors between Jews and Christians and Muslims.

http://cjccf.org/multiple-mortal-probations/

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Ezekiel 21:27
"I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him."

So basically as Mr. Yair Davidiy explains it......
....(if my memory serves me correctly)..... daughters of King Zedekiah of Judah.... in the time the prophet Jeremiah.....
arranged a marriage of one of them to the Zerahite King of Ireland.....
(a descendant of the slightly younger twin brother to Pharez the son of Judah and Tamar ).....
and the Throne of King David was transferred from Jerusalem to Ireland, (I think Tara)...and then on to
Scotland and then on to London.................

.... so now...... it is overturned one more time to Jerusalem.......
and Prophet Kim Clement identified Mr. Donald J. Trump as a "David!"

Did something extremely significant happen in the life of Mr. Donald J. Trump before November of 1996?????

Moonglow · Apr 22, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

This is actually a rather serious option because the history of WWII proves that a constitutional monarchy comes in really handy during a time of extreme crisis.

COVID 19 has certainly put the world economy into a pretty serious economic crisis.

Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy explains the logic for this possibility:

https://britam.org/messiah.html
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Yes they should, but according to their law he is an adulterer...Is that okay?

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Moonglow said: ↑

Yes they should, but according to their law he is an adulterer...Is that okay?
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That is an excellent question?????

One possible option might be for a bunch of Israelis to put together some sort of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim film production Kibbutz Ltd." and the legal loophole of his playing out the role in an "artistic" manner should handle that little difficulty?!

Moonglow · Apr 22, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

That is an excellent question?????

One possible option might be for a bunch of Israelis to put together some sort of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim film production Kibbutz Ltd." and the legal loophole of his playing out the role in an "artistic" manner should handle that little difficulty?!
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These guys are Orthodox curly bangs kinda Jew and they are pretty strict..I mean, they sell sex sheets in their catalogs of marriage counseling magazines.

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Moonglow said: ↑

These guys are Orthodox curly bangs kinda Jew and they are pretty strict..I mean, they sell sex sheets in their catalogs of marriage counseling magazines.
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Good point.......
my suggestion would be for a poll to be done with Rabbi Alon Anava, his wife and children.......
if Rabbi Alon Anava would sit on this throne during the interim......
in order to protect Mr. Trump and his family until all of the legalities and particulars can be figured out.........

My prediction is that more than eighty percent of Rabbi Alon Anava's family would be willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect the many who since 2015 has done such an impressive audition for the role of Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef or...... Moshiach ben Ephrayim, (Ephrayim was the youngest son of Joseph/ Yosef).

So... Rabbi Alon Anava as "Interim Monarch Moshiach ben Ephrayim".... could be a good opening gambit for all of this?!

Rabbi Alon Anava - His Life After Death experience - Amazing New lecture!

.... I've listened to probably hundreds of hours of lectures by Rabbi Alon Anava over these past few years and frankly I believe that he and his family would be unanimous in being willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect Mr. Donald J. Trump and his family.

Soon... a new proverb will be created..... "King David will pay for it!"

Capt Nice · Apr 22, 2021

Who gives a s***?

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Capt Nice said: ↑

Who gives a s***?
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Anybody who would like to see the USA and / or Israel operating with a budget in the "black" as opposed to a budget that is in the "red."

Moonglow · Apr 22, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

Good point.......
my suggestion would be for a poll to be done with Rabbi Alon Anava, his wife and children.......
if Rabbi Alon Anava would sit on this throne during the interim......
in order to protect Mr. Trump and his family until all of the legalities and particulars can be figured out.........

My prediction is that more than eighty percent of Rabbi Alon Anava's family would be willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect the many who since 2015 has done such an impressive audition for the role of Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef or...... Moshiach ben Ephrayim, (Ephrayim was the youngest son of Joseph/ Yosef).

So... Rabbi Alon Anava as "Interim Monarch Moshiach ben Ephrayim".... could be a good opening gambit for all of this?!

Rabbi Alon Anava - His Life After Death experience - Amazing New lecture!

.... I've listened to probably hundreds of hours of lectures by Rabbi Alon Anava over these past few years and frankly I believe that he and his family would be unanimous in being willing to risk their lives to try their best to protect Mr. Donald J. Trump and his family.

Soon... a new proverb will be created..... "King David will pay for it!"
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They will also need to ask him to drop his britches cause they don't take yer word for it.

DennisTate · Apr 22, 2021

Moonglow said: ↑

They will also need to ask him to drop his britches cause they don't take yer word for it.
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I am pretty sure that he can handle that........

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/2-sam/6?lang=eng

14 And David adanced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul’s daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.

17 ¶ And they brought in the aark of the Lord, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the Lord.

18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he ablessed the people in the name of the Lord of hosts.

19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and aa flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house.

20 ¶ Then David returned to abless his household. And bMichal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who cuncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the Lord, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord, over Israel: therefore will I play before the Lord.

22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.
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wgabrie · Apr 22, 2021

Dennis, I don't know what you did but this thread of yours has an unreal number of views: 27,459 so far, and it was just made today! You're a star!

But I had to vote no. The state of Israel is a democracy. I don't see or want them to throw away a representative government for a kingdom. Especially not one lead by Trump.

Tejas · Apr 22, 2021

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The evil perverted pretenders/usurpers who now maliciously occupy/rule God's ancient holy land are antichrist Edomites... NOT Israelites !!

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DennisTate · Apr 23, 2021

wgabrie said: ↑

Dennis, I don't know what you did but this thread of yours has an unreal number of views: 27,459 so far, and it was just made today! You're a star!

But I had to vote no. The state of Israel is a democracy. I don't see or want them to throw away a representative government for a kingdom. Especially not one lead by Trump.
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What I did was put the opening post on about ten President Trump support groups on Mewe where bots could not stop the discussion from going viral under these rather extreme circumstances at this unique time in history.

I am of the belief that moving a significant percentage of the USA film industry to parts of Israel can play an important part in saving the economy of both Israel and the USA. Here is an intriguing prediction from just over ten years ago that has off the scale "Artistic Value" that can be transformed into educational value, diplomatic value and yes....... ECONOMIC VALUE for both the USA as well as the nation of Israel!

https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-28-11_commander_in_chief.pdf
Mr. Mark Taylor :

4-28-11 Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to lsrael, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than lsrael). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.

The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that lhave started! Forthe enemy has stolen from America fordecades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say lsrael, lsrael, what about lsrael? For lsrael will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with lsrael, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between lsrael and America will be stronger than ever, and lsrael will flourish like never before.

The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and lsrael, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.

The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God." (Mr. Mark Taylor, March 28, 2011)
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https://sordrescue.com/

DennisTate · Apr 25, 2021

Back in 2014 the gifted Kim Clement gave the name "David" to President Donald J. Trump and described him fulfilling a role much like Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef.

PROPHECY! Trump? “My David I have set aside for this Nation!” Kim Clement

https://britam.org/messiah.html

Messiah son of Joseph ruling over the Lost Tribes of Israel indicates his living in another nation other than Israel.

(Yair Davidiy) :
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The Messiah son of Joseph will be the leader of the Lost Ten Tribes. He will be descended from Joseph. In a sense The Messiah son of Joseph may be understood to represent Joseph and the Lost Ten Tribes, as a collective body. By considering some of the deeds and actions of The Messiah son of Joseph we can gain further evidence as to who the descendants of Joseph are today. Some points concerning the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH that are to be found in the book “Kol HaTor” (“The Voice of the Turtledove” in Hebrew). This book is a collection of the sayings of a great and famous Rabbi (Eliyahu of Vilna) and his followers in the eighteenth century. The book deals with the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Rabbi Elyahu of Vilna is considered to have been one of the greatest Rabbis of all time. The ideas in this book “Kol HaTor” are all based on Biblical or related sources. Similar to Cyrus king of Persia “Kol HaTor” says [1.6.1] The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is similar to Cyrus the Persian Monarch who encouraged the Jews to return from the Babylonian Exile and rebuild the Temple. Cyrus, the King of Persia, in some respects may be considered a forerunner (or prototype) of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Verses associated with Cyrus (Isaiah 42) are actually to a degree applicable to the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH will be revealed little by little.

The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in some sources is referred to as the “Messiah son [descendant] of Ephraim.” The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is associated with the saving of lives and the rescue of Israelites and in this he is assisted by Judah and by the MESSIAH SON OF DAVID. By way of Comment: The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH, as we have seen, is connected with the ingathering of the exiles. America and Britain both in their own way in the past did helped the ingathering of the exiles of Judah to the Land of Israel. Our Prayers Are Needed “Kol HaTor” says [1.24] “With our deeds and prayers we shall come to the aid of MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Through our exertions with all our might of self-arousal [arousal from below as distinct from arousal from heaven] we will achieve the union of the two messiahs, the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH and the MESSIAH SON OF DAVID, ‘the stick of Joseph and the stick of Judah’ [mentioned by Ezekiel 37]. [The two sticks will join together just as Judah and Joseph will join together].

[In Ezekiel 37:16, Ezekiel was told to take one stick, FOR JUDAH. Ezekeil was then told to take ANOTHER STICK, FOR JOSEPH. Ezekiel was told in Ezekiel 37:17 to join the two sticks together. THEY SHALL BECOME ONE IN THINE HAND. The two sticks (representing Judah and Joseph) were to first become one in the hand of Ezekiel. In Ezekiel 37:19 God says that the two sticks SHALL BE ONE IN MINE HAND.] [Ezekiel says that] First the two sticks will become one in your hands and afterwards they will be one in my [God’s] hand.” [i.e. This means that: First Judah and Joseph should try to join together from below and afterwards God will help them from above]. On the same theme: “Kol HaTor” emphasizes The Two Sticks (representing Judah and Joseph) Must be Joined Together Through Our Initiative! [2.101] Ezekiel (37) speaks of the stick of Joseph [and Judah and the union of Judah with Joseph]. This concerns the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. The Redemption is dependent on the union of the two sticks, the stick of Joseph with the stick of Judah. These are the two Messiahs, the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH and the MESSIAH SON OF DAVID. [It says: “Join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in your hand” (Ezekiel 37;17)].

At first the union [of Judah with Joseph] comes about through arousal from below by way of nature [through our actions] as it says, “Join them one to another into one stick.” And afterwards [the re-union is confirmed] in a miraculous manner, [through the hand of God, as it says in Ezekiel “they shall become on in Your hand” meaning they shall become re-united in the hand of God! Comes From the North “Kol HaTor” says [2.11] “His glory is like the firstborn of his bull” (Deuteronomy 33;17). The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH comes from the north side and will be aroused by himself. i.e. The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH will come from somewhere in the north or at least to the north of the Land of Israel. The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH will Defeat Esau meaning the forces of Europe. “Kol HaTor” says [2.17] The guardian angel of Esau will be pulled down by the guardian angel of Joseph (This is also spoken about in the Biblical Book of Obadiah. We will discuss this subject and the Book of Obadiah in another talk). Expands Borders of Israel, Wars Against Amalek “Kol HaTor” says [2.36] “Enlarge the place of your tent and let them stretch forth the curtains of your habitations...” (Isaiah 54;2). The commandment to expand the borders [of Israel] is part of the task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. The MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH has the duty of waging war against Amalek and of expanding the borders of Israel and of protecting Israel from destruction. Comment: “Amalek” represents anti-Semitism and the attempt to exterminate the Jewish people. Britain and America in the 19th and early 20th century did often attempt to protect the Jews in Europe from Anti-Semitism. In the Second World War Britain and the USA defeated Nazi Germany and Japan. Nazi Germany had planned to exterminate the Jewish people and did murder one-third of the total Jewish population in the World at that time." (Yair Davidiy, Messiah son of Joseph)
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https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm

Jewish tradition speaks of two redeemers, each one called Mashiach. Both are involved in ushering in the Messianic era. They are Mashiach ben David and Mashiach ben Yossef.Obadiah 1:1: "the progeny of Esau shall be delivered only into the hands of the progeny of Joseph."Genesis 30:23): with prophetic vision she foresaw that an "anointed savior" will descend from Joseph and that he will remove the disgrace of Israel.8 In this context she called his name "Yossef, saying 'yossef Hashem - may G‑d add to me ben acher (lit., another son), i.e., ben acharono shel olam - one who will be at the end of the world's time,'9 from which it follows that 'meshu'ach milchamah - one anointed for battle' will descend from Joseph."10

Mashiach ben Yossef (Mashiach the descendant of Joseph) of the tribe of Ephraim (son of Joseph), is also referred to as Mashiach ben Ephrayim, Mashiach the descendant of Ephraim.Obadiah 1:1: "the progeny of Esau shall be delivered only into the hands of the progeny of Joseph."7

The essential task of Mashiach ben Yossef is to act as precursor to Mashiach ben David: he will prepare the world for the coming of the final redeemer. Different sources attribute to him different functions, some even charging him with tasks traditionally associated with Mashiach ben David (such as the ingathering of the exiles, the rebuilding of the Bet Hamikdash, and so forth).4

The principal and final function ascribed to Mashiach ben Yossef is of political and military nature. He shall wage war against the forces of evil that oppress Israel. More specifically, he will do battle against Edom, the descendants of Esau.Obadiah 1:1: "the progeny of Esau shall be delivered only into the hands of the progeny of Joseph."7
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The Amazing Sam's Ego · Apr 26, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

Back in 2014 the gifted Kim Clement gave the name "David" to President Donald J. Trump and described him fulfilling a role much like Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph / Yosef.

PROPHECY! Trump? “My David I have set aside for this Nation!” Kim Clement

https://britam.org/messiah.html

Messiah son of Joseph ruling over the Lost Tribes of Israel indicates his living in another nation other than Israel.

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm
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There's only one Savior-God. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

People interpret the Tanakh to believe that the Messiah is a mere man but the Bible never teaches that. https://www.compellingtruth.org/what-does-Messiah-mean.html

The Jews who were alive during Jesus' ministry anticipated that their Messiah would be a political leader who would redeem them from Roman rule and set up an earthly kingdom (Acts 1:6). After His resurrection, Jesus provided understanding to His disciples of what the Old Testament prophecies and His death and resurrection had really been about—forgiveness of sins (Luke 24:45–48). Jesus, the Messiah, was anointed for the primary purpose of delivering His people spiritually, offering them redemption from their sins (John 3:16; John 8:31–36). He accomplished this salvation through His death and resurrection (Matthew 26:28; John 12:32). Jesus the Messiah promised that He will return to earth again, and when that day comes He will deliver His people from their physical enemies and set up His kingdom on the earth (John 14:3; Matthew 24:42; Isaiah 9:1–7).
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Zechariah 12:10 mentions the second coming of the Messiah. https://www.compellingtruth.org/second-advent-Messiah.html

Micah 5:2 and Isaiah 7:14, among others, all prophesy a coming Savior. Some describe His death and His resurrection, as in Isaiah 53:8–12 and Daniel 9:26. Many see in Zechariah 12:10 a hint that the "pierced" Messiah will appear again.

When Jesus made statements about His return, His words paralleled Old Testament passages, such as in Matthew 24:31 and Mark 13:27 lining up with Isaiah 52:15 and Isaiah 59—62.

The Old Testament calls for the Messiah to come, be removed, and then return. We know Jesus was the first advent and we are awaiting His second coming.
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Zechariah 14:4 is a prophecy that mentions the second coming of the Messiah and it says that the Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Zechariah-14-4-second-coming.html

Zechariah 14:4 predicts, “On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the Mount moving north and half moving south.” “That day” is a reference to the Day of the Lord, and the One who stands on the mountain is the Lord Himself. So, yes, this passage predicts the second coming of Christ.
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The Messiah is God. Isaiah 53 doesn't mention Israel and it doesn't mention that the Messiah will be a mere man. The belief that the Messiah will not be God incarnated has to do with has to do with a misunderstanding of the Trinity. https://wyattgraham.com/hearing-the-trinitys-voice-in-the-psalms/

The Latin Father Tertullian, for example, reads the psalms, listening to the Father and Son speak to each other: “But almost all the Psalms which prophesy of the person of Christ, represent the Son as conversing with the Father—that is, represent Christ (as speaking) to God. Observe also the Spirit speaking of the Father and the Son, in the character of a third Person: ‘The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit Thou on my right hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool’” [Philip Schaff, ed., “Against Praxeas,” in Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3, 1885, 606 (§11)].

Reading the Psalms in a Person-Centred Way
Tertullian’s reading of the Psalms is called a person-centred reading. Psalm authors often quote other people when they write, or speak in the voice of someone else. Modern love songs do this all the time. A singer quotes his love interest or if it’s country music perhaps his former love interest, and yet the entire time it is one voice singing the song, playing the parts of both persons.

Of all the psalms, Psalm 110 probably provides the best example of a person-centred psalm, in which we hear the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit talk. Psalm 110:1 reads: “A Psalm by David: The LORD says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.’”

A number of observations illustrate the person-centred nature of the psalm. First, David is the author. David writes every word of this Psalm. Second, David says that the LORD says to my Lord. The first use of LORD is often in capitals in translations, meaning that it translates the Hebrew word Yahweh. Yahweh is God’s personal name. Dave is someone’s name. Yahweh is God’s name.

The second use of Lord, “my Lord,” translates the Hebrew word Adon. Adon means Lord, as in someone’s superior, and is not a personal name. David, then, quotes YHWH speaking to Adon, and he does so, according to Tertullian, in the person of the Holy Spirit.
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The Messiah is the Son of God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”
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Rabbis used to wonder if there would be two Messiahs because He was spoken of as both a Suffering Servant, coming to remove the barrier of sin from between people and God, and as a Conquering King, coming to deliver His people from worldly oppression. But they were reading about two visits of the same Messiah. One down, and one to go!

First the Messiah came to remove the barrier from between man and God, and He will return as a military and political leader. People confuse two visits of the same Messiah with Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben David. https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/zechariah-14/ .

Thus the LORD my God will come, and all the saints with You: Jesus will touch His feet to the Mount of Olives when He returns in glory with all the saints, the armies of heaven described in Revelation 19:14. i. This was the type of arrival the Jews in Jesus’ day hoped for. Indeed, when the Roman armies surrounded Jerusalem in A.D. 70 a mistaken assurance from prophecies like this made the Jews utterly confident that the Messiah would return from heaven and wipe out the Roman armies surrounding Jerusalem. They could not see that the Messiah must first be rejected and the nation brought to repentance as Zechariah mentioned in 11:12-13 and 12:10.
B. The Kingdom of the Messiah.
1. (6-11) The Messiah’s rule changes the earth.
It shall come to pass in that day
That there will be no light;
The lights will diminish.
It shall be one day
Which is known to the LORD;
Neither day nor night.
But at evening time it shall happen
That it will be light.
And in that day it shall be–
That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem,
Half of them toward the eastern sea
And half of them toward the western sea;
In both summer and winter it shall occur.
And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be
“The LORD is one,”
And His name one.

All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be raised up and inhabited in her place from Benjamin’s Gate to the place of the First Gate and the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananeel to the king’s winepresses.

The people shall dwell in it;
And no longer shall there be utter destruction,
But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

a. At evening time it shall happen that it will be light: Now Zechariah looked forward to the glory of Jerusalem in the Messiah’s kingdom. The lights we guide our lives by will diminish, but God will establish His own light.
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signalmankenneth · Apr 27, 2021

Yes, after all he is the chosen one?!!

DennisTate · Apr 28, 2021

We are living in a time period when the nation of Israel
is facing a time of rather extreme division but......

there are ways to bring Israel and the USA together unlike ever before.....
imagine a semi-reality science fiction film series...... combined with a reality
film series......and in a way all eight million Israelis may become stars in these films

..... and at least one but better yet TWO TEMPLES are like stages on which
these reality films and a number of these semi-reality science fiction film series are focused
on!

The gifted Robin Bullock stated recently that the youngest women in the I. D. F. will be
made stronger than any ten soldiers from any nation who wants to kill Israelis!

All that President Trump has to do to fit the ancient description of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" the Gentile Cyrus type is promise to try his best to arrange for the building of
at least one Jewish Temple........ or perhaps two if necessary..... . and because he managed to
shift the USA Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem the entire Jewish nation already know that
President Trump is a man of his word!

Could there be two Jerusalem Third Temples?

DennisTate said: ↑

Apparently.... there are two Arks of the Covenant!

There are two ways of calculating most of the annual High Holy Sabbaths of Judaism, I term them Calculated Rabbinic and Karaite. (The Karaite Jews go by the visible new moon as seen from Jerusalem).

I had never really thought much about the idea of there perhaps being two Jerusalem Third Temples until I read this exceptionally insightful reply in another forum:

All that I know is that the fate of humanity depends on the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 47............ so I personally believe that we Christians should generally support the Jewish people in their desire to built their Jerusalem Third Temple. It may be easier to build two of them....... than to build on the Temple Mount.... even though the Gihon Spring Theory would mean that there is all kinds of room for a Third Temple plus the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque all on the Temple Mount.
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In a September 1935, article in the National Geographic magazine, L. Roberts recorded his interviews with various priests in different parts of Ethiopia who consistently told the same story. They recounted that the Queen of Sheba had visited King Solomon and had had "a child", Menelik I. Solomon educated the lad in Jerusalem until he was nineteen years old. The boy then returned to Ethiopia with a large group of Jews, taking with him the true Ark of the Covenant.
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The Ethiopian official national epic known as the Glory of the Kings (Kebra-Nagasi) contains an amazing story which offers an explanation of what happened to the Ark of the Covenant. In addition, there are several Ethiopian murals which tell how the Ark and the Tablets of the Law were taken to Ethiopia for safekeeping by Prince Menelik I. ..... The Queen of Sheba, his mother, had died and the prince prepared to leave Jerusalem to return twenty-five hundred miles to his native country to become its king.

Prince Menelik bore an uncanny resemblance in beauty and regal bearing to his father. King Solomon wanted to give him a replica of the Ark to take with him to Ethiopia because the long distance would prevent him from ever again worshipping at the temple in Jerusalem.

However Prince Menelik was concerned with the growing apostasy of Israel and the fact that his father, Solomon was now allowing idols to be placed in the Temple to please his pagan wives. King Solomon gave the prince a going-away banquet and after the priests were filled with wine, Menelik and his loyal associates switched arks and left the replica in its place in the Holy of Holies.// (Grant Jeffrey, [page 115, Armageddon, Appointment with Destiny).
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DennisTate · Apr 28, 2021

The Amazing Sam's Ego said: ↑

There's only one Savior-God. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

People interpret the Tanakh to believe that the Messiah is a mere man but the Bible never teaches that. https://www.compellingtruth.org/what-does-Messiah-mean.html

Zechariah 12:10 mentions the second coming of the Messiah. https://www.compellingtruth.org/second-advent-Messiah.html

Zechariah 14:4 is a prophecy that mentions the second coming of the Messiah and it says that the Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Zechariah-14-4-second-coming.html

The Messiah is God. Isaiah 53 doesn't mention Israel and it doesn't mention that the Messiah will be a mere man. The belief that the Messiah will not be God incarnated has to do with has to do with a misunderstanding of the Trinity. https://wyattgraham.com/hearing-the-trinitys-voice-in-the-psalms/

The Messiah is the Son of God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html

Rabbis used to wonder if there would be two Messiahs because He was spoken of as both a Suffering Servant, coming to remove the barrier of sin from between people and God, and as a Conquering King, coming to deliver His people from worldly oppression. But they were reading about two visits of the same Messiah. One down, and one to go!

First the Messiah came to remove the barrier from between man and God, and He will return as a military and political leader. People confuse two visits of the same Messiah with Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben David. https://enduringword.com/bible-commentary/zechariah-14/ .
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Thank you for this well thought out post that does a good job of summarizing the view on all of this that the majority of Christian Theologians seem to have but.........

back in 2010 I ran into an article on a "Christian Political Cyrus" by a near death experiencer from Uganda that struck me as being brilliant and truly insightful. ..... but as you can see...... not at all politically correct!

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.

2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.

3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy
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The Amazing Sam's Ego · Apr 28, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

Thank you for this well thought out post that does a good job of summarizing the view on all of this that the majority of Christian Theologians seem to have but.........

back in 2010 I ran into an article on a "Christian Political Cyrus" by a near death experiencer from Uganda that struck me as being brilliant and truly insightful. ..... but as you can see...... not at all politically correct!
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I believe that the Old Testament says that the Messiah is the Son of God and Judaism follows what rabbinic tradition teaches about the Messiah instead of what the Old Testament says about who the Messiah would be. https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/messiah_sonofman.html

Sometime in the sixth century BC the prophet Daniel received visions concerning future events, and in one of those visions he saw a heavenly Being in the likeness of a man coming to rule forever and representing the saints of God who would also share in that dominion:

“As my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language worshiped him. His rule is eternal—it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.” Daniel 7:13-14

What makes this supernatural revelation so astonishing is that even though this entity whose appearance was that of a man, having a human form, is personally distinct from God (depicted here as the Ancient of Days) he is nonetheless a fully Divine Being.

Note the points of similarity between this Son of Man and Yahweh God. According to the Hebrew Scriptures Yahweh is worshiped and reigns over all creation forever,

“But in the end, the holy people of the Most High will be given the kingdom, and they will rule forever and ever… until the Ancient of Days—the Most High—came and judged in favor of his holy people. Then the time arrived for the holy people to take over the kingdom.… Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.” Daniel 7:18, 22, 27

And:

“Rejoice, O people of Zion! Shout in triumph, O people of Jerusalem! Look, your king is coming to you. He is righteous and victorious, yet he is humble, riding on a donkey—riding on a donkey’s colt. I will remove the battle chariots from Israel and the warhorses from Jerusalem. I will destroy all the weapons used in battle, and your king will bring peace to the nations. His realm will stretch from sea to sea and from the Euphrates River to the ends of the earth. Because of the covenant I made with you, sealed with blood, I will free your prisoners from death in a waterless dungeon… Yahweh will appear above his people; his arrows will fly like lightning! The Sovereign Yahweh will sound the ram’s horn and attack like a whirlwind from the southern desert. Yahweh of hosts will protect his people, and they will defeat their enemies by hurling great stones. They will shout in battle as though drunk with wine. They will be filled with blood like a bowl, drenched with blood like the corners of the altar. On that day Yahweh their God will rescue his people, just as a shepherd rescues his sheep. They will sparkle in his land.” Zechariah 9:9-11, 14-16
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Only God saves. The Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-Man.html

Son of Man is a title of deity. Ezekiel may have been a son of man, but Jesus is the Son of Man. As such, Jesus is the supreme example of all that God intended mankind to be, the embodiment of truth and grace (John 1:14). In Him “all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9). For this reason, the Son of Man was able to forgive sins (Matthew 9:6). The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). The Son of Man came to save lives (Luke 9:56; 19:10), rise from the dead (Mark 9:9), and execute judgment (John 6:27). At His trial before the high priest, Jesus said, “I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven” (Matthew 26:64). This statement immediately ended the trial, as the court accused the Lord of blasphemy and condemned Him to death (verses 65–66).

Son of Man is a fulfillment of prophecy. Jesus’ claim before the high priest to be the Son of Man was a reference to the prophecy of Daniel 7:13–14, “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” Daniel saw glory, worship, and an everlasting kingdom given to the Messiah—here called the “Son of Man”—and Jesus applied this prophecy to Himself. Jesus also spoke of His coming kingdom on other occasions (Matthew 13:41; 16:28). The author of Hebrews used a reference to the “son of man” in the Psalms to teach that Jesus, the true Son of Man, will be the ruler of all things (Hebrews 2:5–9; cf. Psalm 8:4–6). The Son of Man, in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy, will be the King.

Jesus was fully God (John 1:1), but He was also fully human (John 1:14). As the Son of God and the Son of Man, He is deserving of both titles.
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The Amazing Sam's Ego · Apr 28, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

We are living in a time period when the nation of Israel
is facing a time of rather extreme division but......

there are ways to bring Israel and the USA together unlike ever before.....
imagine a semi-reality science fiction film series...... combined with a reality
film series......and in a way all eight million Israelis may become stars in these films

..... and at least one but better yet TWO TEMPLES are like stages on which
these reality films and a number of these semi-reality science fiction film series are focused
on!

The gifted Robin Bullock stated recently that the youngest women in the I. D. F. will be
made stronger than any ten soldiers from any nation who wants to kill Israelis!

All that President Trump has to do to fit the ancient description of "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" the Gentile Cyrus type is promise to try his best to arrange for the building of
at least one Jewish Temple........ or perhaps two if necessary..... . and because he managed to
shift the USA Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem the entire Jewish nation already know that
President Trump is a man of his word!

Could there be two Jerusalem Third Temples?
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The temple will be rebuilt when the Messiah returns. https://beginningandend.com/all-israel-shall-be-saved-the-end-times-salvation-of-israel/

Ezekiel chapters 40-49 all focus on the construction and administration of the temple during the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ. After the Great Tribulation, the Antichrist and Armageddon, the temple will be rededicated to God and Jesus Christ will reign over earth for 1,000 years. During this time, the promises of Israel to dwell in the Promised Land forever will be fulfilled:

“For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.” – Isaiah 62:1-3.
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The Amazing Sam's Ego said: ↑

I believe that the Old Testament says that the Messiah is the Son of God and Judaism follows what rabbinic tradition teaches about the Messiah instead of what the Old Testament says about who the Messiah would be. https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/messiah_sonofman.html

Only God saves. The Messiah is God. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-Man.html
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If I were to choose an actor to play the role of the final Elijah in an actual
reality plus semi-reality science fiction film series set in Israel surrounding the events of the time
of the two witnesses..... I would choose Pastor Rick Joyner partly because of the astonishing message from

The Patriarch Adam that he was given in his book The Call...... (I am assuming that the final Elijah might well be one of
the two witnesses).

Rick Joyner, The Call..... "
Love Releases Life

Another man who looked almost exactly like Abel came and stood beside him.

“I am Adam,” he said. “I was given authority over the earth, but I gave it to the evil one by obeying evil. He now rules in my place and your place. The earth was given to man, but the evil one has taken it. The authority I lost was restored by the cross. Jesus Christ is ‘the last Adam,’ and He will soon take His authority and rule. He will rule through mankind because He gave the earth to mankind. Those who live in your times will prepare the earth for Him to rule.”

“Please tell me more,” I asked, a little surprised to see Adam, but wanting to hear everything he had to say. “How do we prepare for Him?”

“Love,” he said. “You must love one another. You must love the earth, and you must love life. My sin released the death that now flows as rivers upon the earth. Your love will release rivers of life. When evil reigns, death is stronger than life, and death prevails over life. When righteousness reigns, life prevails, and life is stronger than death. Soon the life of the Son of God will swallow up the death that was released through my disobedience. It is not just living that you must love, but life. Death is your enemy. You are called to be a messenger of life.

“When the Lord’s people begin to love, He will use them to release His judgments. His judgments are to be desired. The whole world is groaning and travailing as it waits for His judgments, and when they come, the world will learn righteousness. What He is about to do, He will do through His people, and His people will stand as Elijah in the last days. Their words will shut up the heavens or bring rain; they will prophesy earthquakes and famines, and they will come to pass; they will stop famines and earthquakes.

“When they release armies in the heavens, armies will march on the earth. When they hold back armies, there will be peace. They will decide where He shows mercy and where He shows His wrath. They will have this authority because they will love, and those who love will be one with Him. What you will see through that door is to help prepare you for what He is about to do through His people.

“I know authority. I also know the responsibility of authority. Because of the great authority that I was given, I am responsible for what has happened to the earth. Even so, the grace of God began to cover me, and God’s great redemption will soon swallow up my mistake. Peace will be taken from the earth, but you are called to help restore it. Peace prevails in heaven, and you are called to bring heaven to earth. Those who abide in His presence will know peace and will spread peace.

“The earth itself will shake and tremble. Times of trouble greater than have ever been known will begin to move across the earth like great waves of the sea. Even so, those who know Him will not be troubled. They will stand before the raging of the seas and say, ‘Peace, be still’ and the seas will be calm. Even the least of His little ones will be like a great fortress of peace that will stand through all that is coming. His glory will be revealed to His people first and then through them. Even the creation will recognize Him in His people and will obey them as it does Him.

“This is the authority that I had, and it will be given to mankind again. I used my authority to turn Paradise into a wilderness. The Lord will use His authority to turn the wilderness into Paradise again. This is the authority that He is giving to His people. I used mine wrongly and death came. When His authority is used in righteousness, it will release life. Be careful how you use authority. With authority comes responsibility. You, too, can use it wrongly, but you will not do this if you love. As all of heaven knows, ‘Love never fails.” (Rick Joyner, The Call)

http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tc-en.html
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https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/415231662
★★★ THE CALL ★★★ —BY RICK JOYNER— {NARRATED BY MORNINGSTAR PUBLICATIONS}

Here is the man who I would suggest as the second of the two witnesses... .because he also has a massive "Elijah" calling on his life and a section in his book The Gift of Honor entitled Boulder Flats.... helped to prepare him for that role.

The Amazing Sam's Ego · Apr 28, 2021

DennisTate said: ↑

If I were to choose an actor to play the role of the final Elijah in an actual
reality plus semi-reality science fiction film series set in Israel surrounding the events of the time
of the two witnesses..... I would choose Pastor Rick Joyner partly because of the astonishing message from

The Patriarch Adam that he was given in his book The Call...... (I am assuming that the final Elijah might well be one of
the two witnesses).

https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/415231662
★★★ THE CALL ★★★ —BY RICK JOYNER— {NARRATED BY MORNINGSTAR PUBLICATIONS}
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The time of the two witnesses is when Jesus will be the political figure Messiah that the Jewish people are expecting. The Old Testament doesn't say that the Messiah and Suffering Servant because it's a limited document that can't say everything about everything, but it gives a messianic profile. https://beginningandend.com/all-israel-shall-be-saved-the-end-times-salvation-of-israel/

“And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one. All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses. And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.” – Zechariah 14:8-11.
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DennisTate · Apr 28, 2021

The Amazing Sam's Ego said: ↑

The time of the two witnesses is when Jesus will be the political figure Messiah that the Jewish people are expecting. The Old Testament doesn't say that the Messiah and Suffering Servant because it's a limited document that can't say everything about everything, but it gives a messianic profile. https://beginningandend.com/all-israel-shall-be-saved-the-end-times-salvation-of-israel/
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True... but two witnesses are sent before Zechariah chapter fourteen can be fulfilled and there is a powerful statement by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that should inspire Christians to take Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight, (especially chapter forty seven), very, very, seriously!

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

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