Show me why killing a fetus is wrong.

Well my argument is not a "sanctity of human life" one, mine is a law and order argument. The law has already designated that the intentional killing of human beings is illegal and unacceptable in most cases, so what makes a fetus different than any other human being and ripe for the killing?

 

I answered it directly. The fact that you might not like the answer does not mean an answer was not given.

The thread title does not say "Show me why killing a fetus is wrong but dont use your own personal opinion".

 

What do all the lines of argument about whether or not a zygote is a human being matter? How many zygotes are aborted?

 

If that were the case or if you could make such a case you would be able to offer SOMETHING that shows that abortion is detrimental to order or public safety. After all that is what laws are for, to protect order and public safety and interests.
So, can you provide ANYTHING that shows abortions to be detrimental to safety and order?

You are answering your own question. Abortion is NOT one of those cases.

 

A lot more that fetuses just prior to birth.

 

I think you lost your place, try to follow along. This discussion has nothing to do with zygotes at all, it is about the difference in a fetus 3 hours before birth and a newborn, and the answer is there is a lot of difference, but it doesn't matter because abortions aren't performed 3 hours before birth either.

 

It was a comparison. Look up the word. You brought up that you thought something was basically irrelevant and I responded with what I thought was irrelevant. See how that works?

 

It was not, it was a stupid question. A comparison should have been relevant and serve to make a point. That idiocy does not even come close, but you seem to think a lot of it.

 

LMAO! Then why should I even bother talking to you anymore?

You just proved no matter what facts I bring, your feet are set in stone.

So, I guess I am done with ya.

By the way, this thread is the exact same as the other one you created. You just used different wording in the title....lol.

Why Killing A Fetus Is Fine
Show Me Why Killing A Fetus Is Wrong

Same meaning, different words.

 

Go back to sleep PMS, this post was for thinking people.

 

So you can not add anything intellectually relevant and you claim the ability to think?

 

Ah the Irony,

 

Dont know. If you dont want to show why killing a fetus is wrong, or the child before the first few months of birth for that matter, why are you here?

How so? Explain how changing the definition of fetus will change, or rather refute, my position. Go ahead.

Yeah, sure

Well no because now I am asking lifers for their own reasoning, rather than letting them simply pick and poke at mine.

I disagree. Regardless, you have yet to refute anything I have said on either.

 

But we arent discussing law here, we are discussing ethics. The law has already designated abortion is fine so even if you did bring it in it wouldn't help. Either way it doesnt matter because the law is TOTALLY irrelevant to this thread.
That being said, what is your ethical reason you can show as to why killing a fetus is wrong.

 

Because ethically intentionally killing a human being is wrong and a fetus is a human being. Again, ethics should be consistent as well.

 

Is that under ALL circumstances Whaler???

 

Well if after Genetic testing the fetus turns out to be a genetic defect (downs, gay, etc) then it's ok to kill it.

 

If somebody shoots somebody else in the head while they are sleeping, then why is that "wrong"?

If you say yes, this is wrong, then tell us why it's wrong.. This answer will be the same answer for why unnecessary abortions are wrong.

 

Who gets to decide if an abortion is unnecessary?

 

As I have stated ad nauseum I want homicide laws in our country to be consistent. So NO it is not under all circumstances AS I HAVE ADDRESSED MANY TIMES BEFORE!

 

The courts, just as they decide self defense in all other homicide cases!

 

How did yo envision that? In case of self defense the court rules if it gets to a court, if the killing was in fact self defense. Are you suggesting that now the courts rule before if it is OK to kill your assailant similarly as it would be in the case of a pregnant woman's well being threatened by her pregnancy?

 

Just use the same standards as the killing of anyone else.

 

Why and how can that be applied to abortion?

 

Easily, self defense of the mother is the only justifiable reason. Imminent threat of serious injury or death would be neccessary to justify the homicide of a child in utero.