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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    GMO acts kind of irrationally.Buy Fruit or vegetables that have been
    Organically enhanced and one day you wake up and have a health problem.
    GMO fruits and vegetables do have a very healthy and larger appearance.
    But then the practice of waxing fruits is the same.
    If you think by some grace of God our government is gonna make
    sure and look out for the safety of Americans health,you are Completely
    Naïve.It is up to every grown adult to be informed as to what really is.
    Just ask yourself.Ask older Farmers.Why Monsanto has mounted THE
    hugest campaign in Farming history to Demand every farmer Use ONLY their
    seed.Or else.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know how that could happen. Monsanto is a business that deals with farmers. Does this mean I trust them? But keep in mind how much good they have done.

    i used to find bugs in heads of lettuce. I would find half bug eaten fruit at stores. Not today.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On GMO and Monsanto

    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2017/05/11/real-farmers-think-monsanto-oppressor/

     
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    When I plant it is with heirloom seeds and even buying plants I look for heirloom plants. GMO may not harm but it doesn't hurt to be aware.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    122 in Arizona today. Now, thats HOT!!!

    :omfg:
     
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    daisydotell Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are getting plenty of rain, it has rained all day and looks like we are going to get rain all night.
     
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    I think you are mis informed. Not all corn is GMO and Monsanto forces no one to buy their products. I planted Hickory King corn...non GMO and open pollinated. It is an old variety bred for my area of the country. The stuff is about 16 ft. tall. But I also planted a GMO corn and it is only about 6 ft. tall but the yield is looking good. GM corn is a money saver for farmers. You can drill and no cultivation is needed. Just spray roundup and no pesticides are needed. So far it has saved a lot of labor. GM is also good for getting carbon back in the soil where it belongs. Plowing and disking ruins soils over time. No till improves soils over time. My problems with big ag. is the chemical use.
     
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    We are too. After the drought last year the rain is welcome.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Sweetie Smartie I have been really busy defending a bank against bank robbers but I think of you often and always my sweet Ft. Worth belle.

    :D
     
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    as long as they don't take anyone else with them, they are very dangerous and of the devil.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Rise and shine, barflies. Got us another Wednesday.

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    They do a job and if people stay out of their way and the snakes don't get where they aren't supposed to be all is well. We had two or three different harmless snakes living on the property.They never bothered us one was a red rat snake, and the other two were black snakes. The neighbor's dog killed one of the black snakes. He had lived in peace here for years. I guess the poor fellow felt safe. Our dogs never bothered him.They help keep down rats. When harvesting comes around the rats look for places to hide and usually, the snake is there waiting. DSCF0068.JPG
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Too early for snakes, Daise. Dont you have some biscuits?
     
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    I don't think some people worry about the residual left from chemicals and how it can affect the land. The land is something we need to protect and not pollute. If something can not mix safely with the land people should avoid it. I would be happy if everything went back to natural stuff, no plastic anything.
    I prefer heirloom seeds and don't buy hybrid seeds. Just my quirk, my mother and grandmother were seed savers. I always admired that they did that.That practice keeps things pure.
     
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    I haven't started breakfast yet, it is rainey again and I am going to fix sausage gravey and biscuits for breakfasrt.. Some kind of comfort food. Keep everyone smiling. Grits is a comfort food but the grits I have takes a long time to cook.
     
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    Tinkering with the virtual DNA of fruits and vegetables does have
    an impact.Yes,it enhances the looks and appeal of Fruits and vegetables.
    But inside the human body,how does our system process that GMO.
    According to most animal studies,it causes bad results.Cancer.
    Removing the gene from fish that live in cold water into a tomato in order
    so it can survive in colder weather has a price.
    NK 603 is a type of corn that has been genetically modified
    to be tolerant of a certain herbicide which would eliminate surrounding weeds
    but also be present in small quantities in the foods we eat.
    French scientists fed Rats NK 603 that contained levels of the herbicide.
    They found the rats developed massive tumors after 7 months and dies earlier
    than rats fed a regular diet.
    Right now it is voluntary for companies to Label a Product as GMO.
    The FDA { Food and Drug Adm. } and AMA { American medical Association }
    support " Voluntary " labelling.When they should DEMAND it.
    Just like Diabetes is rampant and the cure is available but Drug Companies
    prefer you go to a doctor and get some Prescription.
    The Cure is Holistic.In some cases drastically change the way one
    consumes certain foods.
     
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    The French cook them in garlic butter.
     
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    Speaking of breakfast,do you know that practically Every Cereal on the
    shelves of WAL*mart is bad for you.Loaded with too much sugar and
    corn-based.Wal*Mart does not sell healthy cereals.
    LIFE is about the only healthy cereal you'll find.
    Again ... Anything CORN is a huge gamble.
    ALL Corn grown in the U.S. is Monsanto seed.
    Monsanto spent years manipulating Farms and buying up large
    farms in order to dominate corn growing.Surely you've seen Family
    Farms that have been unlawfully foreclosed on.
     
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    My chickens just cringed over that photo. Squatch just woke me up and I just let them out for the day.
     
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    That above and the major reservations I have about the poisons they can dump in the soil that wont kill their product but will kill everything else. Plants then must take up water that was poisoned by those chemicals. Some plants may not metabolize those chemicals in a harmful way but Im more than sure some do. Perhaps even in small amounts. But stack all those small amounts up over time.

    Ive known people who have used organic fish emulsion. The tomatoes and cucumbers tasted like a hint of fish. Ever eat a cantaloupe or melon that didn't taste quite right? Plants take up water and nutrients from the soil and anything else in that soil that it can metabolize. Roundup is nothing Id ever use on anything much less anything growing near a food product.

    Im smiling thinking how my grandmother was so adamant no poisons in the yard. She would boil water to kill ants. I always felt bad for those ants.
     
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    I.also have a thing about chemicals.I don't want them around.Not under
    the kitchen sink or anywhere.Bleach is bad enough.But bleach is a very
    effective sanitizer.But on the hands it will burn and harm the skin.
    Who knows what all these high falutin' cleaners have in them.
    I finally bought the other day a room air freshner for a place in my
    basement.Every can had huge warning about Don't get on clothers or
    near the eyes.I used to get one that was basically ALL Orange
    liquid in a spray can.It Too had warnings about using around pets.
    I can no longer find that Orange air freshner { Pure Citrus }
     
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    I use a deep mulch in my garden. I covered the whole thing in pine straw starting last November. I have the best garden I have ever had. My only problem is space. I used my usual spacing for my plants and now I have a food jungle. I only watered once when I first put the seed in the ground just to get the seeds to germinate. The soil is making its own fertilizer. Earthworms are everywhere. I can't dig a hole to set out a plant without digging up worms. But I did plant some roundup ready sweet corn in a separate plot. The corn has the BT gene and is doing well. I spread horse manure about 6 inches deep and 2 ft wide in the rows. I planted the gm corn right in the manure. I also fertilized it with 36-0-0 fertilizer. Once at planting and once when the corn was about 8 inches high. I used roundup twice. Once at planting and once when the corn was about a foot high. My garden....except for the corn has had no inputs. IMG_20170609_161332373.jpg IMG_20170609_161342698.jpg Most of the rows have just about grown together. You can see where I had to extend the height of my green bean trellis.
     
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