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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Well zip it up and come on in. Do you garden, PP? Not me, but I sure admire folks who do. :flowerpot::flowerpot:
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I use a combination of white balsamic vinegar { Wal*mart carries }
    a dab of dish soap and a shot of rubbing alc. for stuff like cleaning
    a waxy comb or dousing a smelly toilet.
    I always keep a little half pint of 50/50 Cheap vodka and
    distilled water in the kitch.I put it on Brawny paper towels
    for an all purpose everything.It's a great cleaner and very safe.
    Use it to wipe grime off the face after a hot summer ride on the
    motorcycle.Douse smelly feet.Like I say the stuffs as safe as
    mother's milk.
     
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    Mr Sutherland got a late start on his garden this year, but it's looking nice. Pneumonia will do that to an 80 year old, but he wasn't down long.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yeah.Ladybuys are precious.I don't think I've ever came close
    to killing a ladybug.I'm like Minnesota fats { renown pool hustler }
    in that vein.He always kept around 10-20 cats and dogs and took
    in strays and found them good homes.
    he said he'd never even kill an insect.I'll kill roaches but never a cricket.
    I once had a cricket live in my living room all winter when I had an apt.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Do post pics. :)
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    We are looking at three to five inches of rain from this storm.
     
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    If you took some water, vodka or alcohol and added some type of essential oil that would work, no? If you wanted something that wasn't a spray you probably could soak something in that solution.
    I was reading up on ridding the cabin we built of that closed cabin smell. There was a suggestion that I am going to try. A bag of charcoal left open or in a tray to absorb the smell. I figured Im going to get a few of those aluminum turkey roasting pans and load them up with the charcoal. Same for the cellar here. I just didn't get that far. lol
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Goid morning bar people. Hope nobody is getting washed away or cooked alive!

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    My God your place is beautiful! Seriously beautiful!
    You put a whole lot into that garden and the rewards show. Do you put a lot of stuff up for the winter? Is that this season?

    The growing season here is relatively short. I planted in two different places this year. The family house with the organic garden and the house we live in now. At the family house I planted corn, tomato, peppers, potato, cucumbers, broccoli rabe, cilantro, basil, garlic, onions, lettuce and swiss chard. That garden is basically just starting out. The growing season here basically heats up in June to move the plants and is over by October.
    The soil at the house we are living in is horrendous. Ive tried for several years to amend the soil and it has improved but Im spoiled with the soil at my house. lol. So this year I decided that was it. I planted some tomato in the dead zone patch of soil and dug the holes double deep and double wide and put compost from my compost bin at home in the holes. They are doing great but time will tell. I also planted popping corn here and side dressed it with screened compost. Its about 8" tall at this point. I filled pots with compost and screened it all. Then I put the straight out older screened compost in big pots and planted tomato and peppers in those pots and put them on the deck. This deck heats up so hot you cant walk barefooted on it without running like hell to get off it. I have no concept of deck life. I grew up with a patio. Why anyone would build a stage and call it a deck, Ill never understand. But lemons to lemonade. Its a garden deck now. I have tomato, peppers, swiss chard, lettuce, basil, cilantro, zucchini and scallions growing in pots. Those tomato plants are probably 2' tall now with 2 sets of flowers and the peppers already have peppers on them with tons of flowers. We have a grapefruit tree that I started from seed about 30+ years ago and a lemon tree that I started the same time. The lemon tree was failing so I made a decision that was it. These two trees never gave fruit. Flowered some but no fruit. We have to bring them in in the fall and its a battle of why am I keeping them and where are we putting them in the house this year. The lemon was sentenced to death. We put it out. It snowed on it and went through some freezing weather in a big pot. It lived. lol Came back beautiful. So, we are going to transplant it for the fall to bring in. I also have some fig trees on the deck. Its not an Italian garden with out fig trees.
    When we were kids my great uncle took care of the garden. He would let us help and explain how to tend a garden and respect nature for how amazing it is. He would put a salt shaker under the patio for us if we picked tomatoes to eat if we got hungry playing. Take whatever you want aside from anything he marked to save or he hand pollinated. He taught me how to save seed proper. He passed and the garden was handed down to me to tend. I have for years since.
     
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    Gee I dunno about dat. I dated a spring chicken { chick } onced and she
    dint start laying until winter.
    Different era,I guess.
     
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    My battle with the raccoons.

    Im in the yard and see the corn stalks shaking. I see a raccoon. Game on.
    I grab the hose near by and start spraying the hell out of the area. One raccoon comes out, climbs on the patio roof and about 5 younger ones follow. Slow moving like they were thinking, so what you got a hose. You cant shoot us without the swat team swarming the neighborhood. The squirrels (rats with fluffy tails) probably filled them in on that. Anyway, now Im spraying the mom to move and she starts running. I start running with the hose in hand and totally forgot the hose at some point would stop me from running. It did. It stopped me dead in my tracks and the hose got half torn off from the house. Ahahahaha. The raccoon mom starts walking down the driveway with the younger ones following and there was one raccoon who laid on my patio roof watching them leave with one paw hanging over the edge of the patio looking all comfortable. The most adorable thing to see. That one leaves and I didn't plant corn there for a season. Since then no problems. Course all this happens right after our coonhound passed away. Like the damn raccoon mom knew the dog was gone.
     
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    I would never deny the benefits of more production at less financial cost. Especially if we are speaking about feeding people who may otherwise not be able to consume the product. Just be honest in an assessment of the products potential harm. Im grateful there is the option to purchase GMO grown products and to not purchase them or grow your own.

    Its amazing to me that people will use weed killers with fertilizers and let their kids or pets go play in that lawn. I wouldn't walk in that lawn much less have kids playing in it. If anyone needs an explanation why your dog died from throat cancer or anything like that play go fetch and bring it back after your lawn was sprayed. I see those yellow warning flags on lawns and cringe. Raise the mower deck and water or let it go dormant till fall. Your kids and pets will thank you.
     
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    What about Bran flakes? I eat this most mornings.
     
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    You have to always be aware of dangers that chemicals add to soil and can invade the aquafer. One of the larger lakes in our state was polluted from runoffs from commercial farms. The state stepped in and the lake is returning to normal. http://www.sjrwmd.com/lakeapopka/
    homemade cleaners are just as good if not better than some commercial cleaners. charcoal works really well so does baking soda for removing odors.
     
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    The thing I cant get past at this house is our tap water. Its a problem for me. I can smell the chlorine in it at times. I wont drink it. Ive tried several times but there is a huge difference with taste between the water at my house, the bottled water we buy and this tap water.
    The reservoirs the water is held in is beautiful. I mean pristine and goes on for miles. But by the time that water gets to the house its overly chlorinated to the point I can smell it.
    Ive read about the scam some bottle water is. Smartie a long time ago said it was a scam in many ways. That was actually what made me research it. Its true bottled water may not live up to the expectations of people but it doesn't smell like Im drinking pool water. lol
     
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    Thank you for the compliment. I love to garden and now I finally have plenty of time to devote to it. I do not garden in containers. I.like to grow plants in the ground and everything is mulched...everything. I also have figs...12 trees planted this spring. I started the figs from cuttings last winter and planted them out this spring. We have figs coming on already. I also have one olive tree. If I can find some more on sale I will pick a couple of them up. I want to see if olives will grow here. I would like to have a small olive orchard along with my small fig orchard. But I know nothing about Italian gardens. I guess I am a hillbilly gardener.
     
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    If you let the water sit in the sun for a couple of days the chlorine will evaporate out. I collect a lot of rainwater but that is basically for my small Koi ponds.
     
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    I love to garden too. Ive loved it since I was a kid. It takes me to a whole different place. Like being in the woods. A whole different place that's wicked comfortable for my soul. Its me. How many times my mom would look out the porch window when I was in the garden and say, why did you plant that there. You should have put it over there and how I was doing what I loved to do. To be honest, I still cant look up at those windows where my mom would look out without tears missing her, telling me I was doing it wrong. lol

    I can tell you love it. You have to have a love for it to have it look as nice and productive as yours does. I know what goes into it and seeing yours its very impressive.

    Ive never really grew vegetables in pots. It was always the garden. But this soil is almost like subsoil. Its on its way to being amended but its a process Im impatient for. I actually was thinking to make some raised beds and shovel soil from my place on the truck and fill the raised beds. Then I figured fill the pots this year and dump the soil out in one raised bed we make this fall and see how it works out. But all in all I have say Im surprised the plants are doing so well so far in those pots and the added bonus of the deck not being so decklike is great.


    You have figs, you have an Italian garden where I come from. lol

    Figs up here need winter protection or are grown it large pots to be put in for winter protection. We had a fig tree in the yard for years that we would fall bury. But man oh man what a job that was. People will wrap them in tarps packed with leaves or make small wooden structures to keep the snow and ice off them. Ive propagated figs to give away to friends. Ive air layered them. When you took the cuttings in the winter, what did you do to the cuttings?

    Ive never seen an olive tree. Now I want one. Ahahahaha. Ive heard the olive trees blooming in Italy are a beautiful site to see. Groves of silver leaves and flowers. I have no clue. Ive never been to Italy but will someday. I promised myself that. Id like to see where my grandparents came from. I also heard of fig trees growing huge in Italy. Big as Maples here. That is amazing to me.
     
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    Believe it or not my vegetable garden has been doing a lot better with less work. Mulch has become my garden slave. We had a very bad drought in 2016 and I knew my garden strategy had to change. So I filled my garden sprayer up with vinegar and sprayed the garden. Then I started hauling in pine straw. This was a lot of work but the pine straw was free. I gathered it from the woods with a pitchfork. I put it down about a foot deep all over the garden. I continued all winter and into spring. It did not rain for six months. In December we got some rain. December is when we start planting onions. I just pulled the mulch back and planted onion sets and put the mulch back....done, no weed problem. We plant potatoes in February. Cut the taters, pulled the mulch back, set the potatoes on the ground, covered with more mulch...done. March...broccoli... same as onions...done. Green peas...pulled mulch back...let soil warm up...plant seeds...done...mulch when plants grow some. Now, larger seeds... Pull mulch back for soil to warm up...chop mulch fine with lawnmower... Plant seeds...cover with soil...cover soil with fine mulch...done. When a weed comes up in the garden smother with mulch. Some weeds need to be pulled, but very few. I use a Florida weave for tomatoes...simple and easy. You can use just about anything organic for mulch. Just make sure it is plentiful and free.
     
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    Whats with the " We " bidness.?
     
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    We built a pond years ago. Dug out a section close to the patio and lined it with sand and a rubber liner. Then stacked rocks around it and made a small rock waterfall. We bought some feeder fish from the pet store to save them. They grew huge. In the winter we would keep a small air pump going so at least a small patch of water didn't freeze. The pond filter was inside the pond.
    We went for a walk one day and noticed a drying up area of a park that had small cat fish. Brought some home for the pond. Mistake. The catfish grew and at one point ate the feeder fish. One day Im feeling around in the pond to grab the filter so I can clean it. One of those catfish grabbed my pinky finger like some swamp monster and I freaked out not knowing what grabbed me. I lifted my hand out of the water and a catfish was stuck on it. The End! We went to the place we bought the pond liner and I checked out the outside filters. Came home and built one. If Im going catfishing, its not gonna be with my pinkies. That thing hit my hand hard! The neighbor near us put a bull frog in the pond. One day Im near the pond to see the bull frog with the head of a bird sticking out of its mouth. Bird was still moving its head. Amazing sight for sure. Finally one day my neighbor, who was this old time Italian guy said to me, what the hell are you doing with this pond? You eat those fish? No. Then you are wasting this space. After a while I saw it his way and we filled it in. The coonhound, our other dog and my moms cat, are buried there now and its a flower garden area.
     
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