So, I got my first unemployment voucher.

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just prior to September 10, 2001, Congress was conducting hearings regarding $2.3 trillion missing from Pentagon coffers. It was involved in audits at the Pentagon of that missing money. The next day, the bulk of the casualties at the Pentagon were from those congressional auditors.

    By about 2018, a Michigan State University audit of the Pentagon, done from publicly available documents, showed that about $23 trillion was missing. In 17 years it had grown from $2.3 to 10 times that amount. They don't talk about that on TV.

    $1.2 trillion is pocket change.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Including me? You know me? Obviously not.

    Secondly, you are right. The progressive left has attacked the wealthy in order to not only fund #1 (social programs), but also #2 (Social Services) so that the majority of people don't have to be responsible for themselves. The majority of Americans do get more benefits than they pay in, thanks mostly to class warfare waged by the ultra left.

    Me and my wife make in excess of $350K for the last several years (depending on business). We are not one of your "including you" statistics.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When farmers plow their fields under... that is "not" farming.
     
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    "Attacked the wealthy"?

    On what planet. Republicans just gave them a huge tax cut

    Me and my wife make in excess of $350K for the last several years

    Oh I get it now
     
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    And you can document this happening?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Al Gore invented the internet, someone else invented the search engine. You should try it as it can save asking questions.
    https://www.agprofessional.com/arti...nder-fields-fruit-vegetable-demand-disappears
    https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/apr/09/spring-crops-unpicked-in-fields-2020040/
    https://conservativefiringline.com/shutdown-effect-farmers-dumping-milk-plowing-fields-under/
    https://www.thepacker.com/article/some-growers-plow-under-fields-fruit-vegetable-demand-disappears
    https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/04/...ing-as-farmers-have-no-place-to-deliver-food/
     
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    Not really. You find plenty outside the big cities, where industrial/commercial real estate is affordable - whether retail or otherwise.
     
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    No one with any understanding of how the mind works, thinks that willingness to sacrifice is driven by fear. Denial mostly certainly is, though.
     
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    People are still eating. They just need to be innovative about how to move the product.

    Where I live they are doing direct to consumer sales and doing fine

    Grocery stores are still doing good business,..the difference is basically only restaurants and if they are smart they can overcome that
     
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    Indeed. Farm gate sales have increased dramatically here, too. It's a fantastic idea, especially for smaller scale producers.
     
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    ROFL. At least you're predictable. "Willingness to sacrifice" in your context is hilarious. LOLOL.

    It's hardly worth responding to you because you've got your mind made up that life as we know it is over, and we should all be hiding under the bed, but I do have to laugh at your denial of the fear which drives the hysteria which is the foundation of all of your and your fellow leftist brethren's beliefs regarding coronavirus.

    We're all gonna die and life as we know it is over, remember? ROFL.

    Quick, grab a mask and hide under the bed.

    :roll:

    Go ahead and have the last word now, that seems to be all that makes you happy :blahblah: The floor is yours!

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    The entire world is watching America and calling it denial. And denial is driven by either fear, or laziness. Take your pick, or take both.

    FTR, it's abundantly clear that you think retaining isolation is a sacrifice, since you're so unwilling to do it.
     
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    The only thing "abundantly clear" is your fear, your projection, your failure to understand the complexities regarding the politicization of COVID and the impact on the economy, and the fact that you don't know the meaning of "sacrifice".

    But please keep telling us how you think the world views the US :roflol:

    Bye Felicia. Go back to preaching to your own choir.
     
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    Safe Space response to ??????:

    I look forward to Democrats winning the next election with the commercial showing Granny about to be shoved off a cliff, then rewind back, replay showing "I'll do me" (graphic) and Republicans lining up to sneeze in her face to murder her.
     
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    I watch very little TV news, but I've seen quite a few stories about crops being plowed under.
     
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    https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-04-23/fraying-food-system-may-be-our-next-crisis/

    It has something to do with the supply chain for a restaurant being different than for home consumers. They get bulk, we don't buy, so if they are shut down it has nowhere to go.

    Plowing under has to do with commodity prices too probably, like when FDR tried to get grandpa to plow under, grandpa said "nuts."
     
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    Millions?

    What's going to change in the next 4 weeks?
     
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    A long time ago, I chose the safety of working for a large corporation over working for myself. Many times I've regretted that decision. Now is the first time in 35 years that I don't regret that decision.
     
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    If basic Govt unemployment is worth enough to live off of, moreso then the job you have/had, that sounds more like an argument against the crappy pay scale of your job then some sort of negative attack on the Govt...
     
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    I said progressives wage warfare.

    You "get" what? I'm probably that evil wealthy guy to you. I'm 41 and my wife 42 and we busted our assets for every penny.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do me a favor. Don't disappear off the forum in a puddle of unicorn tears after the election like most progressives did last time around.
     
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    Why don't you buy?
     
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    Things are packaged differently for restaurants, and it's not as easy as some people think to switch over to consumer packaging/labeling/portions. It's not just bulk items either. It's things like little individually wrapped pats of butter ---- nobody would want to deal with those at home, they'd buy a whole stick of butter. I also read something recently about how this has effected the citrus industry, because more people are buying citrus like oranges, because of the belief Vitamin C boosts immunity, but lemons are sitting rotting because so many of the lemons were purchased by restaurants/bars (think of how many drinks come with a lemon wedge.)

    If restaurants aren't buying this stuff, the options for the producer can be limited.
     
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    I've never worked in a restaurant, or know much about the supply chain, but it figures they don't buy hundreds of tiny packages of tater tots.

    I know people want to evolve, catch the virus for herd immunity, as if a virus won't evolve when given a large number of unprotected and eager hosts, but almost all of this shutdown could have been avoided, and the 90,000+ deaths if we adapted better and manufactured especially our own safety equipment (masks...) for national security reasons. If this thing had been a bioweapon, yeah, don't wear a mask works real well for the other side who makes all the masks.

    We simply can't afford to shutdown every time, and giving a virus willing hosts is like leaving your gas mask and atropine at home in a nerve gas attack.
     

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