So its 3 years in the trumps presidency but no state visit to Germany yet

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  1. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    Then why is Deuchebank loosing billions, closing so many branches and firing people like mad?
    Your main bank is going under, this is an ecconomy in deep trouble, a midgit not a giant.
     
  2. Sobo

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    The technocrats in Brüssel do as ordered from Berlin.
     
  3. Sobo

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    What is Deuche Bank?

    I can ask you why is Boeing closing branches, losing billions and fireing people Like mad? Same reason as DB. ****ed up.

    Germany has a gigantic export surplus, extremly Low unemployment and gargantuan Budget surplus.

    You run on a deficit.
     
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    You shouldn't make the mistake of reading comments made by one person and then assuming this one person represents a nation of 83 million. What one user here writes is their opinion, not an accurate representation of a whole country. Could one user and what they write here be representative of the US? Certainly not and it would be very foolish to think so.
     
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    Dont crawl into his ass. Do you eve understand what he means?

    He wants a submissive Germany and is upset, that Germany acts independend and for its own interests.
     
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    I merely stated a simple fact, nothing more. One person (no matter what nationality) can in no way be representative of a whole nation - fact.
    I'm not interested in these ideology driven pissing contests.
    Btw, since you wanna practise your English, better use "to bootlick sb." or "to suck up to sb."
     
  7. Tim15856

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    You should get out of your bubble more. I see plenty of Canadians posting on RW blogs that they wish they had a leader like Trump instead of that soy boy you have now.
     
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    And this I believe is why you support the EU, it's not to combine resources to compete with the US, it's to rule over the other EU members without having to fire a shot. Germany doesn't expect to compete with the US, not with their self destructive energy policies.
     
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    Which "self destructive energy policies do you mean?
     
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    The German "superpower" still lives under the protection of the United States with thousands of U.S. troops based there and has no nuclear arsenal of its own because we know every nation from France to Russia would go ape over the idea of a Germany even today possessing nuclear weapons.

    The German "superpower" doesn't even have overseas deployable military assets equal to France (much less Britain).

    Being able to lord it over Greece via banking rules hardly makes a nation a "superpower".
     
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    Probably like this forum--the trumpers here don't represent more than 20-25% of the population in the US. His other supporters are diehard Republicans who will support any moron as long as it's a Republican moron.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Germany is fully nuclear. We have the 2nd largest stockpile of Plutonium. In case of need, we could build the bomb in any power level needed. Thats called nuclear latency or japan option btw. To have evrything to build the bomb. Or as the UN says, one screw driver away from it.
     
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    You are right of course. I've got friends in Germany and also family, I never meant it to sound as if I attribute it to the German people as a whole.
    Still it makes me sad to hear even a single person here talk like this because i know the price the whole world payed last time.
     
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    Its called Deutsche Bank. I find it amusing what rubbish you write.

    Here for you

    https://mondediplo.com/2018/02/04germany

    Germany builds an industrial empire
    Even before the fall of the Berlin Wall, Germany used the European system to ‘nearshore’ industrial production to low-wage central European countries. Now it has a colonial hinterland.


    Your weak economy actually makes me laugh. Countries that run on a deficit should not exist at all and can be ruled from others.
     
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    Oh please...the price was considerable lower than the 30 years war in 17th century. At least for Germany.

    This WW II **** gets boring.
     
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    So I guess Berlin orders them to take trillions of German tax money and give them to Greece.
    Good, Spain, Italy and many more are coming next.
    As long as you work hard to feed your 'superpower' with money which is going to Greece, Spain, Italy and more, they are having the fun of their life.
    BTW, I've just been to Portugal, the 'workers' there are protesting, they want more money.
    I guess you 'superpowers' will have to work a little bit harder this year...
     
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    Well, you're correct about the limits of German power. But Germany is still possesses a very large economy, and real power comes from that.

    The US right before WWII wasn't exactly a military juggernaut, and yet we had the capability to become one due to our economic power.
     
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    And here is where your imagination doesnt grasp reality.

    You know how much tax money went to Greece? I tell you. 0. Nt a single cent. Germany gave guarantees. Since Greece is artifical hold alive with those guarantees, real money from investors flushs in. Money that goes into german banks who gave loans to Greece. Germany actually makes profit from this. In last year 48 billion in interest rates.

    The Greek debt crisis is a core interest for Germany. It holds the € rating lower. It creates an endless inflow of investment to Germany and is the reason why your Trump cries so much about "unfair practices".

    The system is so perverted, that Germany issues bonds with negative interest rates. You know hat that means? Investors pay Germany so it takes their money.

    The Buerocrats in Brussel would end this and say its bad. Its Germany that pushs it through. Again and again. Austerity with letting Greece zero chance to recover.

    If it would be for Brussel, this would end tomorrow.

    There is a really nice caricature showing this "German help"

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    In short for you. We give words, get real money and a nonstop inflow of investment.

    And work hard? I dont work hard. I have a 35h week and can afford luxury vacation in Australia with my girl. 30 days paid vacation per year - 9 state holidays + 5 day week.

    Meanwhile the Greeks starve and collapse.

    I never worked hard a single day in my entire life. Sometimes i´m at office and dont know what to do. Thats when i write here.
     
  20. Dayton3

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    I've seen the estimates about Germany, Japan, Australia, Taiwan and several other nations.

    More like about one year away from a useable nuclear weapon once the decision was made. At any rate, "one screw driver away" still means "no nuclear weapons available".
     
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    Actually not true.

    If economic power was where "real power" comes from Japan in the 1980s would've been a major power and the Soviet Union a third rate weakling. We both know that wasn't true.

    The U.S. right before World War Two while its Army and Army Air Force wasn't that large, had the most powerful navy in the world. So much so that the only chance the Japanese thought they had was a crazy first strike against Pearl Harbor.
     
  22. Nemesis

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    Absolutely true.

    Read a history book addressing the great historical powers. Do it now.

    BTW, the Japanese knew that they'd need to cripple our navy because if they weren't able to do that, our huge economy would give us an enormous advantage. Fact.
     
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    Obviously you've never heard the saying:

    "If you owe a thousand dollars and can't pay it back you have a problem".
    "If you owe a million dollars and can't pay it back, your bank has a problem".
     
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    I've taught American and World History (plus Economics and various other subjects) for ten years now genius. Plus presented papers to historical societies.
     
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    You're not doing your students any favors by ignoring the historical fact that a power military is preceded by a thriving economy. How else can a nation afford to be a military power?

    I suspect that you taught grade school. Of course, you wouldn't need to know the axiom that a strong economy is a prerequisite to military power. Me? I have a degree in history.

    From the great big dummies at Harvard:

    https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/has-economic-power-replaced-military-might

    Military power, which some call the ultimate form of power in world politics, requires a thriving economy. But whether economic or military resources produce more power in today’s world depends on the context. A carrot is more effective than a stick if you wish to lead a mule to water, but a gun may be more useful if your aim is to deprive an opponent of his mule. Many crucial issues, such as financial stability or climate change, simply are not amenable to military force.
     

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