So its 3 years in the trumps presidency but no state visit to Germany yet

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually.....the thought never entered my mind. You may go now.
     
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    Is this a joke? About 50 German soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan. 50 times that were from the US. The US is a couple of times larger than Germany. Not 50. This number represents a photo op for Germany, not a commitment and contribution worth talking about. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262894/western-coalition-soldiers-killed-in-afghanistan/
     
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  3. Sobo

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    Where would you want Germany "cooperate"?

    Do you mean by buying 30% more expensive american gas?
     
  4. Sobo

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    Ok, so you laugh about german soldiers who have fallen while fighting a war against your enemy. We get it.
     
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    Alliances do not 'break up' for lack of a state visit. There are usually geo-political reasons that go far beyond what any state visit can overcome. There is no reason to go. There are other methods of communications in the modern world that would suffice.
     
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  6. Sobo

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    Then why visit France or UK or even shitholes like Poland?
     
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    You don't have to visit a country in order to cooperate, nor do you have to visit a country just to show you care. Relations between nations are relative, and the US likes the UK a whole lot more than they do Germany. You can cooperate perfectly fine through diplomats, and we have the internet of which things can be done instantly if need be.

    To a lot of people, Germany is just another European country with a Pro-EU leader, whereas the UK have a clear presence on the global stage. Not just through their diplomacy, but also their standing army and navy, of which is one of the best in the world.

    Sorry to be the bearer of non-issue news, but there you have it. Germany just isn't important to a lot of nations across the world.
     
  8. Sobo

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    How can we become important in your eyes? I mean compared to an economic midget like the UK
     
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    Germans in general and the OP in particular seem to think Germany is the center of the universe.
     
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    Poland has dumped Gazpro I hear.
     
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    you don't need trump there, Angela is doing a fine job bringing other men there
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    Thank you. I thought I might have to spell it out more blatantly. EDIT: This number represents soldiers that did not die to defend the modern world. They died to give you a talking point. You are welcome.
     
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    Merkel locked down migration by 97%, trump achieved nothing. So while Germany has one of lowest migration numbers in last 20 years, US is flodded with illegals each day. Tenthousands each month.
     
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    Thank your for this open words. Many in Germany dont realize that USA is more an enemy than friend and its good you say that.
     
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    Hmm, lets see.

    a) Stop bending over to Muslims. A lot of the "migrants" are foreign invaders and need kicking out, head first, and ASAP
    b) Cut the "hate speech" crap. Everyone are to be on equal footing in this regard. Yes, that means people's "Precioussssss" Islam will be criticized and mocked all the same
    c) Encircle free speech into law
    d) Stop telling other countries on how they should operate. Angela Merkel and Macron are notorious for showing how good they are for only their own countrymen to show them their middle finger instead(Hint: Ratings across various pools and not to mention elections show a trend of them losing support HARD)
    e) Work on diplomacy
    f) Get over the fact that Europe won't ever be united under one flag. Hitler tried and failed in this regard
    g) Stop arresting people for being critical of immigration
    h) Be consistent in the enforcement of the law. Doesn't matter who or what someone is. Protect your own countrymen first and foremost
    i) Stop being morality police. This is a huge issue Germany have had for decades and still have to this day
    j) Stop catering to fringe extremists like ANTIFA and other trash

    I could go on and on and on without mentioning economics AT ALL, Sobo. Your way of thinking is too narrow.
     
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    I be been to Germany, I lived there for a couple of years. That said, I wouldn’t go back if you paid me.

    If Merkel and trump need to speak to each other, easy enough to pick up the phone. Seeing Germany just isn’t worth the jet fuel to get there.
     
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    a) Since 2015 we have a lock down on migration, mass deportations and actually dropped migration by 97%. Mosques get banned, imams kicked out. -> solved
    b) Islam in Germany gets mocked nonstop. And rightfully so. What i would end is ban of Holocaust bla bla. If people think the Holocaust was a hoax, so be it. Free speech.
    c) free speech is in our law
    d) No, we need to dictate others how to act. We wont accept Greece being the lazy ****s they are. They either follow our orders or get crushed.
    e) What is wrong on our diplomacy? So far our ambassador has not written that your president is an absolute idiot. The one from the UK did.
    f) Europe needs to speak in one voice to the world. Mostly in trade things. Our market power is so big, we obviously can bring USA and China to their knees. n that regard i support the Eu as a trade union.
    g) We dont arrest people critical for immigration. Im in police. I hate migrants. So do most of my colleagues. A large part of our politicians. Want see a speech of a parlamentarian calling muslims inbred headscarf bitches and knife wielding idiots?
    h) makes no sense
    i) We are better than all others, simple fact. I travel alot, o country i have ever visited was better than my own. And i will tell other that.
    j) makes no sense. We beat Antifa up at nearly evry event here.

    What i see as more important are other factors. We have gigantic budget surplus. We should build a much bigger navy and even carrier groups. To defend our sea ways actively. We should enforce our interests in a much more robust way. I see no reason to debate with shitholes like Greece or Turkey. I would bomb the **** out of Ankara and simply force them to do what we say.
     
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    I can say same about USA. Our partner city is Gastonia. Went there with school for 2 weeks. A shithole. Broken down infrastructure. people live in wood houses and bad hygienic standards.

    Absolute no nightlife of fun activities to do. No culture. And fat ugly people galore. Never before in my life i saw such fat people, rolling in electric "wheelchairs" on the streets. After few days we just mocked the locals and that was our main entertainment there.

    Also in class...fat girls with leggins so narrow, it looked like body painting. We had fun names for all of them. One was called troll doll, because her ridicolous hairstyle.
     
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    But he's not afraid of being attacked and loves to fight back, so your idea that Trump is "afraid" to visit Germany because he's hated there doesn't hold much water. He's hated far more in Washington DC and he lives there.
     
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    Leftist-minded Germans need to cease BELIEVING their own propaganda. With or without Germany, the United States will be fine.
     
  21. Sobo

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    Im far right actually but ok.

    And no, once you lose Germany as ally, you are basicly kicked out of Europe. France is even more anti american than we are. It would be te final break of your influence in the world. Would push you back in the position you had before 1914. Which would be best for all involved. You included.
     
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    You may be far Right by German standards, But by U.S.A. standards your average postings read hard Left. As far as Europe goes, the E.U. needs the United States far, far more than the United States needs the European Union. Try sucking up to Russia or China and depend on THEM to keep Europe free. Good luck with that.
     
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    a) Lockdown in migration? Lol.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-immigration-idUSKBN1AH3EP
    Lockdown my butt.

    b) Good. We agree on free speech

    c) Nope. Free speech doesn't really exist in Germany
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ost-promise-zero-tolerance-on-offence-online/
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...09392edc612_story.html?utm_term=.f26e2928c386

    d) That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Germany don't run the EU nor do they run other countries. This is why I mentioned this to begin with. You're sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

    e) Your diplomacy is kinda crap, to be honest with you. Look at point d) to see your own issues on this front. Also, I am neither American nor English.

    f) Europe is a continent, not a country. Too many cultural, economical and historical differences to make it a reality. The EU needs to die. We can do trade without ideological zealots telling us what we can and can't do.

    g) See my reply to c)

    h) Feel free to refer, again, to c). I have plenty more examples I can pull if needed

    i) Wrong. You're no better and no worse than others. Trump haven't bothered to visit because Germany just isn't important on the world stage.

    j) https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ifa-demonstrations-protestors-Welcome-to-Hell
    Hmm, you're right. Seems the police in Germany is far less cucked than in the UK, France and Sweden.
     
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    What is far left in my opinion, that i want use drones to seek and destroy migrant boats in mediterranean? What is far left in my support of concentration camps in northern african countries?

    Russia? Has a weaker economy than the german state of Hessen alone. Its a midget. We are not scared about Russia. Same counts for China. We exist since thousands of years. We need nobody to keep us free.

    That said, i think for your people it would be good too be reduced to the influence you had in 1914. You waste too much in globalist ****.
     
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    A) Article from 2017? Really?

    In Eastern Germany migrat numbers even drop,. because people here hunt non germans out of towns.

    Here a reality from 2019:

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    https://www.dw.com/en/german-cabinet-agrees-tougher-rules-for-deporting-migrants/a-48379715-0

    https://www.dw.com/en/german-authorities-rejected-almost-all-2019-church-asylum-cases/a-49111674-0

    We denie almost all asylum cases and make cinditions for migrants so ****, they even run back where tehy came from

    b) ok

    c) Your article is about UK

    d) Yes we run the EU. Look how we order others and tehy follow. Like Greece for example. One thing though, its the natural order of things in my point of view. I see all non germans more like cattle whith the purpose to eitehr do as we say or get crushed. I have no respect for non germans and when i see them suffer its more or less amusing for me. But thats a personal thing.
     

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