So what is the deal with the Right and Tulsi Gabbard?

I agree with her foreign policy.

She is articulate, intelligent, and independent.

She is a war veteran and a Major in the Hawaii NG.

She is running on the issues, not her gender or ethnicity.

She believes in the unity of all Americans, Democrats and Republicans, a message that is sorely lacking from all the other candidates.

So there ya go, from a Trump supporter.

 

Then please elaborate.

What do you think is her foreign policy? And how does it differ from Trump's?

 

I am a fiscal conservative (old style - prior to the religious right taking over) - firm believer in the principles of Republicanism - including those the the bulk of the party has forgotten.

Oh - and I am a scientist so I can handle basic mathematical calculations like the one I am about to present.

3.5 Trillion was the Total US healthcare spend in 2017 - for comparison - Total Fed revenue for the year was 3.6 Trillion.

Other first world nations do more for half the money. Provide Universal Healthcare to all - for 1/2.

Suppose you wake up in the morning and - boom - we have the same system as Sweden or one of the better systems in Europe.
Will life end - will people be dying in the streets because of a poor healthcare system ? Obviously not - studies have shown we are middle of the pack in terms of quality of care.

but we pay double. If we were to swap one of these systems over directly - there is 1.75 Trillion on the Table - per year.

Doing this we could cut Gov't payment in half and the individual payment in half. What is not to like ?

 

Tulsi is OK to look at
Otherwise. she's just another liberal, virtually indistinguishable from the rest.

 

Trump doesn't need the help.

 

Propaganda has nothing to do with it reality does.

 

The reason is sanity. She's the only dem candidate that seems to be able to think for herself, use logic and reason.

I would not vote for any democrat at this time, because the entire party leadership is dysfunctional. Even the best leadership would have little luck turning the herd before it runs off a cliff.

 

She is a free thinker with a healthy attitude about removing some teeth from government. She is neither an elitist nor a pawn of her party.

None of that matters to me. She is the only candidate that I think might reduce government or at least try to. If she were the nominee I would vote for her and I have never voted for a democrat. Fortunately for the conservative side of things, she won't be the nominee. Sanders, if he wins, will be steamrolled by Trump.

 

Nor will she. Reps may like her the best of the bunch but with all of her issues already being taken by one candidate or the other on the Dem side and Trump polling above 90% on the Republican side there simply isn't a lot of room left.

 

She is very hot looking on a surfboard.

 

Tulsi makes more sensible statements in 5 minutes than pretty much any other candidate makes in an hour.

She takes her oath of office more seriously than most of her "esteemed colleagues".

She is more truthful and principled than those colleagues, and that's why the mainstream media doesn't talk about her.

 

Except for the obvious. Most other major nations do not keep healthcare statistics the same way the United States does.

Infant mortality for example.

 

You created this OP so you should know her position on the US military involvement overseas. She and Trump seem to have somewhat the same leanings.

 

You stated a falsehood - falsehood is not reality. It is propaganda that states a falsehood as reality.

 

It's the truth whether you wish it to believe it or not is entirely irrelevant.

Governments are good largely at two things, destroying things and jailing people. Beyond that there is no better way to wreck something than to put the government in charge.

 

Likely because a lot of the right is against our current foreign policy. She also doesn’t talk down to conservatives the way other Democrats do.

 

You voting for her?

Nope

 

It's commie socialism and America dont want no socialism!

Anyways get yourself an upper middle class job and you will have good healthcare ! Stop being slovenly.

Just because everyone cant be upper middle class isnt relevant.

 

Sanders is just stronger and tulsi a new comer. But she represents where the dem party needs to move. .

She will run again for president. Resolute with integrity Sorely needed in that party.

 

One more time - You stated a falsehood "More government won't fix it" -

At the very least - you should be questioning if this claim is necessarily true - true in all instances. More Gov't can fix many things.

In this case we are talking Healthcare - a system that is broken so bad - that we pay double - and get less.

Mathematically speaking - we spent 3.5 Trillion in 2017 - when what we got was worth 1.75 Trillion. The solution - the "fix" that would save us 1.75 Trillion - would be to adopt one of these other systems straight across the board -

Yet you want to reject the fix - by claiming "More Gov't is not the Fix" - when clearly more Gov't is at least one fix. A 1.75 Trillion dollar fix.

If you have a better idea - that will save more - I am all ears.

 

We pay double, we actually get more of a wide variety of things such as cancer survival rates. And we pay double almost entirely because of government.

 

Correct - Just a whole lot less

Correct - because they have been brainwashed to believe that they are not currently living in commie socialism

But what is relevant - is that having good healthcare under a more socialist system costs only half as much as what you are currently paying.

 

Lucifer, I agree with these posters above.

I think her foreign policy is similar to Trump's. Trump has proven that he is not interested in starting new wars. He has made peace overtures to North Korea and the taliban. After the Iranians (or their proxies) attacked Saudi Arabia's oil facilities with cruise missiles, he told the Saudis that if they wanted retaliation against Iran, they would have to be the ones to retaliate, not the U.S. After Iranian General Soleimani orchestrated attacks against our troops in Iraq and our civilians in our embassy, Trump killed him. The Iranians retaliated with a missile attack that wounded, but did not kill, some of our troops. Trump could have kept it going at that point and counter-retaliated, but he didn't.

He is inclined to stay out of the Syrian civil war between the Assad government and Syrian rebels. He is also inclined to remove our remaining troops in Syria, but he has not done it.

So there are similarities between Gabbard and Trump.

Where they are different ... I think Tulsi would immediately withdraw all U.S. troops from Syria. I would agree with that move.

She might very well withdraw our troops from Iraq as well. I would agree with that move if she did it.

Both Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump (and anyone with a brain) identify Al Qaeda as our enemy. This makes Afghanistan complicated and difficult because the taliban is still aligned with Al Qaeda. I know she wants out of Afghanistan, and so does Trump. (Again, more similarities).

Tulsi Gabbard does not want the U.S. to be the world's policeman, especially in the middle east, although I have no doubt that she would defend our nation as needed. The same is true of Trump. And both of them talk about the huge financial cost of these wars, another similarity between them.

I have strong disagreements with Tulsi Gabbard on certain domestic policies, and if the race were between her and Trump, I would vote for Trump. But if Trump were to lose to a Democrat, I would prefer it be to her for all the reasons I just wrote about and for the reasons stated by the other posters I quoted.

Seth

 

What ever dude - so there is a difference in infant mortality statistic - what does Europe not include abortions ? -- it is irrelevant in the context of the overall discussion - and it is not like such differences are not taken into consideration in studies.

Then of course - there is common sense and being educated - folks are not dying in the streets due to poor healthcare in Europe - in any greater numbers than in the US. It is roughly equivalent within any objective measure.