Someone quietly bombs Syria now

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by Thedimon, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    Folkloric.

    Amazing that a guy of your intelligence resorts to such ignorance of the facts. A stupid guy can be excused because of ignorance, but in your case it sounds like ill will.

    If at least you dropped the Jew bait...
     
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    As a whole, Europe will try to balance the heat and the cold. I see their alliance in Trump's latest Syrian strike more as restrainers than enablers. They gave a little token to Trump and will give a little token to Russia/Iran to balance things out and keep the status quo, at least until the USA changes the President.

    I would next time Israel hits anything in Syria, Iran or Lebanon. The occident has tested Russia's air defenses, let Russia test Israel's for shows.

    He he he.
     
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    ugh... the invitation rubbish.... not again.... please can you people stop torturing me with stupid invitation arguments, we're not talking about a birthday party fgs.

    The issue I have is the "annihilation" part, Iran is just a little over the top where that is concerned.
     
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    I meant whether the EU would agree to the extra sanctions Trump is demanding on which he will not pull out. Originally they said No but as so often happens the next moment they are saying different things. Seems France, Britain and Germany do want this. They are also suggesting possibly instead they will make sanctions in respect of Iran and Syria. However in order to make the change would require all 28 of the EU countries to agree. So far they need to get another 25 but that does not mean they will not get it.

    Trade with Iran is very good for the EU so really they would I think be much more supportive if it were not that their attitude towards Israel is a bit similar - that is they will give strong disapproval for instance to Trump and Jerusalem or to settlement building or reneging on two states but the next day be telling Israel how much they love her. What I am saying is that the EU's word at the moment does not count for much.

    Yes, but possibly it would be better just not to let anything be hit -for Russia to provide them with the ability of proper air defence. I have been reading for some time that the intent is to draw Iran into a war and then destroy her and Russia has apparently told Israel if she goes to war with Iran, Russia will not be involved. Israel would of course as she always does respond to anything with disproportionate force.
     
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    Torturing you? Interesting tought. Is "banana" okay as a code word? 8)

    If you value the "legitimate" part, then you'll understand the being invited makes all the difference, otherwise it's an invasion. Do you think NK, for exemple, is pleased with the US presence in SK, or that Russia is satisfied with all the US military bases in neighboring countries? That's how the world works and I don't see why we should make an exception for Israel. Israel is a military nation, poised on de-stabilizing the ME for the sake of ethnoreligious utopia. If there is but one country who deserve such precautions... it is the USA of course but Israel isn't far behind.

    As for "annihilation", it is a bit hysteric, isn't it? What if the Iranians simply pack the conquered Israeli Jews into ever-shrinking, appoverished, paranoidely blockaded ghettoes for decades instead, you know, like civilised people do? It's just fair game, isn't it?

    Actually it would be more karmic than anything else.
     
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    Heh. The version of that I heard earlier was cancer research. :lol:
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard something to heal snake venom. In other words a health research organisation. I think I heard that as well.
     
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    Neah... ethnic cleansing is still ethnic cleansing. There is no justification for the fact that Jews thieved the property of 98% of the Arab population of Israel.
     
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    what about all the property stolen from Jews by the Muslims after 1948?

    why do you think its ok for Muslims to steal?
     
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    Didn't happen. We've been through this before with your example of Eygpt.
    Egypt only kicked out 500 Jews out of 10.000's because of direct links to Israel or other abusive colonial powers. It had nothing to do with them being Jews, anybody with links to them countries were kicked out. Jews were just a fraction of it.
     
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    Iran controls Syria, Assad is nothing. Your legitimate invitation rubbish is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned... there's no such thing as getting invited for a war, that's sick... invited to come and kill people, you people need therapy.

    Well if you think annihilation is hysterical talk to Iran about it.

    what happened to Israel have no reason to attack Iran, this is pretty much a declaration for war and only confirms what I posted to begin with.
     
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    They weren't invited to kill people, Scarlet... they were invited to help defend the host country from Islamist chaos. Israel is a second, distant concern for Syria, until order is re-established in the country, a task in which Iran helps and Israel hinders.

    Israel ought to cool down or they'll eventually get what they so richly deserve. They've got a big tab in the karmic departement.
     
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    don't be naive, it's the same thing, somebody dies. I think Russia's PR should find another word than "invited" I've always cringed when it was used.

    I disagree on Israel, but obviously you are on Iran's side, I don't want to see millions of people slaughtered in Israel and there's no room for meeting in the middle.
     
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    Russia's presence in Syria is on request from the Syrian Government
    Russia is in Syria by request of the Syrian Government
    The Syrian Government made an appeal for assistance to the Russian Government
    The Syrian Government petitioned the Russian Government for assistance

    not

    "invitation" which sounds more like Assad sent a gorilla-a-gram

     
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    :lol: Okay then, we might have a deal.

    Please pardon the occasional misuse of the english language from my part.
     
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    I don't mean to be a grammar nazi, it' just that Syria is such an enormous humanitarian disaster it calls for the more formal and respectful form of the word "invitation". The word invitation is generally associated with celebration.
     
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    I'll try and remember that, milady.
     
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    Don't project the failed regimes you support on us please and I never asked for pity or support, you call for war and then beg for mercy for 70 years.
     
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    lol the Palestinians are about 6 Million ppl and I wouldn't take their case as a successful example of controlling ppl, you want to add about 100 Million ppl to that, that's insane and you cant come up with a reasonable scenario save the destruction of the world - to acheive this, now before we dive deeper into your brain, are you suggesting the "Jews" are planning the destruction of say...Europe, Russia, ME - to get this control you talk about? like a dark power that feeds on ash :)
     
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    Let me try to chip off all the sugar here first,

    On one hand you say Israel is not and will not be in any danger by the Iranian basses in Syria, on the other you say Israel will no longer be able to act should it need to because those basses will stop it, you call it an ego thing that we no longer be number one - but our #1 enemy will be, but that's no threat to us at all.

    Yea, I think I wont listen to opinions from our haters on this one....
     
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    I'm not going to support the creation of a terror group inside Iran just so we can fight the way the EU will feel better about, Iran has Hizbullah and we have the balls to seek them out and kill them, if that drives us apart then I'm proud that it does.
     
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    I would. If it was by any other people, the post WWII world would have prevented it but the Occident's guilty feelings after the use of the Holocaust to further Israel's goal, and the unconditional support of the US made it possible. The price Israel had, has to pay for holding a whole people under lock and key for decades is to this day quite insignificant.

    You guys already control a foreign nation of more than 300 millions inhabitants without a single gun on its continent. That's no big deal.
     
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    You have absolutely no knowledge on the price Israelis pay for as long as this conflict exists and your idea they plan to take on more than 20 times the Muslims they have is as ridiculous as any other blood libel a dumb peasant invented some 1000 years ago.

    And Jew magic doesn't work on Arabs so we make war with 6 Million Arabs for 70 years planning to take over 100 Million Muslims at a moment notice, just after we destroy Europe :), is there any way to ensure the rest of the Arabs will get your education ?
     
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    And so your ppl eat crap......
     

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