Something I have been thinking about.

Now you have just described the art of 'rationalizing'.... the making of excuses for ones behavior. So when one is being rational, that person is in fact rationalizing. Why?
"ra·tion·al·ize (rsh-n-lz)v. ra·tion·al·ized, ra·tion·al·iz·ing, ra·tion·al·iz·es
v.tr.1. To make rational."

In order to "make" something rational, could infer that the something was not 'rational' to begin with. So, if a person believes something to be real or true, then why bother to 'make' it rational. To make that something to be something that it was not to begin with, would be an act of deception.

 

show spiritual proof I didn't

 

Not that I am aware of.

 

I think the analogy is a bit flawed, religion is a choice, race is not.

Maybe a better analogy would be that religious theist are like an honest salesman who is completely enamored with their product. It would be reasonable to start disliking them if they can't find something else to talk about. It would be unreasonable to expect them to never talk about it to anyone, or to form an opinion about them if they did. It would be unreasonable to expect them to never mention their product as it influences their everyday life, but it would be reasonable to expect them to refrain from trying to sell it to you after you politely explain you have no need for it.

 

I'm not sure that God and consciousness aren't the same thing. Conscience is a little different than consciousness, but consciousness comes as close to being spooky as anything else on this planet. I don't preach it, and I don't like being preached something different.

 

Yes,...
Excellent understanding here.

1 Peter 3:16
Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

Conscience is the Good Shepherd inside the Kingdom within.
Good conscience is the Jesus inside that will answer our questions and lead us down the right paths.

 

Perhaps I could suggest you become more aware then.

 

Perhaps you could learn to heed your own advice.

 

Perhaps I do

 

Then again, perhaps you don't.

 

then again, perhaps I do

 

Then again, perhaps you never did.

 

Further to your excellent post ....

I would add that if the 'honest salesman' were to impose rituals surrounding his product upon others without first ascertaining if others were comfortable with same, it would be reasonable to dislike them. If they gave books about their products to young children without the parents permission or knowledge, it would be reasonable to dislike them. If they told potentially upsetting stories to young children (relating to their product) without the parents' permission or knowledge, it would be reasonable to dislike them. If they refused to offer equal air time and tolerance for other products, or actively demonised other products, it would be reasonable to dislike them. etc etc, and etc

 

I do not mind what others believe as long as they do not use positions of power to try and force me to pretend to believe what they believe...

your analogy seems off though, you on one hand are ok with people believing whatever they want, then you compare it to schools being segregated or not, that doesn't make sense

are you saying because we do not let teachers use positions of power to proselytise to other peoples children... is the same as segregation?

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Here...do some reading.

LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron

Lepton

lepton (lĕpˈtŏn&#716 [key] [Gr., = light (i.e., lightweight)], class of elementary particles that includes the electron and its antiparticle, the muon and its antiparticle, the tau and its antiparticle, and the neutrino and antineutrino associated with each of these particles. Leptons are the lightest class of particles having nonzero rest mass. From a technical point of view, they are defined by their behavior, being weakly interacting fermions, i.e., leptons can result from the slow decay of nuclear particles such as the neutron but do not experience a strong attraction toward the nuclear particles; they are described by the Fermi-Dirac statistics, which apply to all particles restricted by the Pauli exclusion principle. This means that two identical leptons cannot occupy the same quantum state. However, one muon and one electron are allowed to occupy the same state. The muon was originally classed as a meson because of its mass, about 200 times that of the electron, but the subsequent reclassification of particles on the basis of their behavior placed it with the electron in the lepton category. The electron and the muon are almost twins, except for their large mass difference; each is negatively charged, has a positively charged antiparticle, and has an associated neutrino and antineutrino. Separate laws govern the conservation of electron family number and of muon family number, the number being +1 for ordinary particles of either family and - 1 for antiparticles (see conservation laws, in physics)



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PLEASE....do me a favor.

Every time you make an attempt to demonstrate to the membership some new KNOWLEDGE you think you have obtained and you post it and I end up reading it I GET A BAD HEADACHE!!!

Stick to stuff you understand!

AboveAlpha

 

That advice should really be taken seriously by all the non-theists when they go galloping through Scripture as if they really knew the dynamics of scripture.

 

NO ONE KNOWS the dynamics of scriptures because they have been changed so many times no one knows what they originally were.

AboveAlpha

 

And that is where science, history, most theological scholars, and others fail.... they forget the true source of such information, and then decide that they will lean on their own understanding as opposed to going straight to the most reliable source of all.... the Holy Spirit.

 

Oh....I did not know the Holy Spirit was giving out....HOW TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS REALLY IN THE GOSPELS....lessons.

AboveAlpha

 

Study and learn.

 

I stopped reading Fairy Tales a long time ago.

AboveAlpha

 

Then try reading and studying the 'Bible'.

 

I have read those Fairy Tales many times and in depth.

A person can learn greater truth from reading a Fortune Cookie.

And at least the Fortune Cookie gives out Lotto Numbers! LOL!!

AboveAlpha

 

do you have irrefutable PROOF that the 'Bible' is a set of "Fairy Tales"? The various public libraries across the country do not classify it as "Fairy Tales". Are you better qualified than the experts who do such categorizations?

Do you have absolute irrefutable proof of that claim?

Ahh.. so that is the difference you speak about... the Fortune Cookie affords you an opportunity to play the numerology game. Good luck with that one.

 

Yes.

Yes.

Ahhh...sooo!

AboveAlpha