Sri Lanka Bans Burqas and Niqabs One Week After Easter Bombings

Women in burqa can pursue a lot of activities without being identified, enabling them to steal or to plan terrorist attacks. They're a threat to other people.

I have a problem with that, for the reason mentionned above.

 

I agree men should not rules over their wives in such a way but even that is preferable to government doing it.

 

IMO, that is exactly what a government should be doing--protecting its citizens from crazy religious fanatics.

 

So everyone covering their face is a terrorist. Got it...

 

A government should first and foremost protect it's people from the government..

 

Muslims feel that covering the face via niqab constitutes religious freedom. Who are you to judge them in their religious practices? After all you are a conservative - you know, the same ones who always claim to be tolerant, unprejudiced, open minded, etc. Therefore, you have no business judging them.

 

Jews force men to wear head cover. I suppose this means you feel Jews discriminate against men.

 

This is the fundamental principle of conservatism. Funny how forum right wingers suddenly drop all such principle when it comes to Islam by proclaiming it an "enemy".

 

Im certainly not in love with the Muslim religion but they have the right to as much freedom as i do.

 

They could be a threat, so limit their rights and liberties without due process. Hm, sounds exactly like the logic of the gun grabbers.

 

I can judge anyone and so can you. It's what comes with being a free man.

Covering the face is not a part of the Islamic religion. What the contemporary Islamist leaders are trying to do with the face coverings and body bags is to separate Muslims from other cultures. They don't keep it a secret. Here's recent history in the ME, when both men and women were far more free than they are today. https://www.google.ca/search?q=musl..._PbhAhXNqp4KHWfdAScQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=552

 

There are many instances when it is illegal to disguise yourself in public. There are plenty of examples of burqas, guns, and crime.. Not a good mix. https://www.google.ca/search?q=men+...ome..69i57.12885j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

There are those who feel it's wrong to murder Gays, allow women fewer rights than men, to commit honor killings, and to kill anyone who dares leave the faith. However leftists appear to be okay with these religious customs, which is a little surprising.

Which of these aspects of islam do you most support?

 

I see a big problem with this from a civil liberties point of view, based on the principle of the thing.

However, there's a lot of pushback against muslims, problematic foreign cultures that won't assimilate, and of course the radical Islam danger, so I very much understand that side too.

It seems like yet another example of individual liberties having to be sacrificed because of problems - problems that we decided to import from other parts of the world.

However, in societies that already have few civil liberties, I see little problem with this.

 

What the hell so you mean by that? Give me an example please? And when you do, please include the answer to my question about 8 posts ago, which I'll remind you was Have you ever had a conversation with someone wearing a full-face covering?' Your 'I don't think I have' in post 37 doesn't cut it.

 

Nice bit of squirming but it's a non sequitur.

 

It's not I said, if you want to debate on imaginary answers you make yourself, go on, but you don't need me to continue.

Do you think that shop owners which want to prevent women with burqa to enter their shop have that right ? No. Because if they do so, there would be a lot of people, the heart filled with peace which would vandalize their shop.
I'm not entering the gun debate, it's not the debate, It would be irellevant considering we are from radically different cultures.

 

Like truth and justice you're entirely missing the crux. We're talking about personal conversation, not interaction in cyberspace, or at either end of a telephone line? And seeing as you're so interested, I'll posit the same question to you as I did to truth and justice - Have you ever had a conversation with someone wearing a full-face covering, and if so, did it make you feel uncomfortable?

 

People claim that covering up breaches personal liberty. Are these the same women that criticize men for wearing Speedo swimwear or the women who run round the athletics track in bra and panties. This is not attempt to derail this thread which is a discussion of civil liberties.

 

What about the feelings a innocent devout Islamic worshippers? Now I am ok with a ban on wearing it. I just don't appreciate your take that we should worry about the feelings of terrorists and not the feelings all of devout muslims.

 

No it would only help stop those that would do it again and again.

 

Depending on the questions, I can tell you if would be off putting to to have a conversation with someone in person and not being able to read their face. To me it would be like a sales call vs a call in person. I would find it disconcerting speaking to someone I don't know, without know what kind of non verbal reaction. similar to a phone interview for a job.

 

It’s the ideology of Islamic Theocracy that must be defeated, and the states that support it, feed into it, and practice it, not the clothes they wear.

 

What is the difference between those things exactly? Do you not talk on the phone or online? Does it frighten or abhor you somehow to do so? You post an awful lot for that to be the case.

1) yes, I went to the most diverse law school in the nation (also the cheapest in the state ) I've had more than one conversation with a woman wearing a face covering. Its not nearly so off putting as trying to speak to someone wearing sunglasses, though the lack of visibility of most facial microexpressions (but for the eyes) does make it hard to discern humor or sarcasm from animus, for instance.
2) uncomfortable? No. As stated some microexpressions are available, which is more than I can say for online or on the phone conversations with which I am perfectly comfortable.

 

A man knocking on my door saying that he was repairing my neighbours roof and noticed some tiles missing from my roof. A man on the street telling me about this investment scheme. A man knocking on my door and asking if I want a new driveway putting in. You are so naive if you think that all cold callers and street sellers are all telling the truth

So I will say no. Now your turn - Who are these face covered people lying to you and for what reason?