Stephen Breyer to Retire From Supreme Court After 27 Years

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  1. Get A Job

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    LGBTQ Asian next up?
     
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    Well, when you don't respond directly to a post, how are we to know what you are referring to?? Pro Tip...

    I still think R's have an uphill climb to win the Senate... Too many close open seats (PA, NC) and psychos (WI) to defend...

    If the GOP nominates Greitens in Missouri, make that 2 psychos...

    Also, McConnell is a schmuck.... a DNA test confirmed it...
     
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    Then why not shill for an Asian or an Indian? Why a black chic? Y’all don’t like Asians or something? Don’t think they deserve any representation?
     
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    Nah not if you discount all of the felons in prison whose votes don’t count. Actually 11% would be just about right.
     
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    Sheesh.

    You are literally getting your panties in a wad over a giant nothing burger topped with nada, zilch, zero.

    Admit the court has never been diverse and this has nothing to do with diversity. It's about black people

    Otherwise, you'd have been up in arms that three Catholics got appointed under Trump.
     
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    She was picked because she is beyond qualified - do you disagree on her qualifications? She was picked because Biden chose to look in a previously disregarded pool of talent - do you disagree on the fact that it was a previously ignored pool?

    And if you don't think that being a woman makes you see the world differently than a man or being Black doesn't give you a different perspective than another race, we really don't have any point at which we can reach agreement.
     
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    Welcome her to the 6-3 Trump appointed Court. They'll be in session for 20 years.
     
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    So you believe, then, that to be accurate we should have 14% of the court Black? How would we go about doing that? Are you suggesting that we look to race to fill that 14% quota?

    Black women now see a representation of themselves on the court. That isn't a bad thing. I think its a great thing. And I think it might just serve as an inspiration for many young girls who didn't see their own potential.

    I get it - you see only that Biden wanted a Black woman to fill the spot and disregarded all candidates who were male and white. I can assume, then, that you have the same anger at Reagan?

    We won't agree. And that's okay. But I thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my view - and I thank you for sharing yours with me.
     
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    I’m not the one claiming I give a damn about diversity. Y’all are.
     
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    I'm just going with the 'math' of all this 'inclusiveness/diversity' catechism that the woke-Left is so obsessed with. When it helps them make some point, they can play the mathematics of identity-politics like a piano!
     
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    Well, as a woman, I was pretty pissed off that Trump's panel for women's health was 100% white men. That you don't see an issue with that is telling.

    I'll bet you would care a lot if the panel for men's health was 100% black women.
     
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    She was picked because she was black and a woman, it was the first qualification and that is what she will be known for and constantly tagged with.

    How does being a man make me see the Constitution and the law differently from a woman? Are you saying men and women go to law school and are taught the Constitution and the law differently?

    How does the color of her skin give her a different perspective that should be applied to rulings on the Constitution and the law?

    She is qualified based on her resume, nothing particularly outstanding for some a judge or a prospect for the Supreme Court in fact she is quite the norm based on her qualifications, another reason that if you want a diverse court she should not be your choice.
     
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    Male or female? Right handed or left handed? Tall or short? Thin or obese? And on and on and on and on........
     
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    Then try again and actually give a response to what I asked

    Do you and the left have a list somewhere of all the combinations of race and sex we have to go through before we can finally saying judging people first by the race and sex no longer has to happen and we don't have to consider anymore? How long before it will be acceptable another white male can be appointed to YOU and toe the LEFT? If from now on only your and the lefts candidates win the elections how many combinations do we have to go through?
     
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    Since being Catholic or Jewish has literally zero to do, good or ill, with being a jurist, I would say those 'qualifications' are not relevant.
    Again: They're not supposed to be a representative sample of the demographic categories of the nation.

    There most certainly are not 1000 equally qualified candidates ffs. There are at most 5 candidates in the same general area IE the rarified air of top dogs when the poll is taken, of which some will be better than others.

    We don't have an issue if "ZOMG! a second black person gets on the court" and you may quote me otherwise. I have in fact stated that Judge Jackson Browns qualifications are decent. Especially considering she'll be taking Breyer's spot and you almost can't get worse from a constitutional perspective than Breyer.
    The only issue I am aware of is Biden outright stating he'll only consider a person with a certain type of demographic box checked to even be examined to make the short list.
    That means he's requiring features which have no relevance to whether or not you're the best jurist (ie race and gender) and is therefore artificially limiting the pool to poll for best quality. This doesn't mean that Judge Jackson Brown might not be the best candidate around at this moment, but it certainly increases the likelihood of picking a less qualified candidate when you choose for non-relevant characteristics.

    Well that's nice because no one offered that only catholics and jews who are white and went to harvard and yale automatically are the best jurists available. Except for you. We call that a "straw man" argument.
    Yours is.... anemic.
     
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    If we have to meet the percentage representation in the general population shouldn't you not get that second justice until you reach 22% of the population else you make some other group under represented.
     
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    So there are literally ZERO black women
    Please tell me what qualifications the constitution requires.
     
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    I did, about 700 ridiculous attempts to spam ago.... I'm certainly not going to go back and find it...

    Oh crap... I actually decided to READ how your spam has evolved over the days.... is THAT English??

    I hate getting toed....
     
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    Let’s turn it around. The last three appointed were white. How many more white Jewish and Catholic people do we need on the court?
     
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    She is one of the few with courtroom experience and the only one with experience defending someone.

    The rest, we will have to disagree upon. There will always be people who will 'tag' her as a token who didn't earn her spot. And they will never recognize any contributions of note if she makes any. I'm not one of them and, thankfully, there are others like me who celebrate her nomination.
     
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    Really? You celebrate it huh? What’s her stance on the freedom of speech? What’s her stance on the second amendment? What’s her stance on ANY ISSUE that might come before the SCOTUS.

    Here. Let me help you. You don’t know and neither does anyone else because she’s hasn’t authored enough opinions to know.

    So exactly what are you celebrating? The fact she’s black and a woman?
     
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    Which constitutional qualification is she lacking?
     
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    He could nominate Xi and you could make the same argument. Of course if Xi were black you probably would.

    But as long as we discriminate against those evil white guys (even though you know NOTHING about them or Kentaji except they have white and black skin respectively), you’re cool with it right?
     
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    No. I supported 2 of three Trump nominees. Both white.
     
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    Well here let’s try this. You liked gorsuch because he believed in following the constitution and described it as maddening that several Dems voted against him because he stated that very fact.

    Given that those EXACT SAME democrats who wouldn’t support gorsuch (because he believed in following the constitution) now support the nomination of Kentaji Brown, what makes you come to the conclusion that she supports constitutional doctrine? Especially given her lack of record on the subject.
     
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